Olympic Drug Testing: Has This Been Required In A Championship Fight?

[eagle]

Please show me a time when a fighter was gonna be fined 10 million dollars per pound if they came in overweight. If u cant then i will say Pac is avoiding PBF and is scared.

[brucelee]

Please show me a time when a fighter was gonna be fined 10 million dollars per pound if they came in overweight. If u cant then i will say Pac is avoiding PBF and is scared.

okay but before I do it, let me ask you if you know about time value of money.

if you don't know anything about it, please come to my finance class and I'll be glad to teach you about time value of money and tell you about boxing fines.

[eagle]

Please show me a time when a fighter was gonna be fined 10 million dollars per pound if they came in overweight. If u cant then i will say Pac is avoiding PBF and is scared.

okay but before I do it, let me ask you if you know about time value of money.

if you don't know anything about it, please come to my finance class and I'll be glad to teach you about time value of money and tell you about boxing fines.

Well go ahead explain it now. Or are u trying desperately to get out of a corner you have backed yourself into? I'll admit no fighter has had to adhere to olympic drug testing before a world title fight as far as im aware. Now answer the question i asked you.....

[The Congressman]

I guess Pacquiao is right.

2008 April 22 | Steroid Report ... ping-case/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ueUboKH ... r_embedded

USADA has proven wrong before. They're not that accurate after all. Team Mayweather's idea could create more issues. It's just their pathetic way to distract Pacquiao.

[eagle]

I guess Pacquiao is right.

2008 April 22 | Steroid Report ... ping-case/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ueUboKH ... r_embedded

USADA has proven wrong before. They're not that accurate after all. Team Mayweather's idea could create more issues. It's just their pathetic way to distract Pacquiao.

Potentially giving up 40 million dollars cos your a bit scared of a little blood test is truly pathetic and complete bullshit. What a crock of shit.

[The Congressman]

I guess Pacquiao is right.

2008 April 22 | Steroid Report ... ping-case/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ueUboKH ... r_embedded

USADA has proven wrong before. They're not that accurate after all. Team Mayweather's idea could create more issues. It's just their pathetic way to distract Pacquiao.

Potentially giving up 40 million dollars cos your a bit scared of a little blood test is truly pathetic and complete bullshit. What a crock of shit.

Pac can easily earn that money for a couple of fights. i.e. JMM and Mosely and doesn't have to deal with bitching and all kinds of rediculous whinning demands.

[Gandalf]

It hasn't been done before, but there is no good reason why it shouldn't be introduced. Admittedly, it shouldn't be on Mayweathers shoulder to introduce changes and shoudl be down to the commisions. But having said that, I don't think anybody has a problem with wanting comprehensive checks on boxers.

[The Congressman]

It hasn't been done before, but there is no good reason why it shouldn't be introduced. Admittedly, it shouldn't be on Mayweathers shoulder to introduce changes and shoudl be down to the commisions. But having said that, I don't think anybody has a problem with wanting comprehensive checks on boxers.

Or better yet...

They should exhume all dead top 10 ATG, get DNA samples and test 'em for drug. Or all their greatness will be in question. How's that sounds?

[Intazzz]

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[Gandalf]

It hasn't been done before, but there is no good reason why it shouldn't be introduced. Admittedly, it shouldn't be on Mayweathers shoulder to introduce changes and shoudl be down to the commisions. But having said that, I don't think anybody has a problem with wanting comprehensive checks on boxers.

Or better yet...

They should exhume all dead top 10 ATG, get DNA samples and test 'em for drug. Or all their greatness will be in question. How's that sounds?

No, that's a bit much. All Manny has to do is give a few random drops of blood here. It isn't any reason for him to get so defensive. He does it and we have a fight. He doesn't and he looks bad. If he really wanted the fight then he would just agree. Floyd agreed to the weight penalty easily enough, but Pac refuses a blood test kicking and screaming. It's a bit sad really.

[hitmanhatton]

Please show me a time when a fighter was gonna be fined 10 million dollars per pound if they came in overweight. If u cant then i will say Pac is avoiding PBF and is scared.

okay but before I do it, let me ask you if you know about time value of money.

if you don't know anything about it, please come to my finance class and I'll be glad to teach you about time value of money and tell you about boxing fines.

