Bilbo...

[Rantcatrat]

I think Bute's lofty ranking is an overreaction to beating Andrade too. Kessler beat Andrade easy. Bute was virtually knocked out before putting the record straight.

I don't think Andrade would beat anyone in the Super Six.

Abraham would blast him to bits. Taylor (even a near finished version) would outbox him. Dirrell and Ward would make him look like a complete lumbering slowcoach and Froch would look slick against him (Froch slick ).

Bute is without doubt a top supermiddle but his win over Andrade doesn't get him above the Super Six boys. Even though I think he could beat a few of them.

Bute beat Andrade easily too - both times. Just the first time was only for 10 rounds. The last two rounds shouldn't take away from how good Bute looked for 5/6 of the fight. Kessler couldn't knock Andrade out, Bute did. No other smw has two wins over current top ten opponents. That is why Bute enjoys a lofty rating.

Oh come on. Really? Froch would beat Andrade? Bika and Andrade over Froch. I'll change my tune if Froch beats Kessler. Seriously though, Froch and slick can't ever be in the same paragraph, let alone sentence.

[Fenster]

I think Bute's lofty ranking is an overreaction to beating Andrade too. Kessler beat Andrade easy. Bute was virtually knocked out before putting the record straight.

I don't think Andrade would beat anyone in the Super Six.

Abraham would blast him to bits. Taylor (even a near finished version) would outbox him. Dirrell and Ward would make him look like a complete lumbering slowcoach and Froch would look slick against him (Froch slick ).

Bute is without doubt a top supermiddle but his win over Andrade doesn't get him above the Super Six boys. Even though I think he could beat a few of them.

Bute beat Andrade easily too - both times. Just the first time was only for 10 rounds. The last two rounds shouldn't take away from how good Bute looked for 5/6 of the fight. Kessler couldn't knock Andrade out, Bute did. No other smw has two wins over current top ten opponents. That is why Bute enjoys a lofty rating.

Oh come on. Really? Froch would beat Andrade? Bika and Andrade over Froch. I'll change my tune if Froch beats Kessler. Seriously though, Froch and slick can't ever be in the same paragraph, let alone sentence.

Kessler beat Andrade so easily a return couldn't even be considered, yet Bute was almost knocked out so had to rematch him. Big difference.

Bute's top ten wins - Bika and Andrade.

Come on, that form is not better than Froch taking out unbeaten Pascal (current lightheavy champ), Taylor and unbeaten Dirrell.

Kessler lost to Ward but already has beaten Bute's best opponent, and has better wins than Bika on his record. Ward could be special. Kessler shouldn't be kicked behind guys with lesser form because of that loss.

So.. Ward beat THE man, Kessler and Froch have better form than Bute. At least three guys should be in front of him on the form book

[Kev]

As I said at the start of the thread I think Bute is talented and have nothing against him, he's just not number 1.

Andre Ward beat the man, he HAS to be number 1 if the Ring is going to have any credibility.

Froch must be two for wins over Pascal, Taylor and Dirrell.

I have no problem with Bute being at 3, considering the one sided nature of Kessler's loss, and Abraham has only one fight at the weight.

It's funny how Bika was considered a joke opponent for Joe Calzaghe yet he's a monster on Bute's resume.

Froch beats Bika and Andrade handily imo. He looked bad against Dirrell and Taylor, two of the fastest, slickest fighters in the game, but he certainly looked better for the most part than Andrade did against both Bute and Kessler.

Froch is a tough man, he has flaws for sure, but he's got three very impressive names on his record in back to back fights and deserves respect, and the number two spot for that.

[Rantcatrat]

I think Bute's lofty ranking is an overreaction to beating Andrade too. Kessler beat Andrade easy. Bute was virtually knocked out before putting the record straight.

I don't think Andrade would beat anyone in the Super Six.

Abraham would blast him to bits. Taylor (even a near finished version) would outbox him. Dirrell and Ward would make him look like a complete lumbering slowcoach and Froch would look slick against him (Froch slick ).

Bute is without doubt a top supermiddle but his win over Andrade doesn't get him above the Super Six boys. Even though I think he could beat a few of them.

Bute beat Andrade easily too - both times. Just the first time was only for 10 rounds. The last two rounds shouldn't take away from how good Bute looked for 5/6 of the fight. Kessler couldn't knock Andrade out, Bute did. No other smw has two wins over current top ten opponents. That is why Bute enjoys a lofty rating.

Oh come on. Really? Froch would beat Andrade? Bika and Andrade over Froch. I'll change my tune if Froch beats Kessler. Seriously though, Froch and slick can't ever be in the same paragraph, let alone sentence.

Kessler beat Andrade so easily a return couldn't even be considered, yet Bute was almost knocked out so had to rematch him. Big difference.

Bute's top ten wins - Bika and Andrade.

Come on, that form is not better than Froch taking out unbeaten Pascal (current lightheavy champ), Taylor and unbeaten Dirrell.

Kessler lost to Ward but already has beaten Bute's best opponent, and has better wins than Bika on his record. Ward could be special. Kessler shouldn't be kicked behind guys with lesser form because of that loss.

