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An oft used excuse by his fans, but hardly provable. I was basing my point on the way Jones actually fought in the ring. Sure the weight loss had an effect, but there was obviously something else going on. The Jones that fought Johnson, and after that, was not the same fighter as the one that fought Tarver I & 2, not even close. But if you wanna say otherwise, go ahead.

the move down from HW did effect him in a big way, and then perhaps once he was ko'd once it made him more hesitant and cautious... he lost his aura of 'invincibility'
I can live with that more or less. But in the 2nd fight I thought he looked reasonably sharp. He should have had time to get back much of what he lost, Maybe not the same Roy as before the trip to HW, but still not too bad. The point being that he still had a long way to fall, in terms of performance, which is what the thread is about.

you mean in the 2nd fight prioer to be knocked out ....., as has been seen before knock out like that will take something from a fighter, this the case with roy, the issue with the weight imo led to him being ko'd by tarver and it was a downward spiral from there on