HBO doing a Super Six tournament at 140 pounds?

[paddy448]

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Anybody know anything about this?

IMO should be...

Bradley
Maidana
Khan
Malignaggi/J. Diaz II winner
Holt
Alexander

Uranga deserves a place in there.

urango definately deserves a shout, especially as he has already been a title holder at 140. great news tho all the while. these super six tournaments are the best thing too happen too boxing for a while.the best fighting the best thats what it should be all about

[TheBranMan]

IMO should be...

Bradley
Maidana
Khan
Malignaggi/J. Diaz II winner
Holt
Alexander

Urango deserves a place in there.

urango definately deserves a shout, especially as he has already been a title holder at 140. great news tho all the while. these super six tournaments are the best thing too happen too boxing for a while.the best fighting the best thats what it should be all about

I agree. This would be great for boxing. The best vs the best. I'm just not sure Warren would think Khan is "ready" to be thrown into the mix with dangerous fighters like this. The chances that he'd win the thing aren't great and could do serious damage to his supposed 'mega-star' future.

I also agree Urango deserves a spot. I don't know who's place I'd give up though. Alexander is a bit greener than some of the others, but he'd easily be one of my favorites to win the entire thing. Ah well, the tournament hasn't even been announced yet, hopefully it'll come together.

[paddy448]

Urango deserves a place in there.

urango definately deserves a shout, especially as he has already been a title holder at 140. great news tho all the while. these super six tournaments are the best thing too happen too boxing for a while.the best fighting the best thats what it should be all about

I agree. This would be great for boxing. The best vs the best. I'm just not sure Warren would think Khan is "ready" to be thrown into the mix with dangerous fighters like this. The chances that he'd win the thing aren't great and could do serious damage to his supposed 'mega-star' future.

I also agree Urango deserves a spot. I don't know who's place I'd give up though. Alexander is a bit greener than some of the others, but he'd easily be one of my favorites to win the entire thing. Ah well, the tournament hasn't even been announced yet, hopefully it'll come together.

agree with u mate. would have bradley the favorite out of the lot too be honest. i really rate him. if this shit came off i do give khan a good chance. especially with roach in his corner. roach is more of a promoter than warren too khan at the minute. at least he knows what kind of competion he knows what khan is capable of. if roach says khan can win the tornament then i believe he can win it. thats how much i rate roach

[Kev]

I would really hope Urango wasn't in there. To me he's just one of those mediocre beltholders that sum up what is wrong with boxing, i.e far too many 'champs'.

We'd have to wait until this Saturday night to know to include for sure.

Obviously if Peterson (can't remember which one, just hope its not the pop pop pop one) beats Tim Bradley then he'd have to be in. You'd also have to have Bradley in as well to try and regain what he lost.

Then there are a bunch of guys I'd rather have in the tournament than Urango.

You want the tournament to be fun and sell well, Urango is just a former beltholder with no star appeal at all. It would be like having Berrio or Dennis Inkin in the super six at super middle, no thanks! I'd much rather they put Zab Judah in as a wild card, or an old fighter like Campbell for one last chance.

Presuming Bradley wins tomorrow my list would be,

Bradley
Khan
Alexander
Malignaggi (if he beats Diaz, Diaz would be shit at 140) if he loses bring in Zab
Ortiz
Maidana

Nobody can tell me that Victor Ortiz isn't ten times more exciting than Juan Urango and has more potential in the sport. This should be a showcase for the best and the brightest talent, Urango is ok but I wouldn't pay to watch him and he less potential than everyone above. Zab may be done, he may not, but I'd like to see him at 140 again and this would be interestin

[ElTerribleMorales]

I would really hope Urango wasn't in there. To me he's just one of those mediocre beltholders that sum up what is wrong with boxing, i.e far too many 'champs'.

We'd have to wait until this Saturday night to know to include for sure.

Obviously if Peterson (can't remember which one, just hope its not the pop pop pop one) beats Tim Bradley then he'd have to be in. You'd also have to have Bradley in as well to try and regain what he lost.

Then there are a bunch of guys I'd rather have in the tournament than Urango.

You want the tournament to be fun and sell well, Urango is just a former beltholder with no star appeal at all. It would be like having Berrio or Dennis Inkin in the super six at super middle, no thanks! I'd much rather they put Zab Judah in as a wild card, or an old fighter like Campbell for one last chance.

Presuming Bradley wins tomorrow my list would be,

Bradley
Khan
Alexander
Malignaggi (if he beats Diaz, Diaz would be shit at 140) if he loses bring in Zab
Ortiz
Maidana

Nobody can tell me that Victor Ortiz isn't ten times more exciting than Juan Urango and has more potential in the sport. This should be a showcase for the best and the brightest talent, Urango is ok but I wouldn't pay to watch him and he less potential than everyone above. Zab may be done, he may not, but I'd like to see him at 140 again and this would be interestin

i didn't say Ortiz cause IMO he's not ready, i really feel this kid can be something special, but they're going to have to take their time in bringing him up, if the tourney was in a couple years then yea i'd include him but as is right now, i don't think i'd put him there

[Kev]

I would really hope Urango wasn't in there. To me he's just one of those mediocre beltholders that sum up what is wrong with boxing, i.e far too many 'champs'.

We'd have to wait until this Saturday night to know to include for sure.

