Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy...

[ElTerribleMorales]

I said implement it in title fights because that is the logical starting place, it would be great if it was required sport wide, but who it in charge of that responsibility? There is not a unified international commission. Titles are governed by specific bodies (IBF, WBO, WBA and WBC) whereas a majority of fights do not fall under the sanctioning body umbrella.

I agree with all of that... Good stuff, but isn't there still a standard on drug testing throughout professional boxing.. Shouldn't it be the same no matter what... And if it needs to be severely increased, shouldn't it be across the board...

@Miles, i will agree with your reply...

@ElTerrible - Weight is not the issue of this argument/discussion.. I don't feel like having a side bar... I do understand your distaste for catchweights, but if both parties agree then it is a moot point...

my point is why bitch about "what gives Floyd the right for blah blah blah", yet not complain a bit when Manny himself tries to dictate what a fighters penalty should be if he doesn't comply to the commissions rules when it comes to making weight

[Majesty]

I said implement it in title fights because that is the logical starting place, it would be great if it was required sport wide, but who it in charge of that responsibility? There is not a unified international commission. Titles are governed by specific bodies (IBF, WBO, WBA and WBC) whereas a majority of fights do not fall under the sanctioning body umbrella.

I agree with all of that... Good stuff, but isn't there still a standard on drug testing throughout professional boxing.. Shouldn't it be the same no matter what... And if it needs to be severely increased, shouldn't it be across the board...

@Miles, i will agree with your reply...

@ElTerrible - Weight is not the issue of this argument/discussion.. I don't feel like having a side bar... I do understand your distaste for catchweights, but if both parties agree then it is a moot point...

my point is why bitch about "what gives Floyd the right for blah blah blah", yet not complain a bit when Manny himself tries to dictate what a fighters penalty should be if he doesn't comply to the commissions rules when it comes to making weight

Because people double standard for a fighter they like and diss another fighter for the same reasons they defend another one for.

[cnote111]

@ElTerrible - A penalty for coming in over weight is to prevent Floyd using his weight to create an advantage over the smaller fighter which he just did last September...

The Roid issue is completely made up!


@Majesty - I have no double standard on my issues...But I will not compare apple and oranges... Would Mayweather come up with a penalty at PAC for coming in overweight?? No... Because Pac does not create advantages using his weight AFTER the weight is agreed upon... PBF will agree to a weight and then come in heavy...

The ROID issue is completely made up and has not basis of being even used against PAC.

@Killer - I really like your breakdown of the unrealistic terms of overall drug screening; however, my point is that Mayweather has no bearing on being the guy that starts this new drug screening process. This should be reviewed and drummed up by the sanctioning bodies... Not a fighters pre-fight stipulation without any evidence to even accuse PAC in the first place...

[Mar]

If floyd denied any of pac's requests, no matter how silly or how small. This would be a whole different issue. But since it's manny..........retarded.

[hitmanhatton]

If floyd denied any of pac's requests, no matter how silly or how small. This would be a whole different issue. But since it's manny..........retarded.

refusing to have particular gloves, or a purse split is alot different to prove your a clean honest fighter.... most would jump at the chance to prove everyone wrong and then fuck floyd up after anyway ... why is manny refusing this oppurtunity

[Majesty]

@ElTerrible - A penalty for coming in over weight is to prevent Floyd using his weight to create an advantage over the smaller fighter which he just did last September...

The Roid issue is completely made up!


@Majesty - I have no double standard on my issues...But I will not compare apple and oranges... Would Mayweather come up with a penalty at PAC for coming in overweight?? No... Because Pac does not create advantages using his weight AFTER the weight is agreed upon... PBF will agree to a weight and then come in heavy...

The ROID issue is completely made up and has not basis of being even used against PAC.

@Killer - I really like your breakdown of the unrealistic terms of overall drug screening; however, my point is that Mayweather has no bearing on being the guy that starts this new drug screening process. This should be reviewed and drummed up by the sanctioning bodies... Not a fighters pre-fight stipulation without any evidence to even accuse PAC in the first place...

If its so made up why does Manny refuse to prove it? His fans seem to have more faith in him on this then he does

[hitmanhatton]

@ElTerrible - A penalty for coming in over weight is to prevent Floyd using his weight to create an advantage over the smaller fighter which he just did last September...

The Roid issue is completely made up!


@Majesty - I have no double standard on my issues...But I will not compare apple and oranges... Would Mayweather come up with a penalty at PAC for coming in overweight?? No... Because Pac does not create advantages using his weight AFTER the weight is agreed upon... PBF will agree to a weight and then come in heavy...

The ROID issue is completely made up and has not basis of being even used against PAC.