So.. Ward beat THE man, Kessler and Froch have better form than Bute. At least three guys should be in front of him on the form book

Listen, ranking Bute behind Ward and Froch makes sense, I won't deny that. But, ranking him behind Kessler makes no sense. The whole argument about Ward ranking above Bute, however, hinges on the fact that Ward beat "the man" in Kessler. My point is that Kessler may just not be "the man" we all thought him to be. And while I like Kessler a lot, a lot, we can all agree now Kessler was overrated, he has lost everytime he has stepped in the ring against opponents who can move. Kessler's biggest wins are over Andrade and Mundine. We can also agree that if Froch beats Kessler, the Kessler being "the man" argument goes out the window.

Bute's best wins are over Andrade twice and Bika, easily comparable. Bute has never lost; Kessler has lost twice. Bute looked invincible his last time out, stopping the durable, never-stopped-before Andrade (with a body shot I might add), Kessler looked horrible, a complete inability to adjust and incredibly plodding, losing practically every single round against Ward. Say what you want about his first fight with Andrade, but at least there Bute won 10 of 12 rounds.

Anyway, this will be decided soon enough because Bute will continue to win and Kessler, well, we'll just have to see...If Kessler loses to Froch and Ward beats Taylor, Froch should be ranked number 1, Bute number 2, and Ward number three. Ward beats Green, who replaces Taylor, and he should be ranked number one regardless. Kessler beats Froch, Ward beats Green, it should be Ward, Kessler, Bute, and then Froch. Sorry for the tangent. That's what too much coffee does in the morning.

Can we also all agree that Froch got a gift against Dirrell? I hated Dirrell's style that night, but Froch looked horrible in his win. It's a win, I know, but barely, just like Bute's was over Andrade the first time really, but at least Bute won 10 rounds.

[HattonTheHammer]

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[ono]

I think Bute's lofty ranking is an overreaction to beating Andrade too. Kessler beat Andrade easy. Bute was virtually knocked out before putting the record straight.

I don't think Andrade would beat anyone in the Super Six.

Abraham would blast him to bits. Taylor (even a near finished version) would outbox him. Dirrell and Ward would make him look like a complete lumbering slowcoach and Froch would look slick against him (Froch slick ).

Bute is without doubt a top supermiddle but his win over Andrade doesn't get him above the Super Six boys. Even though I think he could beat a few of them.

Bute beat Andrade easily too - both times. Just the first time was only for 10 rounds. The last two rounds shouldn't take away from how good Bute looked for 5/6 of the fight. Kessler couldn't knock Andrade out, Bute did. No other smw has two wins over current top ten opponents. That is why Bute enjoys a lofty rating.

Oh come on. Really? Froch would beat Andrade? Bika and Andrade over Froch. I'll change my tune if Froch beats Kessler. Seriously though, Froch and slick can't ever be in the same paragraph, let alone sentence.

So you rate his wins over Andrade and Bika, higher than you rate Froch's wins over Pascal, Taylor and Dirrell?

[Rantcatrat]

I think Bute's lofty ranking is an overreaction to beating Andrade too. Kessler beat Andrade easy. Bute was virtually knocked out before putting the record straight.

I don't think Andrade would beat anyone in the Super Six.

Abraham would blast him to bits. Taylor (even a near finished version) would outbox him. Dirrell and Ward would make him look like a complete lumbering slowcoach and Froch would look slick against him (Froch slick ).

Bute is without doubt a top supermiddle but his win over Andrade doesn't get him above the Super Six boys. Even though I think he could beat a few of them.

Bute beat Andrade easily too - both times. Just the first time was only for 10 rounds. The last two rounds shouldn't take away from how good Bute looked for 5/6 of the fight. Kessler couldn't knock Andrade out, Bute did. No other smw has two wins over current top ten opponents. That is why Bute enjoys a lofty rating.

Oh come on. Really? Froch would beat Andrade? Bika and Andrade over Froch. I'll change my tune if Froch beats Kessler. Seriously though, Froch and slick can't ever be in the same paragraph, let alone sentence.

So you rate his wins over Andrade and Bika, higher than you rate Froch's wins over Pascal, Taylor and Dirrell?

No, Froch has done his thing, and I admire his desire to the fight the best. He's gritty and tough. And if he wouldn't speak publicly, I would have no problem whatsoever.

[ono]

Bute beat Andrade easily too - both times. Just the first time was only for 10 rounds. The last two rounds shouldn't take away from how good Bute looked for 5/6 of the fight. Kessler couldn't knock Andrade out, Bute did. No other smw has two wins over current top ten opponents. That is why Bute enjoys a lofty rating.

Oh come on. Really? Froch would beat Andrade? Bika and Andrade over Froch. I'll change my tune if Froch beats Kessler. Seriously though, Froch and slick can't ever be in the same paragraph, let alone sentence.

So you rate his wins over Andrade and Bika, higher than you rate Froch's wins over Pascal, Taylor and Dirrell?

No, Froch has done his thing, and I admire his desire to the fight the best. He's gritty and tough. And if he wouldn't speak publicly, I would have no problem whatsoever.

Lol, speaking isn't his strong point.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I have to agree with Bil with regards to HBO/ Showtime and Golden Boy. It all seems like a load of bollocks to be honest. How the fuck is Bute number one, when a) he doesn't have a belt b) has never beaten a former champion and c) is for Canadian

Riddiculous

[ICB]

I have to agree with Bil with regards to HBO/ Showtime and Golden Boy. It all seems like a load of bollocks to be honest. How the fuck is Bute number one, when a) he doesn't have a belt b) has never beaten a former champion and c) is for Canadian

Riddiculous

He doesn't have a belt ? he won the IBF title off Alejandro Berrio, and has made 4 title defenses.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Oh yeah

Im not having a good day.