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    Default Re: Pacquiao successfully files law suit

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    I'm still waiting for this to be spun against Mayweather, you know it's coming.
    I don't think it's possible to spin it. I was one of Mayweathers biggest critics, but there is just no way to get on his case over this carry on. A request for absolute fairness in a fight is not something that can really be called into question, certainly not if you are a person of principles and with the knowledge that there are serious loopholes. Manny's sacrifice of the payday of a lifetime because he won't take a random test, is just incredible. And to try and sue everyone over it? Pac's team have become increasingly difficult to deal with in negotiations over time. But in this instance they have truly lost the plot.

    All of Manny's supporters need to take a cold, hard look at the situation and see it for what it is. Manny Pac refuses the fight we all want to see because he isn't willing to provide random checks. No other opponent should really fight him either, unless he is willing to provide the tests for them. If that means Manny has to retire, then so be it. I have no interest in seeing him fight again the way things stand. His reputation has taken a serious hit. Manny might make a pretty good politician judging by his recent behaviour. He is able to smile for the cameras and say its all down to god, but when it comes down to the serious questions he is simply unable to back it up. All it takes is a little bit of blood.

    I hope he enjoys his adventure in the courtrooms. After all that's obviously the way to solve everything.

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    I thought eventually Manny Pac would agree, but now?

    Where the hell are the Pac nuthuggers to defend this bullshit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    I thought eventually Manny Pac would agree, but now?

    Where the hell are the Pac nuthuggers to defend this bullshit?
    why do you think all of us agree to this move? i want to see the fight happen. i really do. im really disappointed in both parties particularly to camp pacquiao for not killing their pride.

    on a side note. its funny how an accusation of a known drug dealer, peddler, and drug user could turn boxing upside down. i wish the fight happens tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by josef4334 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    I thought eventually Manny Pac would agree, but now?

    Where the hell are the Pac nuthuggers to defend this bullshit?
    why do you think all of us agree to this move? i want to see the fight happen. i really do. im really disappointed in both parties particularly to camp pacquiao for not killing their pride.

    on a side note. its funny how an accusation of a known drug dealer, peddler, and drug user could turn boxing upside down. i wish the fight happens tho.
    I agree. I've said before that I am very surprised how much traction the Mayweather's accusations have gotten. However, I think Pacquiaio's reaction and handling of the situation are primarily responsible for this bullshit getting blown all out of proportion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josef4334 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    I thought eventually Manny Pac would agree, but now?

    Where the hell are the Pac nuthuggers to defend this bullshit?
    why do you think all of us agree to this move? i want to see the fight happen. i really do. im really disappointed in both parties particularly to camp pacquiao for not killing their pride.

    on a side note. its funny how an accusation of a known drug dealer, peddler, and drug user could turn boxing upside down. i wish the fight happens tho.
    Yes we all know about Mayweather Sr. shady character and I didn't really care about it and thought his claims were ridiculous, but ever since Pac has declined to have random blood tests, now those accusations are not baseless anymore, get it?

    Now old man Floyd is not so crazy and delusional anymore. It seems at this point that what Floyd Sr. is saying is correct. The guy is a cheater.

    As everyone has said, if you're not guilty why not have random blood tests? Is the p4p king really afraid of needles when he has tats everywhere on his body? Is it really going to drain him when he had his blood drawn 2 weeks before the Hatton fight? It's suspicious.
    Last edited by generalbulldog; 12-31-2009 at 05:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    I'm still waiting for this to be spun against Mayweather, you know it's coming.
    I don't think it's possible to spin it. I was one of Mayweathers biggest critics, but there is just no way to get on his case over this carry on. A request for absolute fairness in a fight is not something that can really be called into question, certainly not if you are a person of principles and with the knowledge that there are serious loopholes. Manny's sacrifice of the payday of a lifetime because he won't take a random test, is just incredible. And to try and sue everyone over it? Pac's team have become increasingly difficult to deal with in negotiations over time. But in this instance they have truly lost the plot.

    All of Manny's supporters need to take a cold, hard look at the situation and see it for what it is. Manny Pac refuses the fight we all want to see because he isn't willing to provide random checks. No other opponent should really fight him either, unless he is willing to provide the tests for them. If that means Manny has to retire, then so be it. I have no interest in seeing him fight again the way things stand. His reputation has taken a serious hit. Manny might make a pretty good politician judging by his recent behaviour. He is able to smile for the cameras and say its all down to god, but when it comes down to the serious questions he is simply unable to back it up. All it takes is a little bit of blood.

    I hope he enjoys his adventure in the courtrooms. After all that's obviously the way to solve everything.
    O RLY?

    Here's the headlines at Philboxing

    "Manny Pacquiao's lawyer: Suit against Floyd Mayweather, others could be worth 'millions'"

    "HAPPY NEW YEAR TEAM MAYWEATHER, NOW ENJOY TODDLING IN YOUR OWN MUCK"

    I mean seriously here is their equivalent to this thread.

    Pacland's Philippine Boxing Forum • View topic - Pacquiao Files Federal Defamation Lawsuit Against Mayweather
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    I'm still waiting for this to be spun against Mayweather, you know it's coming.
    I don't think it's possible to spin it. I was one of Mayweathers biggest critics, but there is just no way to get on his case over this carry on. A request for absolute fairness in a fight is not something that can really be called into question, certainly not if you are a person of principles and with the knowledge that there are serious loopholes. Manny's sacrifice of the payday of a lifetime because he won't take a random test, is just incredible. And to try and sue everyone over it? Pac's team have become increasingly difficult to deal with in negotiations over time. But in this instance they have truly lost the plot.