@Killer - I really like your breakdown of the unrealistic terms of overall drug screening; however, my point is that Mayweather has no bearing on being the guy that starts this new drug screening process. This should be reviewed and drummed up by the sanctioning bodies... Not a fighters pre-fight stipulation without any evidence to even accuse PAC in the first place...

and a test is there to stop pac possibly using ped's to gain an advantage same thing

[cnote111]

@ElTerrible - A penalty for coming in over weight is to prevent Floyd using his weight to create an advantage over the smaller fighter which he just did last September...

The Roid issue is completely made up!


@Majesty - I have no double standard on my issues...But I will not compare apple and oranges... Would Mayweather come up with a penalty at PAC for coming in overweight?? No... Because Pac does not create advantages using his weight AFTER the weight is agreed upon... PBF will agree to a weight and then come in heavy...

The ROID issue is completely made up and has not basis of being even used against PAC.

@Killer - I really like your breakdown of the unrealistic terms of overall drug screening; however, my point is that Mayweather has no bearing on being the guy that starts this new drug screening process. This should be reviewed and drummed up by the sanctioning bodies... Not a fighters pre-fight stipulation without any evidence to even accuse PAC in the first place...

and a test is there to stop pac possibly using ped's to gain an advantage same thing

On what grounds!!

"Possibly" indicates a reasonable doubt that he is clean..There is no reasonable doubt.. Sorry he dominated his opponents his last four fights... He must be cheating!!

[hitmanhatton]

@ElTerrible - A penalty for coming in over weight is to prevent Floyd using his weight to create an advantage over the smaller fighter which he just did last September...

The Roid issue is completely made up!


@Majesty - I have no double standard on my issues...But I will not compare apple and oranges... Would Mayweather come up with a penalty at PAC for coming in overweight?? No... Because Pac does not create advantages using his weight AFTER the weight is agreed upon... PBF will agree to a weight and then come in heavy...

The ROID issue is completely made up and has not basis of being even used against PAC.

@Killer - I really like your breakdown of the unrealistic terms of overall drug screening; however, my point is that Mayweather has no bearing on being the guy that starts this new drug screening process. This should be reviewed and drummed up by the sanctioning bodies... Not a fighters pre-fight stipulation without any evidence to even accuse PAC in the first place...

and a test is there to stop pac possibly using ped's to gain an advantage same thing

On what grounds!!

"Possibly" indicates a reasonable doubt that he is clean..There is no reasonable doubt.. Sorry he dominated his opponents his last four fights... He must be cheating!!

so he goes from being hurt by the likes of marquez, but can take cottos shots easilly, his carried both speed and power up, his power seems to have improved ten fold

never happened before, most things would point to this being physically impossible

and anyway fighters should be tested like in any other sport

[cnote111]

and a test is there to stop pac possibly using ped's to gain an advantage same thing

On what grounds!!

"Possibly" indicates a reasonable doubt that he is clean..There is no reasonable doubt.. Sorry he dominated his opponents his last four fights... He must be cheating!!

so he goes from being hurt by the likes of marquez, but can take cottos shots easilly, his carried both speed and power up, his power seems to have improved ten fold

never happened before, most things would point to this being physically impossible

and anyway fighters should be tested like in any other sport

1. Did feel Cottos punches and had a buster ear drum, and JMM never hurt Pac are you crazy..> Pac hasn't been buckled or wobbled in a very long time...

Boxers are tested like in other sports, just not like the Olympics... Which the Olympic style testing is for ALL THE OLYMPIANS!!! not just the big events... Thats my point!

Floyd wants a brand new testing system implimented in this one fight... But yet it is not done nor has ever been done before...

[bzkfn]

@ElTerrible - A penalty for coming in over weight is to prevent Floyd using his weight to create an advantage over the smaller fighter which he just did last September...

The Roid issue is completely made up!


@Majesty - I have no double standard on my issues...But I will not compare apple and oranges... Would Mayweather come up with a penalty at PAC for coming in overweight?? No... Because Pac does not create advantages using his weight AFTER the weight is agreed upon... PBF will agree to a weight and then come in heavy...

The ROID issue is completely made up and has not basis of being even used against PAC.

@Killer - I really like your breakdown of the unrealistic terms of overall drug screening; however, my point is that Mayweather has no bearing on being the guy that starts this new drug screening process. This should be reviewed and drummed up by the sanctioning bodies... Not a fighters pre-fight stipulation without any evidence to even accuse PAC in the first place...

It may well be, but why not take the test and prove it? They're both subjected to the same tests, and Mayweather has a point by saying that he wants the tests to make sure that the biggest fight in history is a fair fight.

You saying earlier that 'there is no basis for this kind of test because it hasn't come up with Pac before' is ridiculous. By your logic, Nazim Richardson as wrong to accuse Margarito and ask him to re-wrap his hands because it had never been asked of him before.

If and when this comes off I thought I'd want Pac to win. But Pac's fans failure to see two sides of an argument is enough to make me want him to fail.