Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy...

[cnote111]

I said implement it in title fights because that is the logical starting place, it would be great if it was required sport wide, but who it in charge of that responsibility? There is not a unified international commission. Titles are governed by specific bodies (IBF, WBO, WBA and WBC) whereas a majority of fights do not fall under the sanctioning body umbrella.

I agree with all of that... Good stuff, but isn't there still a standard on drug testing throughout professional boxing.. Shouldn't it be the same no matter what... And if it needs to be severely increased, shouldn't it be across the board...

@Miles, i will agree with your reply...

@ElTerrible - Weight is not the issue of this argument/discussion.. I don't feel like having a side bar... I do understand your distaste for catchweights, but if both parties agree then it is a moot point...

[cnote111]

at this stage of the game Pac is Innocent - To say otherwise is silly...

I will be devastated if PAC happens to turn up positive...

[hitmanhatton]

at this stage of the game Pac is Innocent - To say otherwise is silly...

I will be devastated if PAC happens to turn up positive...

he never will dont worry, you know why ?

because he will never agree to take the test

[killersheep]

at this stage of the game Pac is Innocent - To say otherwise is silly...

I will be devastated if PAC happens to turn up positive...

I agree, I personally don't believe Pacquiao would use illegal substances. Which is why I have a hard time seeing a good reason for him to not take the tests. Hell I'd overcome a little fatigue and a drug screen for what will probably be a 40 million dollar pay day, who wouldn't?

[hitmanhatton]

at this stage of the game Pac is Innocent - To say otherwise is silly...

I will be devastated if PAC happens to turn up positive...

I agree, I personally don't believe Pacquiao would use illegal substances. Which is why I have a hard time seeing a good reason for him to not take the tests. Hell I'd overcome a little fatigue and a drug screen for what will probably be a 40 million dollar pay day, who wouldn't?

why? i very much doubt pacquiao works out all his own nutrition, what to eat and what time along with any supplements he uses, after all he isnt the one with the degrees in sports biology or whatever ...

[rickyhatton1975]

This whole thread is moot since Pacquaio has not officially spoken on the subject. It's all heresay from the Mayweather camp.

[killersheep]

at this stage of the game Pac is Innocent - To say otherwise is silly...

I will be devastated if PAC happens to turn up positive...

I agree, I personally don't believe Pacquiao would use illegal substances. Which is why I have a hard time seeing a good reason for him to not take the tests. Hell I'd overcome a little fatigue and a drug screen for what will probably be a 40 million dollar pay day, who wouldn't?

why? i very much doubt pacquiao works out all his own nutrition, what to eat and what time along with any supplements he uses, after all he isnt the one with the degrees in sports biology or whatever ...

There has been no substantial evidence to prove he has used illegal substances. I DO want him to take the test.

[Majesty]

Mayweather would be going through the same test. So Freddie Roach's excuse for how it may effect Manny, it could effect Mayweather in the same way, its the same chance of it happening. Why should Manny say no to it? Mayweather's agreed to everything else and Manny can't agree to this?

[ElTerribleMorales]

I said implement it in title fights because that is the logical starting place, it would be great if it was required sport wide, but who it in charge of that responsibility? There is not a unified international commission. Titles are governed by specific bodies (IBF, WBO, WBA and WBC) whereas a majority of fights do not fall under the sanctioning body umbrella.

I agree with all of that... Good stuff, but isn't there still a standard on drug testing throughout professional boxing.. Shouldn't it be the same no matter what... And if it needs to be severely increased, shouldn't it be across the board...

@Miles, i will agree with your reply...

@ElTerrible - Weight is not the issue of this argument/discussion.. I don't feel like having a side bar... I do understand your distaste for catchweights, but if both parties agree then it is a moot point...

my point is why bitch about "what gives Floyd the right for blah blah blah", yet not complain a bit when Manny himself tries to dictate what a fighters penalty should be if he doesn't comply to the commissions rules when it comes to making weight

[Majesty]

I said implement it in title fights because that is the logical starting place, it would be great if it was required sport wide, but who it in charge of that responsibility? There is not a unified international commission. Titles are governed by specific bodies (IBF, WBO, WBA and WBC) whereas a majority of fights do not fall under the sanctioning body umbrella.

