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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
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    And if he will? Then all of you haters will still find other excuses.
    Excuse for what? All we are asking for is him to take the random drug screen.
    Then if he comes out clean then what?
    Still other posters will degrade him. I bet they will say arum bribed them. I'm so tired hearing excuses after excuses. I just hope it will be over when pac proves he's clean.
    Most of the people here you are arguing with are not haters, they just see the situation for what it is. Mayweather camp asked for stricter drug testing.

    1.Pacquiao's camp instead of using that as an opportunity to show they were clean, started out talking about superstition and then videos of him getting a blood test right before the Hatton fight came out so that was untrue.

    2. Then they said it was because it would disrupt their schedule. Which it wouldn't, which has been proven by any Olympian who has broken a record and still been subjected to the same test.

    3. Then they said it would be unfair to Pacquiao even Mayweather would be subjected to the exact same test.

    4. Then they ran off and starting talking to Malignaggi's camp, even though everything besides the drug test had been agreed on.

    5. Then they started setting up a defamation lawsuit.

    You can call me a hater all you want, but this is the fight I want to see. The best defensive fighter of our time, against the best offensive fighter of our time. And I'm calling Pac out on it right now, because he is the one that's not making this happen, and all points raised are about a simple blood test that thousands of athletes are already subjected to.

    Don't you want to see this fight? Or do you prefer to a trial? Or better yet, do you want to see what Malignaggi adds to his legacy?
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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by albsur2006 View Post
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    Dude your the biggest boner of them all, by your definition half of the US citizens and world should be sued by the president because they say he is this and that and is doing a shitty job running the country
    First off, I made no definitions. I just provided the information and links And I agree that Pacquaio has a strong case. You don't have to agree. That other stuff you write is just nonsense.
    Why do you believe Pacquiao has a strong case? And more importantly, why would you want to see a case in the first place instead of the fight?
    Read stupid! I want to see that fight as much as anyone. They did a press release specifically to attack Pacquiao designed to try and make him look like he's on something. They did this with a gag agreement in place to prevent media negotiations. This proves malicious intent toward his image which is one of the hardest criteria to meet in proving defamation of character.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post

    Excuse for what? All we are asking for is him to take the random drug screen.
    Then if he comes out clean then what?
    Still other posters will degrade him. I bet they will say arum bribed them. I'm so tired hearing excuses after excuses. I just hope it will be over when pac proves he's clean.
    Most of the people here you are arguing with are not haters, they just see the situation for what it is. Mayweather camp asked for stricter drug testing.

    1.Pacquiao's camp instead of using that as an opportunity to show they were clean, started out talking about superstition and then videos of him getting a blood test right before the Hatton fight came out so that was untrue.

    2. Then they said it was because it would disrupt their schedule. Which it wouldn't, which has been proven by any Olympian who has broken a record and still been subjected to the same test.

    3. Then they said it would be unfair to Pacquiao even Mayweather would be subjected to the exact same test.

    4. Then they ran off and starting talking to Malignaggi's camp, even though everything besides the drug test had been agreed on.

    5. Then they started setting up a defamation lawsuit.

    You can call me a hater all you want, but this is the fight I want to see. The best defensive fighter of our time, against the best offensive fighter of our time. And I'm calling Pac out on it right now, because he is the one that's not making this happen, and all points raised are about a simple blood test that thousands of athletes are already subjected to.

    Don't you want to see this fight? Or do you prefer to a trial? Or better yet, do you want to see what Malignaggi adds to his legacy?
    I DO want to see this fight. You should imagine me panting out like a rabid dog to my friends talking about this fight like a damned retard..
    Anyways, imo this fight will still happen. Why would pac trade $40m to fighting a sourgraping italian birdboy?
    I believe in the coming days pac will eventually agree on the blood test. This is just part of psywar bet. freddie and the mayweather team, making them believe that pac is in to "something" or perhaps adding more drama to the hype. If you look at it that way, there is a possibility it's a psywar and adding up more to the drama coming to this fight. The way this is tackled to numerous boxing web sites, they are suceeding.
    Last edited by mad_takamura; 12-26-2009 at 12:17 PM.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Then if he comes out clean then what?
    Still other posters will degrade him. I bet they will say arum bribed them. I'm so tired hearing excuses after excuses. I just hope it will be over when pac proves he's clean.
    Most of the people here you are arguing with are not haters, they just see the situation for what it is. Mayweather camp asked for stricter drug testing.