Obviously if Peterson (can't remember which one, just hope its not the pop pop pop one) beats Tim Bradley then he'd have to be in. You'd also have to have Bradley in as well to try and regain what he lost.

Then there are a bunch of guys I'd rather have in the tournament than Urango.

You want the tournament to be fun and sell well, Urango is just a former beltholder with no star appeal at all. It would be like having Berrio or Dennis Inkin in the super six at super middle, no thanks! I'd much rather they put Zab Judah in as a wild card, or an old fighter like Campbell for one last chance.

Presuming Bradley wins tomorrow my list would be,

Bradley
Khan
Alexander
Malignaggi (if he beats Diaz, Diaz would be shit at 140) if he loses bring in Zab
Ortiz
Maidana

Nobody can tell me that Victor Ortiz isn't ten times more exciting than Juan Urango and has more potential in the sport. This should be a showcase for the best and the brightest talent, Urango is ok but I wouldn't pay to watch him and he less potential than everyone above. Zab may be done, he may not, but I'd like to see him at 140 again and this would be interestin

i didn't say Ortiz cause IMO he's not ready, i really feel this kid can be something special, but they're going to have to take their time in bringing him up, if the tourney was in a couple years then yea i'd include him but as is right now, i don't think i'd put him there

Yeah you may be right. He brings much more to the tournament than Urango though. We know exactly how good Urango is and it's just below A grade. He's the best of the B level fighters if you will, he can beat the Ngoudjo's and the Baileys of this world but not the Hattons and Berto's. I just see no point in putting him in.

Remember this tournament isn't a meritocracy its about who the public want to see and what will sell. Urango just doesn't sell.

The best thing about the current Super Six is that when it was called you just had no idea who would win. Obviously after the first round things have clarified a little but really going in people could make a case for any of the six winning the whole thing.

Urango is the junior welter equivilant of Andrade or Bika, tough, good enough to get a title shot, but not good enough to beat the best in a weight class, therefore a waste of an entry.

Bradely, Khan and Alexander would be definite picks.

Then Paulie would have to be in if he beats Diaz.

Then the last two shots, I'd rather see Maidana and Ortiz have a go, two hungry young fighters, than I would waste a pick with Urango.

I'd rather have Zab Judah in as the wild card (echoing Taylor maybe) than Urango, he gives the tournament a big name, a former undisputed champ, and an uncertainty about how he would do.

In such an event again you could make a case for any of those fighters being able to win the whole thing, but Urango, I don't know, he just doesn't sell the event for me...

[ElTerribleMorales]

I would really hope Urango wasn't in there. To me he's just one of those mediocre beltholders that sum up what is wrong with boxing, i.e far too many 'champs'.

We'd have to wait until this Saturday night to know to include for sure.

Obviously if Peterson (can't remember which one, just hope its not the pop pop pop one) beats Tim Bradley then he'd have to be in. You'd also have to have Bradley in as well to try and regain what he lost.

Then there are a bunch of guys I'd rather have in the tournament than Urango.

You want the tournament to be fun and sell well, Urango is just a former beltholder with no star appeal at all. It would be like having Berrio or Dennis Inkin in the super six at super middle, no thanks! I'd much rather they put Zab Judah in as a wild card, or an old fighter like Campbell for one last chance.

Presuming Bradley wins tomorrow my list would be,

Bradley
Khan
Alexander
Malignaggi (if he beats Diaz, Diaz would be shit at 140) if he loses bring in Zab
Ortiz
Maidana

Nobody can tell me that Victor Ortiz isn't ten times more exciting than Juan Urango and has more potential in the sport. This should be a showcase for the best and the brightest talent, Urango is ok but I wouldn't pay to watch him and he less potential than everyone above. Zab may be done, he may not, but I'd like to see him at 140 again and this would be interestin

i didn't say Ortiz cause IMO he's not ready, i really feel this kid can be something special, but they're going to have to take their time in bringing him up, if the tourney was in a couple years then yea i'd include him but as is right now, i don't think i'd put him there

Yeah you may be right. He brings much more to the tournament than Urango though. We know exactly how good Urango is and it's just below A grade. He's the best of the B level fighters if you will, he can beat the Ngoudjo's and the Baileys of this world but not the Hattons and Berto's. I just see no point in putting him in.

Remember this tournament isn't a meritocracy its about who the public want to see and what will sell. Urango just doesn't sell.

The best thing about the current Super Six is that when it was called you just had no idea who would win. Obviously after the first round things have clarified a little but really going in people could make a case for any of the six winning the whole thing.

Urango is the junior welter equivilant of Andrade or Bika, tough, good enough to get a title shot, but not good enough to beat the best in a weight class, therefore a waste of an entry.

Bradely, Khan and Alexander would be definite picks.

Then Paulie would have to be in if he beats Diaz.

Then the last two shots, I'd rather see Maidana and Ortiz have a go, two hungry young fighters, than I would waste a pick with Urango.

I'd rather have Zab Judah in as the wild card (echoing Taylor maybe) than Urango, he gives the tournament a big name, a former undisputed champ, and an uncertainty about how he would do.

In such an event again you could make a case for any of those fighters being able to win the whole thing, but Urango, I don't know, he just doesn't sell the event for me...

i get where you're coming from, but i think Holt would deserve a spot more than Judah, and it'd basically make the whole tourney a toss up, meaning any fighter can beat each other on their best night