I agree with all of that... Good stuff, but isn't there still a standard on drug testing throughout professional boxing.. Shouldn't it be the same no matter what... And if it needs to be severely increased, shouldn't it be across the board...

@Miles, i will agree with your reply...

@ElTerrible - Weight is not the issue of this argument/discussion.. I don't feel like having a side bar... I do understand your distaste for catchweights, but if both parties agree then it is a moot point...

my point is why bitch about "what gives Floyd the right for blah blah blah", yet not complain a bit when Manny himself tries to dictate what a fighters penalty should be if he doesn't comply to the commissions rules when it comes to making weight

Because people double standard for a fighter they like and diss another fighter for the same reasons they defend another one for.

[cnote111]

@ElTerrible - A penalty for coming in over weight is to prevent Floyd using his weight to create an advantage over the smaller fighter which he just did last September...

The Roid issue is completely made up!


@Majesty - I have no double standard on my issues...But I will not compare apple and oranges... Would Mayweather come up with a penalty at PAC for coming in overweight?? No... Because Pac does not create advantages using his weight AFTER the weight is agreed upon... PBF will agree to a weight and then come in heavy...

The ROID issue is completely made up and has not basis of being even used against PAC.

@Killer - I really like your breakdown of the unrealistic terms of overall drug screening; however, my point is that Mayweather has no bearing on being the guy that starts this new drug screening process. This should be reviewed and drummed up by the sanctioning bodies... Not a fighters pre-fight stipulation without any evidence to even accuse PAC in the first place...

[Mar]

If floyd denied any of pac's requests, no matter how silly or how small. This would be a whole different issue. But since it's manny..........retarded.

[hitmanhatton]

If floyd denied any of pac's requests, no matter how silly or how small. This would be a whole different issue. But since it's manny..........retarded.

refusing to have particular gloves, or a purse split is alot different to prove your a clean honest fighter.... most would jump at the chance to prove everyone wrong and then fuck floyd up after anyway ... why is manny refusing this oppurtunity

[Majesty]

@ElTerrible - A penalty for coming in over weight is to prevent Floyd using his weight to create an advantage over the smaller fighter which he just did last September...

The Roid issue is completely made up!


@Majesty - I have no double standard on my issues...But I will not compare apple and oranges... Would Mayweather come up with a penalty at PAC for coming in overweight?? No... Because Pac does not create advantages using his weight AFTER the weight is agreed upon... PBF will agree to a weight and then come in heavy...

The ROID issue is completely made up and has not basis of being even used against PAC.

@Killer - I really like your breakdown of the unrealistic terms of overall drug screening; however, my point is that Mayweather has no bearing on being the guy that starts this new drug screening process. This should be reviewed and drummed up by the sanctioning bodies... Not a fighters pre-fight stipulation without any evidence to even accuse PAC in the first place...

If its so made up why does Manny refuse to prove it? His fans seem to have more faith in him on this then he does

[hitmanhatton]

@ElTerrible - A penalty for coming in over weight is to prevent Floyd using his weight to create an advantage over the smaller fighter which he just did last September...

The Roid issue is completely made up!


@Majesty - I have no double standard on my issues...But I will not compare apple and oranges... Would Mayweather come up with a penalty at PAC for coming in overweight?? No... Because Pac does not create advantages using his weight AFTER the weight is agreed upon... PBF will agree to a weight and then come in heavy...

The ROID issue is completely made up and has not basis of being even used against PAC.

@Killer - I really like your breakdown of the unrealistic terms of overall drug screening; however, my point is that Mayweather has no bearing on being the guy that starts this new drug screening process. This should be reviewed and drummed up by the sanctioning bodies... Not a fighters pre-fight stipulation without any evidence to even accuse PAC in the first place...

and a test is there to stop pac possibly using ped's to gain an advantage same thing