    1.Pacquiao's camp instead of using that as an opportunity to show they were clean, started out talking about superstition and then videos of him getting a blood test right before the Hatton fight came out so that was untrue.

    2. Then they said it was because it would disrupt their schedule. Which it wouldn't, which has been proven by any Olympian who has broken a record and still been subjected to the same test.

    3. Then they said it would be unfair to Pacquiao even Mayweather would be subjected to the exact same test.

    4. Then they ran off and starting talking to Malignaggi's camp, even though everything besides the drug test had been agreed on.

    5. Then they started setting up a defamation lawsuit.

    You can call me a hater all you want, but this is the fight I want to see. The best defensive fighter of our time, against the best offensive fighter of our time. And I'm calling Pac out on it right now, because he is the one that's not making this happen, and all points raised are about a simple blood test that thousands of athletes are already subjected to.

    Don't you want to see this fight? Or do you prefer to a trial? Or better yet, do you want to see what Malignaggi adds to his legacy?
    I DOwant to see this fight. You should imagine me panting out like a rabid dog to my friends talking about this fight like a damned retard..
    Anyways, imo this fight will still happen. Why would pac trade $40m to fighting a sourgraping italian birdboy?
    I believe in the coming days pac will eventually agree on the blood test. This is just part of psywar bet. freddie and the mayweather team, making them believe that pac is in to "something" or perhaps adding more drama to the hype. If you look at it that way, there is a possibility it's a psywar and adding up more to the drama coming to this fight. The way this is tackled to numerous boxing web sites, they are suceeding.
    again...i fixed it above for you

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post

    Most of the people here you are arguing with are not haters, they just see the situation for what it is. Mayweather camp asked for stricter drug testing.

    1.Pacquiao's camp instead of using that as an opportunity to show they were clean, started out talking about superstition and then videos of him getting a blood test right before the Hatton fight came out so that was untrue.

    2. Then they said it was because it would disrupt their schedule. Which it wouldn't, which has been proven by any Olympian who has broken a record and still been subjected to the same test.

    3. Then they said it would be unfair to Pacquiao even Mayweather would be subjected to the exact same test.

    4. Then they ran off and starting talking to Malignaggi's camp, even though everything besides the drug test had been agreed on.

    5. Then they started setting up a defamation lawsuit.

    You can call me a hater all you want, but this is the fight I want to see. The best defensive fighter of our time, against the best offensive fighter of our time. And I'm calling Pac out on it right now, because he is the one that's not making this happen, and all points raised are about a simple blood test that thousands of athletes are already subjected to.

    Don't you want to see this fight? Or do you prefer to a trial? Or better yet, do you want to see what Malignaggi adds to his legacy?
    I DOwant to see this fight. You should imagine me panting out like a rabid dog to my friends talking about this fight like a damned retard..
    Anyways, imo this fight will still happen. Why would pac trade $40m to fighting a sourgraping italian birdboy?
    I believe in the coming days pac will eventually agree on the blood test. This is just part of psywar bet. freddie and the mayweather team, making them believe that pac is in to "something" or perhaps adding more drama to the hype. If you look at it that way, there is a possibility it's a psywar and adding up more to the drama coming to this fight. The way this is tackled to numerous boxing web sites, they are suceeding.
    again...i fixed it above for you
    That's cute. I wanted to eliminate some wrong grammar before, pisses me of. But as a matter of fact, i would like to thank you for clearing the above statement for me. You're just a good person.You dig?

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    I DOwant to see this fight. You should imagine me panting out like a rabid dog to my friends talking about this fight like a damned retard..
    Anyways, imo this fight will still happen. Why would pac trade $40m to fighting a sourgraping italian birdboy?
    I believe in the coming days pac will eventually agree on the blood test. This is just part of psywar bet. freddie and the mayweather team, making them believe that pac is in to "something" or perhaps adding more drama to the hype. If you look at it that way, there is a possibility it's a psywar and adding up more to the drama coming to this fight. The way this is tackled to numerous boxing web sites, they are suceeding.
    again...i fixed it above for you
    That's cute. I wanted to eliminate some wrong grammar before, pisses me of. But as a matter of fact, i would like to thank you for clearing the above statement for me. You're just a good person.You dig?
    what the hell is a FAGED?!?

