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    Default Re: Olympic Drug Testing: Has This Been Required In A Championship Fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Please show me a time when a fighter was gonna be fined 10 million dollars per pound if they came in overweight. If u cant then i will say Pac is avoiding PBF and is scared.
    okay but before I do it, let me ask you if you know about time value of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Please show me a time when a fighter was gonna be fined 10 million dollars per pound if they came in overweight. If u cant then i will say Pac is avoiding PBF and is scared.
    okay but before I do it, let me ask you if you know about time value of money.

    if you don't know anything about it, please come to my finance class and I'll be glad to teach you about time value of money and tell you about boxing fines.
    Well go ahead explain it now. Or are u trying desperately to get out of a corner you have backed yourself into? I'll admit no fighter has had to adhere to olympic drug testing before a world title fight as far as im aware. Now answer the question i asked you.....

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    Default Re: Olympic Drug Testing: Has This Been Required In A Championship Fight?

    I guess Pacquiao is right.

    2008 April 22 | Steroid Report ... ping-case/

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ueUboKH ... r_embedded

    USADA has proven wrong before. They're not that accurate after all. Team Mayweather's idea could create more issues. It's just their pathetic way to distract Pacquiao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Congressman View Post
    I guess Pacquiao is right.

    2008 April 22 | Steroid Report ... ping-case/

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ueUboKH ... r_embedded

    USADA has proven wrong before. They're not that accurate after all. Team Mayweather's idea could create more issues. It's just their pathetic way to distract Pacquiao.
    Potentially giving up 40 million dollars cos your a bit scared of a little blood test is truly pathetic and complete bullshit. What a crock of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Congressman View Post
    I guess Pacquiao is right.

    2008 April 22 | Steroid Report ... ping-case/

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ueUboKH ... r_embedded

    USADA has proven wrong before. They're not that accurate after all. Team Mayweather's idea could create more issues. It's just their pathetic way to distract Pacquiao.
    Potentially giving up 40 million dollars cos your a bit scared of a little blood test is truly pathetic and complete bullshit. What a crock of shit.
    Pac can easily earn that money for a couple of fights. i.e. JMM and Mosely and doesn't have to deal with bitching and all kinds of rediculous whinning demands.

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    Default Re: Olympic Drug Testing: Has This Been Required In A Championship Fight?

    It hasn't been done before, but there is no good reason why it shouldn't be introduced. Admittedly, it shouldn't be on Mayweathers shoulder to introduce changes and shoudl be down to the commisions. But having said that, I don't think anybody has a problem with wanting comprehensive checks on boxers.

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    Default Re: Olympic Drug Testing: Has This Been Required In A Championship Fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    It hasn't been done before, but there is no good reason why it shouldn't be introduced. Admittedly, it shouldn't be on Mayweathers shoulder to introduce changes and shoudl be down to the commisions. But having said that, I don't think anybody has a problem with wanting comprehensive checks on boxers.
    Or better yet...

    They should exhume all dead top 10 ATG, get DNA samples and test 'em for drug. Or all their greatness will be in question. How's that sounds?

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    Don't waste your time Pac fans. Abuser MOD CFH will moved this to SPAM. Without any reasons. Please take a look in the SPAM thread. CFH

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Congressman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    It hasn't been done before, but there is no good reason why it shouldn't be introduced. Admittedly, it shouldn't be on Mayweathers shoulder to introduce changes and shoudl be down to the commisions. But having said that, I don't think anybody has a problem with wanting comprehensive checks on boxers.
    Or better yet...

    They should exhume all dead top 10 ATG, get DNA samples and test 'em for drug. Or all their greatness will be in question. How's that sounds?
    No, that's a bit much. All Manny has to do is give a few random drops of blood here. It isn't any reason for him to get so defensive. He does it and we have a fight. He doesn't and he looks bad. If he really wanted the fight then he would just agree. Floyd agreed to the weight penalty easily enough, but Pac refuses a blood test kicking and screaming. It's a bit sad really.

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    Default Re: Olympic Drug Testing: Has This Been Required In A Championship Fight?

    The following statement is still true

    "Pacquiao is refusing to fight because of a drug test"

    Feel free to spin this against Mayweather however you want, but it doesn't change the previous fact.
    For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.

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    Default Re: Olympic Drug Testing: Has This Been Required In A Championship Fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Congressman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    It hasn't been done before, but there is no good reason why it shouldn't be introduced. Admittedly, it shouldn't be on Mayweathers shoulder to introduce changes and shoudl be down to the commisions. But having said that, I don't think anybody has a problem with wanting comprehensive checks on boxers.
    Or better yet...

