Pacquiao successfully files law suit

[generalbulldog]

This fight was going to be our generations Ali vs. Frazier and instead it's gonna be Rowe vs.Wade fuckin disgrace

Now as much as I wanted to see this fight, no way does it equal Ali-Frazier. That was 2 undefeated HW champions squaring off.

At most this fight would have been another Hagler-Leonard. A classic come forward fighter against a slick boxer.

[killersheep]

This fight was going to be our generations Ali vs. Frazier and instead it's gonna be Rowe vs.Wade fuckin disgrace

Now as much as I wanted to see this fight, no way does it equal Ali-Frazier. That was 2 undefeated HW champions squaring off.

At most this fight would have been another Hagler-Leonard. A classic come forward fighter against a slick boxer.

I meant in terms of notoriety

The current p4p vs. prior p4p. The best defensive fighter of today vs. the best offensive fighter of today. The two highest paid fighters in the sport. This would have been with out a doubt the biggest event of this generation.

[mnmc10]

i cant find the logic here, if pac is really juicing then why not just go off peds for this fight go on take the tests youll test neg ofcourse then fight pbf. if he loses then be it, rather than cancel the fight then people will think that your guilty.

it just doesnt make sense at all, so thats what led me to believe that this is just hype for the fight.

[generalbulldog]

i cant find the logic here, if pac is really juicing then why not just go off peds for this fight go on take the tests youll test neg ofcourse then fight pbf. if he loses then be it, rather than cancel the fight then people will think that your guilty.

it just doesnt make sense at all, so thats what led me to believe that this is just hype for the fight.

Because Pac is an idiot. When you have blueboy the fatass as you're co-trainer and advisor what do you expect?

Pacquiao probably had too many dumbass advisors giving him bad advice,and just look at Pacquiao he's not that smart himself.

[killersheep]

I'm still waiting for this to be spun against Mayweather, you know it's coming.

[p4pking]

It's pretty well impossible to defend Pacquiao's actions as a fan of the sport foremost... A Law suit, really? This drug test stipulation went from having the potential to set a GREAT precident for boxing, to a god awful one. How in the hell is Manny expecting to win this case? So what Mayweather went on record accusing Pacquiao of steroids, it's boxing for christs sake, there are so many examples of atrocious deflamation of character throughout the sport it's not even worth mentioning. This is absolutely a lose-lose for Pacquiao, he stands to gain absolutely nothing in this case, even if he were to win it wouldn't validate his being drug free in the slightest, the fact that he is taking legal action in the first place rather than agree to blood testing is the closest thing to confessing his guilt as far as I'm concerned.

[killersheep]

It's pretty well impossible to defend Pacquiao's actions as a fan of the sport foremost... A Law suit, really? This drug test stipulation went from having the potential to set a GREAT precident for boxing, to a god awful one. How in the hell is Manny expecting to win this case? So what Mayweather went on record accusing Pacquiao of steroids, it's boxing for christs sake, there are so many examples of atrocious deflamation of character throughout the sport it's not even worth mentioning. This is absolutely a lose-lose for Pacquiao, he stands to gain absolutely nothing in this case, even if he were to win it wouldn't validate his being drug free in the slightest, the fact that he is taking legal action in the first place rather than agree to blood testing is the closest thing to confessing his guilt as far as I'm concerned.

Mayorga told ODLH he was going to fuck his wife and that didn't even end up in court.

This is starting to fall in lock-step with what generalulldog was saying.

Clemens files defamation lawsuit against ex-trainer McNamee - MLB - ESPN

"Clemens filed the suit Sunday night in Harris County District Court in Texas, listing 15 alleged statements McNamee made to the baseball drug investigator George Mitchell. Clemens claimed the statements were "untrue and defamatory.""

because

"Clemens' good reputation has been severely injured," the suit said. "McNamee's false allegations have also caused Clemens to suffer mental anguish, shame, public humiliation and embarrassment."

"the testing program we have set up in Major League Baseball is great," he said.

[match]

Other than Mike Leach, I didn't think it was possible for someone to fukk up their own career as badly as Manny seems to be doing now.

[Gandalf]

I'm still waiting for this to be spun against Mayweather, you know it's coming.

I don't think it's possible to spin it. I was one of Mayweathers biggest critics, but there is just no way to get on his case over this carry on. A request for absolute fairness in a fight is not something that can really be called into question, certainly not if you are a person of principles and with the knowledge that there are serious loopholes. Manny's sacrifice of the payday of a lifetime because he won't take a random test, is just incredible. And to try and sue everyone over it? Pac's team have become increasingly difficult to deal with in negotiations over time. But in this instance they have truly lost the plot.

All of Manny's supporters need to take a cold, hard look at the situation and see it for what it is. Manny Pac refuses the fight we all want to see because he isn't willing to provide random checks. No other opponent should really fight him either, unless he is willing to provide the tests for them. If that means Manny has to retire, then so be it. I have no interest in seeing him fight again the way things stand. His reputation has taken a serious hit. Manny might make a pretty good politician judging by his recent behaviour. He is able to smile for the cameras and say its all down to god, but when it comes down to the serious questions he is simply unable to back it up. All it takes is a little bit of blood.

I hope he enjoys his adventure in the courtrooms. After all that's obviously the way to solve everything.

[generalbulldog]

I thought eventually Manny Pac would agree, but now?

Where the hell are the Pac nuthuggers to defend this bullshit?

[josef4334]

I thought eventually Manny Pac would agree, but now?

Where the hell are the Pac nuthuggers to defend this bullshit?

why do you think all of us agree to this move? i want to see the fight happen. i really do. im really disappointed in both parties particularly to camp pacquiao for not killing their pride.

on a side note. its funny how an accusation of a known drug dealer, peddler, and drug user could turn boxing upside down. i wish the fight happens tho.

