Haye to be trained by Roach?

[ElTerribleMorales]

Roach is a great coach and trainer who understands a fighters strengths and weaknesses, then builds a game plan and training camp around that. As good or better then anyone currently. Would be a good move for Haye, but yea, can't see it either until PAC/PBF. People can hate on him for things he says and maybe have a point, but anyone who questions his abilities to train fighters is justa hater.

IMO is ONE of the best, but it's a bit overdoing it to say he's clear cut #1, when there are guys just as good or better than him (Richardson, Steward, Goosen. etc.)

[Youngblood]

Roach is a great coach and trainer who understands a fighters strengths and weaknesses, then builds a game plan and training camp around that. As good or better then anyone currently. Would be a good move for Haye, but yea, can't see it either until PAC/PBF. People can hate on him for things he says and maybe have a point, but anyone who questions his abilities to train fighters is justa hater.

IMO is ONE of the best, but it's a bit overdoing it to say he's clear cut #1, when there are guys just as good or better than him (Richardson, Steward, Goosen. etc.)

Did you even read the post? lol

[Conrad]

It's a nice idea but the timing is way off, pretty admirable of Booth though if true as it can't be easy acknowledging that you're not good enouh.

But with the rumours of Khan being on the Pac Vs PBF undercard as well I ust cannot see it being possible if Haye is fighting in the Spring. I had my concerns with Roach training two fighters let alone three.

[AdamGB]

It's a nice idea but the timing is way off, pretty admirable of Booth though if true as it can't be easy acknowledging that you're not good enouh.

But with the rumours of Khan being on the Pac Vs PBF undercard as well I ust cannot see it being possible if Haye is fighting in the Spring. I had my concerns with Roach training two fighters let alone three.

Booth has always been really switched on as a manager etc. In terms of conditioning he really knows his stuff but watching him in the corner against Valuev you could see he was limited in that aspect... good to see he's doing the right thing.

Always thought that the bloke had his head screwed on and the fact he's looking for somebody past his level shows it.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Roach is a great coach and trainer who understands a fighters strengths and weaknesses, then builds a game plan and training camp around that. As good or better then anyone currently. Would be a good move for Haye, but yea, can't see it either until PAC/PBF. People can hate on him for things he says and maybe have a point, but anyone who questions his abilities to train fighters is justa hater.

IMO is ONE of the best, but it's a bit overdoing it to say he's clear cut #1, when there are guys just as good or better than him (Richardson, Steward, Goosen. etc.)

Did you even read the post? lol

i was agreeing with you bro lol, i was just also stating that there are a couple people around that think that just cause a guy has Roach in his corner he's gonna be unstoppable (mainly the Pac fans lol)

[Youngblood]

IMO is ONE of the best, but it's a bit overdoing it to say he's clear cut #1, when there are guys just as good or better than him (Richardson, Steward, Goosen. etc.)

Did you even read the post? lol

i was agreeing with you bro lol, i was just also stating that there are a couple people around that think that just cause a guy has Roach in his corner he's gonna be unstoppable (mainly the Pac fans lol)

k man guess I read it out of it's intent, my bad. sorry.

Both him and Richardson I think have a keen eye for developing fighters for specific opponents. It isn't going to work every time, ofc, but they do put a good game plan together based on what that fighter brings to the tbl. Even in the short time we saw Khan fight against MAB you could tell that was the work of Roach, working with what he had. You got a guy with great speed and mobility who is kinda chinny, you keep him outside and use range and work angles. Still not sure what woulda happened down the stretch there...

Richardson gets high marks from me as well for busting Margo's cheating ass, by looking at every detail and refusing to just accept "They are ok" because they were signed off. This isn't the first time he did it, so yea, high marks for that alone. Helping fix boxing as a sport, by shining a light on it's ugly side and exposing it.

[El Kabong]

Roach could help out a couple heavyweights, but I think he's got a full plate with: Pac, Kahn, and Rigondeaux those guys are at or near top class and they will deserve full attention from Roach, the HEAD trainer. If Roach is brought in as an assistant (which I doubt he would do) he may be able to provide SOME help.

Adam Booth is no different than Joe Santiago

[ElTerribleMorales]

Did you even read the post? lol

i was agreeing with you bro lol, i was just also stating that there are a couple people around that think that just cause a guy has Roach in his corner he's gonna be unstoppable (mainly the Pac fans lol)

k man guess I read it out of it's intent, my bad. sorry.