    They should exhume all dead top 10 ATG, get DNA samples and test 'em for drug. Or all their greatness will be in question. How's that sounds?
    No, that's a bit much. All Manny has to do is give a few random drops of blood here. It isn't any reason for him to get so defensive. He does it and we have a fight. He doesn't and he looks bad. If he really wanted the fight then he would just agree. Floyd agreed to the weight penalty easily enough, but Pac refuses a blood test kicking and screaming. It's a bit sad really.
    It's not just a "random drops". Floyd was an olympian. He experienced it before and more familiar with it. It's something new for team pacquiao, and it will surely distract their camp. And btw, Pac is pretty f-ing far from kicking and screaming regarding the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Please show me a time when a fighter was gonna be fined 10 million dollars per pound if they came in overweight. If u cant then i will say Pac is avoiding PBF and is scared.
    okay but before I do it, let me ask you if you know about time value of money.

    if you don't know anything about it, please come to my finance class and I'll be glad to teach you about time value of money and tell you about boxing fines.
    GTFO

    inflation isnt that high, im pretty sure the fine for DLH against pac was $3 mil per pound..... dont try and tell me we have had inflation of 300% + since then

    and the tests have never been required before, also 8oz gloves werent used at 147 in nevada before cotto-margarito..... pac wouldnt do without them now.... its called progression, we used to have fights that went on for 30+ rounds, then 15, now 12, times change, this is something that should have been bought in long ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Please show me a time when a fighter was gonna be fined 10 million dollars per pound if they came in overweight. If u cant then i will say Pac is avoiding PBF and is scared.
    okay but before I do it, let me ask you if you know about time value of money.

    if you don't know anything about it, please come to my finance class and I'll be glad to teach you about time value of money and tell you about boxing fines.
    GTFO

    inflation isnt that high, im pretty sure the fine for DLH against pac was $3 mil per pound..... dont try and tell me we have had inflation of 300% + since then

    and the tests have never been required before, also 8oz gloves werent used at 147 in nevada before cotto-margarito..... pac wouldnt do without them now.... its called progression, we used to have fights that went on for 30+ rounds, then 15, now 12, times change, this is something that should have been bought in long ago

    For your information, inflation rate is not the only rate used to calculate the present value factor.

    inflation is only one of the factors used in the calculation of interest rate. Beside the interest rate, one should also consider MATERIALITY in deciding how much fines to exact.

    That's an accounting term which I would like to expound if you would come to my class.LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post

    okay but before I do it, let me ask you if you know about time value of money.

    if you don't know anything about it, please come to my finance class and I'll be glad to teach you about time value of money and tell you about boxing fines.
    GTFO

    inflation isnt that high, im pretty sure the fine for DLH against pac was $3 mil per pound..... dont try and tell me we have had inflation of 300% + since then

    and the tests have never been required before, also 8oz gloves werent used at 147 in nevada before cotto-margarito..... pac wouldnt do without them now.... its called progression, we used to have fights that went on for 30+ rounds, then 15, now 12, times change, this is something that should have been bought in long ago

    For your information, inflation rate is not the only rate used to calculate the present value factor.

    inflation is only one of the factors used in the calculation of interest rate. Beside the interest rate, one should also consider MATERIALITY in deciding how much fines to exact.

    That's an accounting term which I would like to expound if you would come to my class.LOL.
    plays a very small part

    put it this way you dont go from $3 mil to 10 in the space of 12-18 months with that value of funds being the same

    simply put roach wants to give the most advantages possible, from what i can see all floyds team are really asking for is to guarentee its a fair fight
    Last edited by hitmanhatton; 12-25-2009 at 11:20 AM. Reason: .

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    Default Re: Olympic Drug Testing: Has This Been Required In A Championship Fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post

    GTFO

    inflation isnt that high, im pretty sure the fine for DLH against pac was $3 mil per pound..... dont try and tell me we have had inflation of 300% + since then

    and the tests have never been required before, also 8oz gloves werent used at 147 in nevada before cotto-margarito..... pac wouldnt do without them now.... its called progression, we used to have fights that went on for 30+ rounds, then 15, now 12, times change, this is something that should have been bought in long ago

    For your information, inflation rate is not the only rate used to calculate the present value factor.

    inflation is only one of the factors used in the calculation of interest rate. Beside the interest rate, one should also consider MATERIALITY in deciding how much fines to exact.

    That's an accounting term which I would like to expound if you would come to my class.LOL.
    plays a very small part

    put it this way you dont go from $3 mil to 10 in the space of 12-18 months with that value of funds being the same

    simply put roach wants to give the most advantages possible, from what i can see all floyds team are really asking for is to guarentee its a fair fight

    It should go as high as that when you include the risk premium and the defamation factor in computing the interest rate.LOL.

    Materiality wise, we're talking of around $300-$400 million revenues here. $10 million is just appropriate as a fine. Mayweather accepted it and that means it's acceptable.

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