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    Default Re: Manny Pacquiao is Not on Steroids or PEDS... Plain and Very Simple

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    Well... not really! In fact testing for EPO using blood is actually just to determine if Urine testing is warranted. Using blood they only check to see if there an unusual blood profile, where as with Urine they check for the presents of the EPO drug itself. Point is, with a blood test, nothing other than an unusual blood profile would show up. (If EPO was actually being used) That also includes testing the blood right after the fight since "it's effects last for a week or longer".
    That confirms it. MAYWEATHER is afraid of the Pac for asking that ridiculous blood testing. Pac agreed to a blood testing before and after the fight. what more does he want now?



    WE need someone who's really knowledgeable about this testing and let him speak to Gayweather.

    It's clear that gayweather is trying to divert the blame on Pac. He's afraid of Pac and it's crystal clear to me now.

    If mayweather doesn't change his stand on this and sign the contract, then it's obvious that he doesn't want to fight pac.
    your ignorent to say any profesional fighter is 'afraid'


    and why should he change his stand... so pac can carry on with his juicing if that is what he is doing.... maybe pac should change his stand over the weight limit fines and the gloves.... or perhaps he is afraid ? of course i dont believe that but by your way of working things out it seems a reasonable conclusion to make
    Gayweather ducked Cotto and Margarito. What can you conclude about it?


    It seems that you're the one whose ignorant in boxing. There have been many boxers who have intentionally ducked their most feared opponents.

    If you ask me who are these then that confirms how ignorant you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
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    That confirms it. MAYWEATHER is afraid of the Pac for asking that ridiculous blood testing. Pac agreed to a blood testing before and after the fight. what more does he want now?



    WE need someone who's really knowledgeable about this testing and let him speak to Gayweather.

    It's clear that gayweather is trying to divert the blame on Pac. He's afraid of Pac and it's crystal clear to me now.

    If mayweather doesn't change his stand on this and sign the contract, then it's obvious that he doesn't want to fight pac.
    your ignorent to say any profesional fighter is 'afraid'


    and why should he change his stand... so pac can carry on with his juicing if that is what he is doing.... maybe pac should change his stand over the weight limit fines and the gloves.... or perhaps he is afraid ? of course i dont believe that but by your way of working things out it seems a reasonable conclusion to make
    Gayweather ducked Cotto and Margarito. What can you conclude about it?


    It seems that you're the one whose ignorant in boxing. There have been many boxers who have intentionally ducked their most feared opponents.

    If you ask me who are these then that confirms how ignorant you are.

    unlike you i dont have a one track mind and concentrate on just one fighter, i am a boxing fan not a fan of one particualar guy

    you dont reach that level by being scared, the 'most feared' tag is media hype that you obviouslly fall for, risk and reward come in to it, why did pac not fight guzman when he had the chance, why did he pick david diaz over the true lw champ nate campbell...... same thing they didnt bring in enough $$ to justify the risk, its not good for the sport but that is the way it is im afraid

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    Default Re: Manny Pacquiao is Not on Steroids or PEDS... Plain and Very Simple

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
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    your ignorent to say any profesional fighter is 'afraid'


    and why should he change his stand... so pac can carry on with his juicing if that is what he is doing.... maybe pac should change his stand over the weight limit fines and the gloves.... or perhaps he is afraid ? of course i dont believe that but by your way of working things out it seems a reasonable conclusion to make
    Gayweather ducked Cotto and Margarito. What can you conclude about it?


    It seems that you're the one whose ignorant in boxing. There have been many boxers who have intentionally ducked their most feared opponents.

    If you ask me who are these then that confirms how ignorant you are.

    unlike you i dont have a one track mind and concentrate on just one fighter, i am a boxing fan not a fan of one particualar guy

    you dont reach that level by being scared, the 'most feared' tag is media hype that you obviouslly fall for, risk and reward come in to it, why did pac not fight guzman when he had the chance, why did he pick david diaz over the true lw champ nate campbell...... same thing they didnt bring in enough $$ to justify the risk, its not good for the sport but that is the way it is im afraid
    what chance against guzman are you talking about? guzman was an unknown fighter during that time and Pac was like demolishing legends( Barrera and Morales) then.