    All of Manny's supporters need to take a cold, hard look at the situation and see it for what it is. Manny Pac refuses the fight we all want to see because he isn't willing to provide random checks. No other opponent should really fight him either, unless he is willing to provide the tests for them. If that means Manny has to retire, then so be it. I have no interest in seeing him fight again the way things stand. His reputation has taken a serious hit. Manny might make a pretty good politician judging by his recent behaviour. He is able to smile for the cameras and say its all down to god, but when it comes down to the serious questions he is simply unable to back it up. All it takes is a little bit of blood.

    I hope he enjoys his adventure in the courtrooms. After all that's obviously the way to solve everything.
    O RLY?

    Here's the headlines at Philboxing

    "Manny Pacquiao's lawyer: Suit against Floyd Mayweather, others could be worth 'millions'"

    "HAPPY NEW YEAR TEAM MAYWEATHER, NOW ENJOY TODDLING IN YOUR OWN MUCK"

    I mean seriously here is their equivalent to this thread.

    Pacland's Philippine Boxing Forum • View topic - Pacquiao Files Federal Defamation Lawsuit Against Mayweather
    Some of those people are seriously off their rockers. I wish some of our more demented types would plant themselves over there permanently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post

    I don't think it's possible to spin it. I was one of Mayweathers biggest critics, but there is just no way to get on his case over this carry on. A request for absolute fairness in a fight is not something that can really be called into question, certainly not if you are a person of principles and with the knowledge that there are serious loopholes. Manny's sacrifice of the payday of a lifetime because he won't take a random test, is just incredible. And to try and sue everyone over it? Pac's team have become increasingly difficult to deal with in negotiations over time. But in this instance they have truly lost the plot.

    All of Manny's supporters need to take a cold, hard look at the situation and see it for what it is. Manny Pac refuses the fight we all want to see because he isn't willing to provide random checks. No other opponent should really fight him either, unless he is willing to provide the tests for them. If that means Manny has to retire, then so be it. I have no interest in seeing him fight again the way things stand. His reputation has taken a serious hit. Manny might make a pretty good politician judging by his recent behaviour. He is able to smile for the cameras and say its all down to god, but when it comes down to the serious questions he is simply unable to back it up. All it takes is a little bit of blood.

    I hope he enjoys his adventure in the courtrooms. After all that's obviously the way to solve everything.
    O RLY?

    Here's the headlines at Philboxing

    "Manny Pacquiao's lawyer: Suit against Floyd Mayweather, others could be worth 'millions'"

    "HAPPY NEW YEAR TEAM MAYWEATHER, NOW ENJOY TODDLING IN YOUR OWN MUCK"

    I mean seriously here is their equivalent to this thread.

    Pacland's Philippine Boxing Forum • View topic - Pacquiao Files Federal Defamation Lawsuit Against Mayweather
    Some of those people are seriously off their rockers. I wish some of our more demented types would plant themselves over there permanently.
    LOL! I was going to say the same thing:

    The guy with the dragonball avatar really shed some light on the situation for me:
    Quote Originally Posted by gobitz
    Mayweathers are the one paying the bills ... high profile lawsuits like this are in favor for the lawyers because of the free world wide media exposure... If I'm Pacman's Attorney I would give it FREE OF CHARGE.... just give a good camera angles ....

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    For a public figure to win a defamation suit in the USA is off the charts difficult, because the 1st ammnedment is arguably the central American value. Virtually every benefit of doubt is given to the person making the accusations, as the constitution demands a free exchange of ideas.

    Specifically, the judge has to find actual malice, meaning PBF & Co had to "know the statement was false." I suppose if someone said "I saw Manny inject" and that can be proved false Pac would have a case; but mere speculation that he takes steroids is indeed constitutionally protected speech. After all, many people have speculated about many athletes even when they had yet (or had never) tested positive: (hollyfied, Woods, Dykstra, Sosa, every offensive lineman in the NFL, etc) and never had to pay a dime in court.

    Pac appears to be reating like Clemons, thinking his faithful fans will assume if he's willing to file a suit, he must be innocent.The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao successfully files law suit

    It's a jungle out there. Seriously Manny, get off your high horse and just fight like what you always say.

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    The poverty and hardship that the people in his country who idolise him have had to endure during the tsunami etc... and this guy won't fight to earn $40m

    What an absolute joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    The poverty and hardship that the people in his country who idolise him have had to endure during the tsunami etc... and this guy won't fight to earn $40m

    What an absolute joke.
    why is he a joke? because he wants to file a lawsuit against people that try to ruin his credibility without any evidence? and he has helped his people before and even after all this nonsense so whats your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by josef4334 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    The poverty and hardship that the people in his country who idolise him have had to endure during the tsunami etc... and this guy won't fight to earn $40m

    What an absolute joke.
    why is he a joke? because he wants to file a lawsuit against people that try to ruin his credibility without any evidence? and he has helped his people before and even after all this nonsense so whats your point?
    What and the lawsuit is going to return the credibility? It's not going to change anyone's minds win or lose. People that support Pac through thick and thin will continue to do so. People that have doubts because he won't take a drug test will continue to do so. Nothing changes as far as his credibility goes. Just a money grab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by titleist905t View Post
    It's a jungle out there. Seriously Manny, get off your high horse and just fight like what you always say.
    That's the thing he usually does his talking with his fists not his lawyers.
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    Its sounding more and more like Manny is really suing for definition of character.

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