GTFO

inflation isnt that high, im pretty sure the fine for DLH against pac was $3 mil per pound..... dont try and tell me we have had inflation of 300% + since then

and the tests have never been required before, also 8oz gloves werent used at 147 in nevada before cotto-margarito..... pac wouldnt do without them now.... its called progression, we used to have fights that went on for 30+ rounds, then 15, now 12, times change, this is something that should have been bought in long ago

[brucelee]

Please show me a time when a fighter was gonna be fined 10 million dollars per pound if they came in overweight. If u cant then i will say Pac is avoiding PBF and is scared.

okay but before I do it, let me ask you if you know about time value of money.

if you don't know anything about it, please come to my finance class and I'll be glad to teach you about time value of money and tell you about boxing fines.

GTFO

inflation isnt that high, im pretty sure the fine for DLH against pac was $3 mil per pound..... dont try and tell me we have had inflation of 300% + since then

and the tests have never been required before, also 8oz gloves werent used at 147 in nevada before cotto-margarito..... pac wouldnt do without them now.... its called progression, we used to have fights that went on for 30+ rounds, then 15, now 12, times change, this is something that should have been bought in long ago

For your information, inflation rate is not the only rate used to calculate the present value factor.

inflation is only one of the factors used in the calculation of interest rate. Beside the interest rate, one should also consider MATERIALITY in deciding how much fines to exact.

That's an accounting term which I would like to expound if you would come to my class.LOL.

[hitmanhatton]

okay but before I do it, let me ask you if you know about time value of money.

if you don't know anything about it, please come to my finance class and I'll be glad to teach you about time value of money and tell you about boxing fines.

GTFO

inflation isnt that high, im pretty sure the fine for DLH against pac was $3 mil per pound..... dont try and tell me we have had inflation of 300% + since then

and the tests have never been required before, also 8oz gloves werent used at 147 in nevada before cotto-margarito..... pac wouldnt do without them now.... its called progression, we used to have fights that went on for 30+ rounds, then 15, now 12, times change, this is something that should have been bought in long ago

For your information, inflation rate is not the only rate used to calculate the present value factor.

inflation is only one of the factors used in the calculation of interest rate. Beside the interest rate, one should also consider MATERIALITY in deciding how much fines to exact.

That's an accounting term which I would like to expound if you would come to my class.LOL.

plays a very small part

put it this way you dont go from $3 mil to 10 in the space of 12-18 months with that value of funds being the same

simply put roach wants to give the most advantages possible, from what i can see all floyds team are really asking for is to guarentee its a fair fight

[brucelee]

GTFO

inflation isnt that high, im pretty sure the fine for DLH against pac was $3 mil per pound..... dont try and tell me we have had inflation of 300% + since then

and the tests have never been required before, also 8oz gloves werent used at 147 in nevada before cotto-margarito..... pac wouldnt do without them now.... its called progression, we used to have fights that went on for 30+ rounds, then 15, now 12, times change, this is something that should have been bought in long ago

For your information, inflation rate is not the only rate used to calculate the present value factor.

inflation is only one of the factors used in the calculation of interest rate. Beside the interest rate, one should also consider MATERIALITY in deciding how much fines to exact.

That's an accounting term which I would like to expound if you would come to my class.LOL.

plays a very small part

put it this way you dont go from $3 mil to 10 in the space of 12-18 months with that value of funds being the same

simply put roach wants to give the most advantages possible, from what i can see all floyds team are really asking for is to guarentee its a fair fight

It should go as high as that when you include the risk premium and the defamation factor in computing the interest rate.LOL.

Materiality wise, we're talking of around $300-$400 million revenues here. $10 million is just appropriate as a fine. Mayweather accepted it and that means it's acceptable.

[Gandalf]

Bruce, I fear that you are losing your mind.

Look at it this way. There are two demands being made. One was for weight which Mayweather has agreed to. The other was for comprehensive random testing. Manny refused it. Now both demands are justified in an ethical sense. Nobody wants Mayweather to come in at 149 pounds, do they now? And likewise nobody wants a superfight to possibly be tainted with the use of PED's. Agreed? We have eliminated one of the demands, but the other is still unresolved.

Now this is the issue at hand. There are no further outstanding demands to be made as pretty much everything else is resolved. All it takes is for Manny to do this one thing and then he can take home the purse of a lifetime. It is his refusal to do so that is making him look bad. And it is making him look extremely bad. You know as well as I do that I am not a Mayweather fan and that I have been a critic of Manny's. In this instance though I can just sit back as a casual observer with no vested interest in the fighters involved and see quite plainly that it is Manny that is being the problem here.

Stop making excuses for Manny and trying to twist the argument and just see it for what it is. Manny is refusing the fight of his career because he doesn't want to undergo random drug tests. This is the crux of the issue. We have pages of threads arguing about various things, but this is what it's all about.