[killersheep]

I'm still waiting for this to be spun against Mayweather, you know it's coming.

I don't think it's possible to spin it. I was one of Mayweathers biggest critics, but there is just no way to get on his case over this carry on. A request for absolute fairness in a fight is not something that can really be called into question, certainly not if you are a person of principles and with the knowledge that there are serious loopholes. Manny's sacrifice of the payday of a lifetime because he won't take a random test, is just incredible. And to try and sue everyone over it? Pac's team have become increasingly difficult to deal with in negotiations over time. But in this instance they have truly lost the plot.

All of Manny's supporters need to take a cold, hard look at the situation and see it for what it is. Manny Pac refuses the fight we all want to see because he isn't willing to provide random checks. No other opponent should really fight him either, unless he is willing to provide the tests for them. If that means Manny has to retire, then so be it. I have no interest in seeing him fight again the way things stand. His reputation has taken a serious hit. Manny might make a pretty good politician judging by his recent behaviour. He is able to smile for the cameras and say its all down to god, but when it comes down to the serious questions he is simply unable to back it up. All it takes is a little bit of blood.

I hope he enjoys his adventure in the courtrooms. After all that's obviously the way to solve everything.

O RLY?

Here's the headlines at Philboxing

"Manny Pacquiao's lawyer: Suit against Floyd Mayweather, others could be worth 'millions'"

"HAPPY NEW YEAR TEAM MAYWEATHER, NOW ENJOY TODDLING IN YOUR OWN MUCK"

I mean seriously here is their equivalent to this thread.

Pacland's Philippine Boxing Forum • View topic - Pacquiao Files Federal Defamation Lawsuit Against Mayweather

[Gandalf]

I'm still waiting for this to be spun against Mayweather, you know it's coming.

I don't think it's possible to spin it. I was one of Mayweathers biggest critics, but there is just no way to get on his case over this carry on. A request for absolute fairness in a fight is not something that can really be called into question, certainly not if you are a person of principles and with the knowledge that there are serious loopholes. Manny's sacrifice of the payday of a lifetime because he won't take a random test, is just incredible. And to try and sue everyone over it? Pac's team have become increasingly difficult to deal with in negotiations over time. But in this instance they have truly lost the plot.

All of Manny's supporters need to take a cold, hard look at the situation and see it for what it is. Manny Pac refuses the fight we all want to see because he isn't willing to provide random checks. No other opponent should really fight him either, unless he is willing to provide the tests for them. If that means Manny has to retire, then so be it. I have no interest in seeing him fight again the way things stand. His reputation has taken a serious hit. Manny might make a pretty good politician judging by his recent behaviour. He is able to smile for the cameras and say its all down to god, but when it comes down to the serious questions he is simply unable to back it up. All it takes is a little bit of blood.

I hope he enjoys his adventure in the courtrooms. After all that's obviously the way to solve everything.

O RLY?

Here's the headlines at Philboxing

"Manny Pacquiao's lawyer: Suit against Floyd Mayweather, others could be worth 'millions'"

"HAPPY NEW YEAR TEAM MAYWEATHER, NOW ENJOY TODDLING IN YOUR OWN MUCK"

I mean seriously here is their equivalent to this thread.

Pacland's Philippine Boxing Forum • View topic - Pacquiao Files Federal Defamation Lawsuit Against Mayweather

Some of those people are seriously off their rockers. I wish some of our more demented types would plant themselves over there permanently.

[fan johnny]

Althougth there is a amount specified in the suit, There is something called punitive damages and or actual damages. It could be called something else but I'm pretty sure there is more than one type of award if the case is won. The Pacquiao's Lawyer might be talking about the one not listed. Mayweather's insistence on having testing done outside of Boxing could actually be used against him as proof of losses using the guaranteed amount especially if he put his name to paper on the other issues. I'm pretty sure everyone will agree that Pacquiao's reputation has suffered greatly because Mayweather's insistence to have additional testing done. People will try to argue that it's because Pacquiao would not agree to the random part of the tests but the truth is, it is all additional testing. The court should view it as such, unless his Lawyer is able to spin it without showing Mayweather is guilty implying that Pacquiao is using PED's. It a catch-22 situation. So ya the case could possibly be worth millions.

[killersheep]

Althougth there is a amount specified in the suit, There is something called punitive damages and or actual damages. It could be called something else but I'm pretty sure there is more than one type of award if the case is won. The Pacquiao's Lawyer might be talking about the one not listed. Mayweather's insistence on having testing done outside of Boxing could actually be used against him as proof of losses using the guaranteed amount especially if he put his name to paper on the other issues. I'm pretty sure everyone will agree that Pacquiao's reputation has suffered greatly because Mayweather's insistence to have additional testing done. People will try to argue that it's because Pacquiao would not agree to the random part of the tests but the truth is, it is all additional testing. The court should view it as such, unless his Lawyer is able to spin it without showing Mayweather is guilty implying that Pacquiao is using PED's. It a catch-22 situation. So ya the case could possibly be worth millions.

Do you really think he's going to make 40 million off this? An extreme increase in performance is a reason stated by the WADA for doing extra testing of an athlete, the NSAC defers to the WADA for their drug screening rules. Pacquiao has been untouchable in his last few fights in higher weight classes.
Mayweather Sr. thinks he's on steroids, so the Mayweather camp says ok prove you're clean and we'll make the fight happen. And then the lawsuit came, not after the accusation, but after they asked for a drug test.

Who cares about the case and how much money he can make?

He just ruined the chance for the fight. As of March 17th Pacquiao starts his political campaign, that's it for boxing assuming he wins the election. With all the blind devotion he gets he should be easy victor.