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    Default Re: This is ridiculous!

    Quote Originally Posted by *********** View Post
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    If manny has nothing to hide, then he should take the test at any given time. For the amount of money at stake a blood test is a silly reason to jeapordize the fight. Something is definaltly up here. But people are so forgiving cause they want floyd to loose so so bad. And that's the real sad part. Switch places and have it be floyd refusing this test or anything everyone would be whinin and cryin. The hate for floyd is at an all time level of riddiculousness
    If Manny is roiding, then Floyd was too. Look how big Floyd got. No one was forcing Floyd to take extra blood test out side of the norm of boxing. It's not in the rules so why ask for it. Floyd can't go around changing boxing at his own command. Floyd is not the one in charge. If the boxing authorities agree to change the rules, then so be it but we can't have fighters making up the rules or changing them as they see fit. There is no doubt things are not right in boxing, but Floyd is going about it the wrong way. I am all for Government intervention here.
    Floyd is subjecting himself to the same testing though. Boxing is almost entirely up to private contracts, they can ask for whatever they want. Should all fighters that come in overweight also be charged 10 million dollars per pound? Is that a precident we want to set?
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    Default Re: This is ridiculous!

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
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    If manny has nothing to hide, then he should take the test at any given time. For the amount of money at stake a blood test is a silly reason to jeapordize the fight. Something is definaltly up here. But people are so forgiving cause they want floyd to loose so so bad. And that's the real sad part. Switch places and have it be floyd refusing this test or anything everyone would be whinin and cryin. The hate for floyd is at an all time level of riddiculousness
    If Manny is roiding, then Floyd was too. Look how big Floyd got. No one was forcing Floyd to take extra blood test out side of the norm of boxing. It's not in the rules so why ask for it. Floyd can't go around changing boxing at his own command. Floyd is not the one in charge. If the boxing authorities agree to change the rules, then so be it but we can't have fighters making up the rules or changing them as they see fit. There is no doubt things are not right in boxing, but Floyd is going about it the wrong way. I am all for Government intervention here.
    Floyd is subjecting himself to the same testing though. Boxing is almost entirely up to private contracts, they can ask for whatever they want. Should all fighters that come in overweight also be charged 10 million dollars per pound? Is that a precident we want to set?
    This would be because Floyd is no longer juicing.

    If a fighter comes in over weight, there should be no fight.

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    Default Re: This is ridiculous!

    Quote Originally Posted by *********** View Post
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    If Manny is roiding, then Floyd was too. Look how big Floyd got. No one was forcing Floyd to take extra blood test out side of the norm of boxing. It's not in the rules so why ask for it. Floyd can't go around changing boxing at his own command. Floyd is not the one in charge. If the boxing authorities agree to change the rules, then so be it but we can't have fighters making up the rules or changing them as they see fit. There is no doubt things are not right in boxing, but Floyd is going about it the wrong way. I am all for Government intervention here.
    Floyd is subjecting himself to the same testing though. Boxing is almost entirely up to private contracts, they can ask for whatever they want. Should all fighters that come in overweight also be charged 10 million dollars per pound? Is that a precident we want to set?
    This would be because Floyd is no longer juicing.

    If a fighter comes in over weight, there should be no fight.
    Well if he's no longer juicing what's the problem any benefit from it would be out of his system by fight night.

    Why? If Mayweather comes in overweight and the fight goes through Pacquiao gets 10 million dollars per pound. Pac's team made no clause of fight cancellation, only monetary retribution.
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    Default Re: This is ridiculous!

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
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    Floyd is subjecting himself to the same testing though. Boxing is almost entirely up to private contracts, they can ask for whatever they want. Should all fighters that come in overweight also be charged 10 million dollars per pound? Is that a precident we want to set?
    This would be because Floyd is no longer juicing.

    If a fighter comes in over weight, there should be no fight.
    Well if he's no longer juicing what's the problem any benefit from it would be out of his system by fight night.

    Why? If Mayweather comes in overweight and the fight goes through Pacquiao gets 10 million dollars per pound. Pac's team made no clause of fight cancellation, only monetary retribution.
    And I was asked why I am was not excited about this fight?

    I guess now you know.

