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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
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    I think Bute's lofty ranking is an overreaction to beating Andrade too. Kessler beat Andrade easy. Bute was virtually knocked out before putting the record straight.

    I don't think Andrade would beat anyone in the Super Six.

    Abraham would blast him to bits. Taylor (even a near finished version) would outbox him. Dirrell and Ward would make him look like a complete lumbering slowcoach and Froch would look slick against him (Froch slick ).

    Bute is without doubt a top supermiddle but his win over Andrade doesn't get him above the Super Six boys. Even though I think he could beat a few of them.
    Bute beat Andrade easily too - both times. Just the first time was only for 10 rounds. The last two rounds shouldn't take away from how good Bute looked for 5/6 of the fight. Kessler couldn't knock Andrade out, Bute did. No other smw has two wins over current top ten opponents. That is why Bute enjoys a lofty rating.

    Oh come on. Really? Froch would beat Andrade? Bika and Andrade over Froch. I'll change my tune if Froch beats Kessler. Seriously though, Froch and slick can't ever be in the same paragraph, let alone sentence.
    So you rate his wins over Andrade and Bika, higher than you rate Froch's wins over Pascal, Taylor and Dirrell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
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    I think Bute's lofty ranking is an overreaction to beating Andrade too. Kessler beat Andrade easy. Bute was virtually knocked out before putting the record straight.

    I don't think Andrade would beat anyone in the Super Six.

    Abraham would blast him to bits. Taylor (even a near finished version) would outbox him. Dirrell and Ward would make him look like a complete lumbering slowcoach and Froch would look slick against him (Froch slick ).

    Bute is without doubt a top supermiddle but his win over Andrade doesn't get him above the Super Six boys. Even though I think he could beat a few of them.
    Bute beat Andrade easily too - both times. Just the first time was only for 10 rounds. The last two rounds shouldn't take away from how good Bute looked for 5/6 of the fight. Kessler couldn't knock Andrade out, Bute did. No other smw has two wins over current top ten opponents. That is why Bute enjoys a lofty rating.

    Oh come on. Really? Froch would beat Andrade? Bika and Andrade over Froch. I'll change my tune if Froch beats Kessler. Seriously though, Froch and slick can't ever be in the same paragraph, let alone sentence.
    So you rate his wins over Andrade and Bika, higher than you rate Froch's wins over Pascal, Taylor and Dirrell?
    No, Froch has done his thing, and I admire his desire to the fight the best. He's gritty and tough. And if he wouldn't speak publicly, I would have no problem whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
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    Bute beat Andrade easily too - both times. Just the first time was only for 10 rounds. The last two rounds shouldn't take away from how good Bute looked for 5/6 of the fight. Kessler couldn't knock Andrade out, Bute did. No other smw has two wins over current top ten opponents. That is why Bute enjoys a lofty rating.

    Oh come on. Really? Froch would beat Andrade? Bika and Andrade over Froch. I'll change my tune if Froch beats Kessler. Seriously though, Froch and slick can't ever be in the same paragraph, let alone sentence.
    So you rate his wins over Andrade and Bika, higher than you rate Froch's wins over Pascal, Taylor and Dirrell?
    No, Froch has done his thing, and I admire his desire to the fight the best. He's gritty and tough. And if he wouldn't speak publicly, I would have no problem whatsoever.
    Lol, speaking isn't his strong point.
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    I have to agree with Bil with regards to HBO/ Showtime and Golden Boy. It all seems like a load of bollocks to be honest. How the fuck is Bute number one, when a) he doesn't have a belt b) has never beaten a former champion and c) is for Canadian

    Riddiculous
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie View Post
    I have to agree with Bil with regards to HBO/ Showtime and Golden Boy. It all seems like a load of bollocks to be honest. How the fuck is Bute number one, when a) he doesn't have a belt b) has never beaten a former champion and c) is for Canadian

    Riddiculous
    He doesn't have a belt ? he won the IBF title off Alejandro Berrio, and has made 4 title defenses.

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    Oh yeah

    Im not having a good day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie View Post
    Oh yeah

    Im not having a good day.
    It was a shitty belt though. Berrio was supposed to be an 'opponent' for Robert Steiglizt to win a vacant strap but Steiglitz chin ain't the best and he got knocked out, so Berrio picks up a suprise vacant strap, that was about as respected as the belt won by Lovemore N'dou against Ben Rabah.

    Berrio was just a Carlos Maussa, or Lovemore N'dou type boxer, nothing special decent puncher, Bute stopped him in the 11th I believe which is nothing more than any of the top 10 would have done.

    He then fought an old William Joppy and trial horse Fulgencio Zuniga in between bouts with former title challenger runner up Andrade.

    He's not beaten anybody of significance yet. Andrade and Bika are ok wins but that's it.

    It's funny Ice goes on about Bika and Kalambay being impressive wins on Bute's resume but he criticises Calzaghe for even taking those easy fights.

    Meanwhile he demands the 22 year old Amir Khan steps up and starts fighting credible opposition, with his win over Hall of Fame legend Barrera meaning nothing.

    Bute is a decent fighter, he may prove himself to be very very good, but he's not acomplished it yet. Ward and Froch have to be above him.

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