    Pac fought 3 to 2 times a year and all of them towards achieving a goal. To win belts in as many divisions as possible.

    nate campbell as the true lw champ? how about Juan Diaz and Casamayor ( The Ring title holder) who were also champions then? I thought Juan was the man during that time. I could remember it well and no one's talking of Campbell as the true lw champ then.

    So again, what chances are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
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    Gayweather ducked Cotto and Margarito. What can you conclude about it?


    It seems that you're the one whose ignorant in boxing. There have been many boxers who have intentionally ducked their most feared opponents.

    If you ask me who are these then that confirms how ignorant you are.

    unlike you i dont have a one track mind and concentrate on just one fighter, i am a boxing fan not a fan of one particualar guy

    you dont reach that level by being scared, the 'most feared' tag is media hype that you obviouslly fall for, risk and reward come in to it, why did pac not fight guzman when he had the chance, why did he pick david diaz over the true lw champ nate campbell...... same thing they didnt bring in enough $$ to justify the risk, its not good for the sport but that is the way it is im afraid
    what chance against guzman are you talking about? guzman was an unknown fighter during that time and Pac was like demolishing legends( Barrera and Morales) then.

    Pac fought 3 to 2 times a year and all of them towards achieving a goal. To win belts in as many divisions as possible.

    nate campbell as the true lw champ? how about Juan Diaz and Casamayor ( The Ring title holder) who were also champions then? I thought Juan was the man during that time. I could remember it well and no one's talking of Campbell as the true lw champ then.

    So again, what chances are you talking about?
    campbell had already beat the #1 Lw in diaz at that point, casamayor was showing blatent signs of being past, and pac picked the weakest champion in that division

    calling guzman an unknown shows a lack of interest in anyone other than pac , guzman called pac out following the barrera rematch, but he instead moved up to fight david diaz...

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    Default Re: Manny Pacquiao is Not on Steroids or PEDS... Plain and Very Simple

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post


    unlike you i dont have a one track mind and concentrate on just one fighter, i am a boxing fan not a fan of one particualar guy

    you dont reach that level by being scared, the 'most feared' tag is media hype that you obviouslly fall for, risk and reward come in to it, why did pac not fight guzman when he had the chance, why did he pick david diaz over the true lw champ nate campbell...... same thing they didnt bring in enough $$ to justify the risk, its not good for the sport but that is the way it is im afraid
    what chance against guzman are you talking about? guzman was an unknown fighter during that time and Pac was like demolishing legends( Barrera and Morales) then.

    Pac fought 3 to 2 times a year and all of them towards achieving a goal. To win belts in as many divisions as possible.

    nate campbell as the true lw champ? how about Juan Diaz and Casamayor ( The Ring title holder) who were also champions then? I thought Juan was the man during that time. I could remember it well and no one's talking of Campbell as the true lw champ then.

    So again, what chances are you talking about?
    campbell had already beat the #1 Lw in diaz at that point, casamayor was showing blatent signs of being past, and pac picked the weakest champion in that division

    calling guzman an unknown shows a lack of interest in anyone other than pac , guzman called pac out following the barrera rematch, but he instead moved up to fight david diaz...
    Pac picked up the weakest guy because he is testing waters at 135. He is a former 106 pnder for God's sake! And please don't say that david is some puny. Pac is just that good but to say the least david is a strong fighter and a c-class at best. What you should realize is pac went up against a heavier opponent in a championship fight while testing waters at 135.
    And pac afraid of campbell? Lol. It seems you have forgotten what a bum peden did to him. What more if that was pac. Pac toys with nate easily.
    Guzman? Funeka just showed that he can be hurt. And just by jabs? Manny has a lot than jabs to hurt guz. Funeka just exposed how overrated this guy was.
    The moment pac ko'ed cotto, you should'nt bring up guzman, campbell, juan diaz or anybody which pac did'nt faced back then. You should'nt just should'nt. Rule of thumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post

    what chance against guzman are you talking about? guzman was an unknown fighter during that time and Pac was like demolishing legends( Barrera and Morales) then.

    Pac fought 3 to 2 times a year and all of them towards achieving a goal. To win belts in as many divisions as possible.

    nate campbell as the true lw champ? how about Juan Diaz and Casamayor ( The Ring title holder) who were also champions then? I thought Juan was the man during that time. I could remember it well and no one's talking of Campbell as the true lw champ then.