    The hell with both of these guys. I will just continue to watch what ever else is available. Honestly, I could careless if this fight is made or not. It's not the first time Floyd does not take a fight THE FANS ARE CLAMORING FOR, surely this wont be the last.

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    Default Re: This is ridiculous!

    Look, im a fan of Pacman and i aint got no great love for PBF, but for people to say that hes afraid of Pacman is just nonsense. Guys at that level aint frightened of anyone in and around their weightclass. Im afraid that im with PBF on this (i never thought id see myself say that), and i cannot see,nor have heard, any reasonable excuse why he cant do this.

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    Default Re: This is ridiculous!

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mar View Post
    If manny has nothing to hide, then he should take the test at any given time. For the amount of money at stake a blood test is a silly reason to jeapordize the fight. Something is definaltly up here. But people are so forgiving cause they want floyd to loose so so bad. And that's the real sad part. Switch places and have it be floyd refusing this test or anything everyone would be whinin and cryin. The hate for floyd is at an all time level of riddiculousness
    If Manny is roiding, then Floyd was too. Look how big Floyd got. No one was forcing Floyd to take extra blood test out side of the norm of boxing. It's not in the rules so why ask for it. Floyd can't go around changing boxing at his own command. Floyd is not the one in charge. If the boxing authorities agree to change the rules, then so be it but we can't have fighters making up the rules or changing them as they see fit. There is no doubt things are not right in boxing, but Floyd is going about it the wrong way. I am all for Government intervention here.
    Floyd is subjecting himself to the same testing though. Boxing is almost entirely up to private contracts, they can ask for whatever they want. Should all fighters that come in overweight also be charged 10 million dollars per pound? Is that a precident we want to set?

    Agreed that is also out of hand I mean 10 million per pound c'mon here...That is just crazy...I am not sure if that was thrown out before the request from Floyds camp for the Test or after but it is still out of hand...

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    Default Re: This is ridiculous!

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
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    If Manny is roiding, then Floyd was too. Look how big Floyd got. No one was forcing Floyd to take extra blood test out side of the norm of boxing. It's not in the rules so why ask for it. Floyd can't go around changing boxing at his own command. Floyd is not the one in charge. If the boxing authorities agree to change the rules, then so be it but we can't have fighters making up the rules or changing them as they see fit. There is no doubt things are not right in boxing, but Floyd is going about it the wrong way. I am all for Government intervention here.
    Floyd is subjecting himself to the same testing though. Boxing is almost entirely up to private contracts, they can ask for whatever they want. Should all fighters that come in overweight also be charged 10 million dollars per pound? Is that a precident we want to set?

    Agreed that is also out of hand I mean 10 million per pound c'mon here...That is just crazy...I am not sure if that was thrown out before the request from Floyds camp for the Test or after but it is still out of hand...
    10 million per pound is ridiculous but if it's applied to a previous proven offender, it sounds fair. i'm guessing that offender (floyd) will have second thoughts coming in over the agreed contract weight again

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    Default Re: This is ridiculous!

    Quote Originally Posted by zbolt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post

    Floyd is subjecting himself to the same testing though. Boxing is almost entirely up to private contracts, they can ask for whatever they want. Should all fighters that come in overweight also be charged 10 million dollars per pound? Is that a precident we want to set?

    Agreed that is also out of hand I mean 10 million per pound c'mon here...That is just crazy...I am not sure if that was thrown out before the request from Floyds camp for the Test or after but it is still out of hand...
    10 million per pound is ridiculous but if it's applied to a previous proven offender, it sounds fair. i'm guessing that offender (floyd) will have second thoughts coming in over the agreed contract weight again
    $10 million/pound is never fair. Lets be real. He has never missed making 147. No fighter would have even honored continuing that negotiation but PBF still agreed to such ridiculous request. I personally think PBF called their bluff with that request.