Both him and Richardson I think have a keen eye for developing fighters for specific opponents. It isn't going to work every time, ofc, but they do put a good game plan together based on what that fighter brings to the tbl. Even in the short time we saw Khan fight against MAB you could tell that was the work of Roach, working with what he had. You got a guy with great speed and mobility who is kinda chinny, you keep him outside and use range and work angles. Still not sure what woulda happened down the stretch there...

Richardson gets high marks from me as well for busting Margo's cheating ass, by looking at every detail and refusing to just accept "They are ok" because they were signed off. This isn't the first time he did it, so yea, high marks for that alone. Helping fix boxing as a sport, by shining a light on it's ugly side and exposing it.

agree, i think the main reason that Richardson and Roach have so much success is because they don't really try to change a fighters style, they take what they have and alter small things to make the most of what they have to offer, look at Manny he's still an aggressive come forward type fighter, thing is he paces himself now, isn't as careless and sharpened his offense making him less vulnerable, Shane still looked like Shane when he took apart Margarito same as Hopkins did against Pavlik, that's why they have more success with a wider variety of styles and types of fighters than lets say Mayweather Sr and Steward

[El Kabong]

Well the thing about Steward is that he gets fighters to use their natural physical advantages.


It's amazing to me that Ronnie Sheilds and Tommy Brooks don't have any heavyweights to speak of, they are good trainers...not great but good, experienced, and they could really help someone just starting out or someone who has reached contender status.

[Kev]

Do you guys remember when Dan Birmingham was the hottest trainer around, I think he even won a trainer of the year award in the run up to the Lacy Calzaghe fight.

Havn't heard shit from him since, is he still even training fighters?

[The Congressman]

Roach is one busy mofo. I don't blame him. His parkinsons is not going away - it will get worst medically speaking, and he's not getting any younger.

[DaxxKahn]

Interesting on how this would play out...Would Haye fully commit to whatever Roach says and follow him or would he try to run things his way and cause Freddie aggravation? Roach has enough guys to occupy his time and would end up dis-banning the relationship if it happens....

I am not sure how Haye is outside the ring with his camp to make a real prediction...

If it did work out though it would be a great move for Haye.....I still don't seem him beating Vitali but still a good move for him

[Nameless]

Roach is a great coach and trainer who understands a fighters strengths and weaknesses, then builds a game plan and training camp around that. As good or better then anyone currently. Would be a good move for Haye, but yea, can't see it either until PAC/PBF. People can hate on him for things he says and maybe have a point, but anyone who questions his abilities to train fighters is justa hater.

IMO is ONE of the best, but it's a bit overdoing it to say he's clear cut #1, when there are guys just as good or better than him (Richardson, Steward, Goosen. etc.)

Steward is a legend though I feel like he lost a bit of grip lately with his stable in general, perhaps just bad moment though. Richardson is a very good pick so would be Ronnie Shield, Fritz Sdunek or Uli Wenger. I don't think Goosen is that extraordinary though, good for sure but I don't see him as one of the very best in the business.

[ICB]

Roach is a great coach and trainer who understands a fighters strengths and weaknesses, then builds a game plan and training camp around that. As good or better then anyone currently. Would be a good move for Haye, but yea, can't see it either until PAC/PBF. People can hate on him for things he says and maybe have a point, but anyone who questions his abilities to train fighters is justa hater.

IMO is ONE of the best, but it's a bit overdoing it to say he's clear cut #1, when there are guys just as good or better than him (Richardson, Steward, Goosen. etc.)

I always liked Goosen as a trainer, i like his calm manner in the corner. He always gives good advice and sounds like a pretty smart guy, who know his boxing very well.

[El Kabong]

Dan Birmingham is a quality trainer and there are tons of quality trainers out there that don't have quality fighters...I wonder if Kevin Rooney will ever rebound the biggest fighter he has had since Tyson is Pazienza and the best heavyweight he's had hasn't been all that great and more recently Leonard Pierre Anasta was a bust as well.

I think Mark Breland (trainer of Deontay Wilder) has the potential to be a very talented trainer.

I always liked Goosen as a trainer, i like his calm manner in the corner. He always gives good advice and sounds like a pretty smart guy, who know his boxing very well.

He also wears those snappy Tommy Bahama shirts