    So again, what chances are you talking about?
    campbell had already beat the #1 Lw in diaz at that point, casamayor was showing blatent signs of being past, and pac picked the weakest champion in that division

    calling guzman an unknown shows a lack of interest in anyone other than pac , guzman called pac out following the barrera rematch, but he instead moved up to fight david diaz...
    Pac picked up the weakest guy because he is testing waters at 135. He is a former 106 pnder for God's sake! And please don't say that david is some puny. Pac is just that good but to say the least david is a strong fighter and a c-class at best. What you should realize is pac went up against a heavier opponent in a championship fight while testing waters at 135.
    And pac afraid of campbell? Lol. It seems you have forgotten what a bum peden did to him. What more if that was pac. Pac toys with nate easily.
    Guzman? Funeka just showed that he can be hurt. And just by jabs? Manny has a lot than jabs to hurt guz. Funeka just exposed how overrated this guy was.
    The moment pac ko'ed cotto, you should'nt bring up guzman, campbell, juan diaz or anybody which pac did'nt faced back then. You should'nt just should'nt. Rule of thumb.

    when he was 16 for fuck sake, he is now 30 years old, have you seen how thin he looked at 106 lb?? i love how pac fans go on about him being 106 back in the day but also use weight draining as an excuse for his losses, obviously he wasnt meant to be that weight to start with

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post

    campbell had already beat the #1 Lw in diaz at that point, casamayor was showing blatent signs of being past, and pac picked the weakest champion in that division

    calling guzman an unknown shows a lack of interest in anyone other than pac , guzman called pac out following the barrera rematch, but he instead moved up to fight david diaz...
    Pac picked up the weakest guy because he is testing waters at 135. He is a former 106 pnder for God's sake! And please don't say that david is some puny. Pac is just that good but to say the least david is a strong fighter and a c-class at best. What you should realize is pac went up against a heavier opponent in a championship fight while testing waters at 135.
    And pac afraid of campbell? Lol. It seems you have forgotten what a bum peden did to him. What more if that was pac. Pac toys with nate easily.
    Guzman? Funeka just showed that he can be hurt. And just by jabs? Manny has a lot than jabs to hurt guz. Funeka just exposed how overrated this guy was.
    The moment pac ko'ed cotto, you should'nt bring up guzman, campbell, juan diaz or anybody which pac did'nt faced back then. You should'nt just should'nt. Rule of thumb.

    when he was 16 for fuck sake, he is now 30 years old, have you seen how thin he looked at 106 lb?? i love how pac fans go on about him being 106 back in the day but also use weight draining as an excuse for his losses, obviously he wasnt meant to be that weight to start with

    I was 7lb something when I was born, look how I've grown. I wonder what pac weighed?

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    Default Re: Manny Pacquiao is Not on Steroids or PEDS... Plain and Very Simple

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post

    campbell had already beat the #1 Lw in diaz at that point, casamayor was showing blatent signs of being past, and pac picked the weakest champion in that division

    calling guzman an unknown shows a lack of interest in anyone other than pac , guzman called pac out following the barrera rematch, but he instead moved up to fight david diaz...
    Pac picked up the weakest guy because he is testing waters at 135. He is a former 106 pnder for God's sake! And please don't say that david is some puny. Pac is just that good but to say the least david is a strong fighter and a c-class at best. What you should realize is pac went up against a heavier opponent in a championship fight while testing waters at 135.
    And pac afraid of campbell? Lol. It seems you have forgotten what a bum peden did to him. What more if that was pac. Pac toys with nate easily.
    Guzman? Funeka just showed that he can be hurt. And just by jabs? Manny has a lot than jabs to hurt guz. Funeka just exposed how overrated this guy was.
    The moment pac ko'ed cotto, you should'nt bring up guzman, campbell, juan diaz or anybody which pac did'nt faced back then. You should'nt just should'nt. Rule of thumb.

    when he was 16 for fuck sake, he is now 30 years old, have you seen how thin he looked at 106 lb?? i love how pac fans go on about him being 106 back in the day but also use weight draining as an excuse for his losses, obviously he wasnt meant to be that weight to start with
    Find in my post that i was sour graping his loses because he was weight drained. Any post. Don't label me with them. For me pac's losses are inexcusable. I'm not like some pachaters out there, who find every lame excuse for all the opponents pac has beaten.
    Hmmm i wonder who are those hypocrites out there. hmmm..
    Last edited by mad_takamura; 12-26-2009 at 10:50 AM.

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