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    I don't ge how some people are making out like Floyd's scared of Pacquiao by asking him to take these tests. I've seen some comments saying this is proof that Floyd doesn't want to fight Manny. How? Last time i checked, Mayweather wanted to fight in May and Pacquiao wanted March. If Floyd was scared, why didn't he walk away then? Instead, he agreed to fight when Pacquiao wanted it. He then submitted to the ridiculous demand of $10 million per pound over. Again, if he was scared, he would have used this demand as an excuse to walk away. Now he wants Pacquiao to submit to random drug testing, which he also will undertake, and suddenly he's scared? I don't get it. Surely people should be happy to know that on the night there will be absolutely no doubt that the guy that wins is the better fighter, and not just the guy that took PEDs and didn't get caught? I think Manny's clean, but come on now, giving up the biggest payday of your career because you don't want to take a blood test to prove you're clean is just plain stupid. This should be made a rule throughout boxing, and i understand some people saying he shouldn't have to submit to something that others don't have to, but when was the last time a fighter submitted to a $10 million per pound penalty? Should that not be made a rule throughout boxing also? If he's got nothing to hide just do it. They just need to get this fight on. Whoever said these would be some of the messiest negotiations in boxing are being proved right

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    Default Re: This is ridiculous!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cressa121 View Post
    I don't ge how some people are making out like Floyd's scared of Pacquiao by asking him to take these tests. I've seen some comments saying this is proof that Floyd doesn't want to fight Manny. How? Last time i checked, Mayweather wanted to fight in May and Pacquiao wanted March. If Floyd was scared, why didn't he walk away then? Instead, he agreed to fight when Pacquiao wanted it. He then submitted to the ridiculous demand of $10 million per pound over. Again, if he was scared, he would have used this demand as an excuse to walk away. Now he wants Pacquiao to submit to random drug testing, which he also will undertake, and suddenly he's scared? I don't get it. Surely people should be happy to know that on the night there will be absolutely no doubt that the guy that wins is the better fighter, and not just the guy that took PEDs and didn't get caught? I think Manny's clean, but come on now, giving up the biggest payday of your career because you don't want to take a blood test to prove you're clean is just plain stupid. This should be made a rule throughout boxing, and i understand some people saying he shouldn't have to submit to something that others don't have to, but when was the last time a fighter submitted to a $10 million per pound penalty? Should that not be made a rule throughout boxing also? If he's got nothing to hide just do it. They just need to get this fight on. Whoever said these would be some of the messiest negotiations in boxing are being proved right
    The problem is that some people are diehard fans. It's no problem but these diehard fans have to look at the whole picture. And what Floyd is doing IMO is commendable. It looks like they might work it out but Manny is still saying that he doesn't wanna give blood. The blood is the KEY. I was the BIGGEST A-Rod fan, I watched him on 60 minutes saying he was clean and I was like "fuck yeah, my favorite player A-Rod is clean, he's gonna overturn the damage Bonds did" and then I found out that he wasn't. I was shocked. Really in the end, I still root for him because he's supposedly clean now and still a monster of a player but damn I just wish he was clean the whole time, now I know though. In boxing, PED use is even more important because it's physical one on one combat. I love Floyd but I really like Manny too. I'll be rooting for Floyd in the fight. I just want the winner to be clean. That's all. These diehard fans are letting the fan in them cloud their judgment. They don't care if Manny is clean or not. Their gonna root for him regardless. Which is fine but if the guy is cheating, all fans should know.

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    Default Re: This is ridiculous!

    Quote Originally Posted by blegit View Post
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    Agreed that is also out of hand I mean 10 million per pound c'mon here...That is just crazy...I am not sure if that was thrown out before the request from Floyds camp for the Test or after but it is still out of hand...
    10 million per pound is ridiculous but if it's applied to a previous proven offender, it sounds fair. i'm guessing that offender (floyd) will have second thoughts coming in over the agreed contract weight again
    $10 million/pound is never fair. Lets be real. He has never missed making 147. No fighter would have even honored continuing that negotiation but PBF still agreed to such ridiculous request. I personally think PBF called their bluff with that request.
    floyd failed to honor a fight contract before. 10 million might prevent floyd from messing up with weight again

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    Default Re: This is ridiculous!

    When has he ever been contracted to fight at 147 and not made the weight?

    The fact that he was allowed to weigh in all the way up to 154 when he fought ODLH, yet still only weighed in at 152 shows that he doesn't exactly have much boiling down to do to make 147.

    I lose 5 pounds taking a shit...

    They KNOW that he will do 147 no problem, they're just trying to get in his head over the Marquez fight a little... if that's the case then I see no reason why Floyd can't ask for strict drug testing... drug testing which most other elite athletes have to perform under and Manny suspiciously won't, as of yet.

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