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    again...i fixed it above for you
    That's cute. I wanted to eliminate some wrong grammar before, pisses me of. But as a matter of fact, i would like to thank you for clearing the above statement for me. You're just a good person.You dig?
    what the hell is a FAGED?!?
    Don't know did you made that up? End.

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    You're lucky i added "you're just a good person. You dig." END.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    You're lucky i added "you're just a good person. You dig." END.
    if you meant FAGGOT well thanks for the invitation but no thanks i'm not into dudes, but cool for you to be so open with your gayness lol bet you Manny would be proud of your courage to come out of the closet so openly, good for you

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    You're lucky i added "you're just a good person. You dig." END.
    if you meant FAGGOT well thanks for the invitation but no thanks i'm not into dudes, but cool for you to be so open with your gayness lol bet you Manny would be proud of your courage to come out of the closet so openly, good for you
    Sorry but I did not have "faggot" on my post. Why did you say such a word. Are you....like it?
    Can you please highlight that word in my posts?
    And nope i'm not gay. "Thanks for the invitation?" Thanking me for what? WHat? With that word "thanks" i will have second thoughts about you el, really. No hard feelings. END.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    You're lucky i added "you're just a good person. You dig." END.
    if you meant FAGGOT well thanks for the invitation but no thanks i'm not into dudes, but cool for you to be so open with your gayness lol bet you Manny would be proud of your courage to come out of the closet so openly, good for you
    Sorry but I did not have "faggot" on my post. Why did you say such a word. Are you....like it?
    Can you please highlight that word in my posts?
    And nope i'm not gay. "Thanks for the invitation?" Thanking me for what? WHat? With that word "thanks" i will have second thoughts about you el, really. No hard feelings. END.
    yea thought i'd just help you learn how to spell, don't wanna piss you of

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Wait a min floyd supposidly is the money hungry one right ? C'mon now floyd called me names so I want two jillion more dollars ? You even have time for this crap pac ? Besides runnin for office and ducking drug tests now waste fans, floyd's and your time is just plain sad. Who gives a crap what he says you get to fight over it right?! settle it there like most pre fight trash talk is handled. You see the klits's taking haye to judge judy ? Any Tyson opponets how bout opponets of mayorga ? Oh yea cause we all know floyd has never been slandered or lied about. Stop crying like a bitch PAC and fight you got your weight stip floyd letting you take regular tests and possibly cheat.......and people hate floyd. Can you imagine if this were reversed and floyd was ducking tests (for any reason) and trying to sue pac the bullshit and crying would be insane
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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    I find the following excerpts taken from FightNews to be somewhat troubling....

    Pacquiao to sue Mayweather | Fightnews - Boxing News Updated 24/7
    Pacquiao said he is not against any form of drug testing mandated by any state athletic sports commission whenever, wherever he fights. He just finds it funny and stupid to change a system that has been set for decades now. Pacquiao has undergone drug testing and other medical examinations before and after every fight over the past 15 years and has never failed any of these tests.
    “These people think they are doing the sport a great service. They are not,” added Pacquiao. “To Floyd, despite all these accusations, may your Christmas be merry and I will see you in court, soon, too.”


    What is so funny and stupid about wanting to update the antiquated testing procedures that we have in boxing? Surely, it would a smart thing to have boxing following the current practices involved in other sports where blood is used along with urine to provide comprensive checks. Manny seems to support the status quo, even though he is probably quite aware that it allows for loopholes. Manny seems to take pride in having never failed a urine test, which I agree is a good thing. But why now the outright aversion to random testing procedures?



    The quotes at the end sum up the contradiction and absurdity of the Pac teams response to this entire scandal. How is wanting comprensive testing NOT doing the sport a great service? It just doesn't make any sense. Two athletes getting tested to the highest levels, is surely setting a great example to the boxing world. It is saying top boxers have nothing to hide. It is also saying that boxing may well be able to take it's testing procedures as seriously as in other sports. The final statement from Manny is that the top fighter in the world is choosing a lengthy drawn out court process (which I think he will lose) rather than simply go ahead and show himself as a clean living top level athlete.



    It's all very sad really. Manny has dug himself in deep with his response. It could have been resolved in minutes and yet they have allowed it become something else. Manny has made himself look suspicious in his response more so than through any comments by Mayweather Snr. or Goldenboy. Lashing out with legal proceedings is the icing on the cake of this whole sorry exercise in futility.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post

    if you meant FAGGOT well thanks for the invitation but no thanks i'm not into dudes, but cool for you to be so open with your gayness lol bet you Manny would be proud of your courage to come out of the closet so openly, good for you
    Sorry but I did not have "faggot" on my post. Why did you say such a word. Are you....like it?
    Can you please highlight that word in my posts?
    And nope i'm not gay. "Thanks for the invitation?" Thanking me for what? WHat? With that word "thanks" i will have second thoughts about you el, really. No hard feelings. END.
    yea thought i'd just help you learn how to spell, don't wanna piss you of
    Yeah, "don't wanna piss me off" by highlighting damned retard on my other post. Don't be a hypocrite. Haters stink with much bitterness from their hatred.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I find the following excerpts taken from FightNews to be somewhat troubling....

    Pacquiao to sue Mayweather | Fightnews - Boxing News Updated 24/7
    Pacquiao said he is not against any form of drug testing mandated by any state athletic sports commission whenever, wherever he fights. He just finds it funny and stupid to change a system that has been set for decades now. Pacquiao has undergone drug testing and other medical examinations before and after every fight over the past 15 years and has never failed any of these tests.
    “These people think they are doing the sport a great service. They are not,” added Pacquiao. “To Floyd, despite all these accusations, may your Christmas be merry and I will see you in court, soon, too.”


    What is so funny and stupid about wanting to update the antiquated testing procedures that we have in boxing? Surely, it would a smart thing to have boxing following the current practices involved in other sports where blood is used along with urine to provide comprensive checks. Manny seems to support the status quo, even though he is probably quite aware that it allows for loopholes. Manny seems to take pride in having never failed a urine test, which I agree is a good thing. But why now the outright aversion to random testing procedures?



    The quotes at the end sum up the contradiction and absurdity of the Pac teams response to this entire scandal. How is wanting comprensive testing NOT doing the sport a great service? It just doesn't make any sense. Two athletes getting tested to the highest levels, is surely setting a great example to the boxing world. It is saying top boxers have nothing to hide. It is also saying that boxing may well be able to take it's testing procedures as seriously as in other sports. The final statement from Manny is that the top fighter in the world is choosing a lengthy drawn out court process (which I think he will lose) rather than simply go ahead and show himself as a clean living top level athlete.



    It's all very sad really. Manny has dug himself in deep with his response. It could have been resolved in minutes and yet they have allowed it become something else. Manny has made himself look suspicious in his response more so than through any comments by Mayweather Snr. or Goldenboy. Lashing out with legal proceedings is the icing on the cake of this whole sorry exercise in futility.
    I'm with you man. This what I'm talking about. It seems like nobody gives a damn who's fighting clean. You can tell some of these guys in this forum that the regular testing is a complete joke until you're blue in the face and they'll just reply with "well why does Manny have to be tested (as if he's the only one in the fight getting tested)" or "how come some other fight isn't requiring the testing?" They don't want to think about the fact that Manny isn't clean and they would rather support shitty testing instead of GOOD testing because that is what Manny wants so they support Manny. They see this as an attack on Manny and not about preserving the purity of the biggest match probably ever. This is the same type of stance fans took in 1998 (including me) when we were amazed by Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa chasing Roger Maris' homerun record (the most famed record in ALL sports). I still remember being a dumbass kid watching that race getting pissed whenever people would accuse my boy Sosa of roiding (who had never failed any test; because there was no policy on roids back then). Come to find out years later that the whole thing was pretty much a sham because both guys were roided up most likely. Now all of us fans want asteriks next to the record and both guys not in the Hall of Fame because of roids and what not.

    These guys on here are just like us baseball fans back in 1998. Denial and anger. I'm not saying Manny is roiding but this is ALL too familiar. We see ALL these guys accused of roids and they come out and they say "I don't know what roids are", "I did it through hard work (which BTW is still semi true, PEDs can't turn all of us into Hall of Fame caliber players, you still have to have natural god given talent and an insane work ethic to be elite, PEDs or not)", etc...and then five years later you find out that they were on some roid list, or some investigative reporter did some searching and found a shipment of roids to the guys house, or the government busted a PED dealer and a guys name was on the list for roids, or the guy tests positive for roids, or the guy shared this information with too many people and someone sells a story for money.

    I'm all for cleaning up this sport's testing policies now. I'm not going to support loopholes just because they are there. Instead of all these whispers and rumors, there will actually be tests to prove that both guys are clean, and not all of us are supporting that? Come on...

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