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    Default Re: Why is pac being crucified on saddo boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grinch View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    This is like herding cats.....get me a kleenex and a pint of cherry vanilla while we're at it.Oh and the crucifix has zero to do with Pacquiao who is an outstanding fighter...and more to do with fan boys and spawning fluffers.
    Interesting.

    So your cynicism leads you to believe that the fight is actually gonna happen and that negotiations aren't completely dead in the water?
    I felt that way until very recently (as in today), now my optimism about the fight being made has begun to fade.

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    Default Re: Why is pac being crucified on saddo boxing?

    because he is a filipino, asian not american british western.

    pure and simple racial discrimination.

    they say they want a level playing field?

    Floyd is an american based in nevada.
    where is the fight planned to be held - NEVADA USA
    who do they want to do the testing? US olympic testers

    why not try it the other way around?

    let the fight be held here in the philippines? testing to be done by our local agencies.

    thats level playing field right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacQ View Post
    because he is a filipino, asian not american british western.

    pure and simple racial discrimination.

    they say they want a level playing field?

    Floyd is an american based in nevada.
    where is the fight planned to be held - NEVADA USA
    who do they want to do the testing? US olympic testers

    why not try it the other way around?

    let the fight be held here in the philippines? testing to be done by our local agencies.

    thats level playing field right?
    So Pacquiao won't take a random drug screen cause people on here are racist?


    I guess you win
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    Quote Originally Posted by pacQ View Post
    because he is a filipino, asian not american british western.

    pure and simple racial discrimination.

    they say they want a level playing field?

    Floyd is an american based in nevada.
    where is the fight planned to be held - NEVADA USA
    who do they want to do the testing? US olympic testers

    why not try it the other way around?

    let the fight be held here in the philippines? testing to be done by our local agencies.

    thats level playing field right?


    There are few things more pathetic than a person who throws around baseless accusations of racism because they have no other way of justifying their argument.

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    Default Re: Why is pac being crucified on saddo boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pacQ View Post
    because he is a filipino, asian not american british western.

    pure and simple racial discrimination.

    they say they want a level playing field?

    Floyd is an american based in nevada.
    where is the fight planned to be held - NEVADA USA
    who do they want to do the testing? US olympic testers

    why not try it the other way around?

    let the fight be held here in the philippines? testing to be done by our local agencies.

    thats level playing field right?


    There are few things more pathetic than a person who throws around baseless accusations of racism because they have no other way of justifying their argument.
    just a dose of your own medicine, baseless accusations, judging a person without any evidence at all.

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    Default Re: Why is pac being crucified on saddo boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by pacQ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pacQ View Post
    because he is a filipino, asian not american british western.

    pure and simple racial discrimination.

    they say they want a level playing field?

    Floyd is an american based in nevada.
    where is the fight planned to be held - NEVADA USA
    who do they want to do the testing? US olympic testers

    why not try it the other way around?

    let the fight be held here in the philippines? testing to be done by our local agencies.

    thats level playing field right?


    There are few things more pathetic than a person who throws around baseless accusations of racism because they have no other way of justifying their argument.
    just a dose of your own medicine, baseless accusations, judging a person without any evidence at all.
    Throw stones in a glass house much?Manny may be the cash cow but here in the States is where the engine is and frankly many great come to flourish and break into the mainstream.Poor Manny is a hostage to his own succsess,I'm sure he can handle it. Racial divides exceed the sports world and people have died for decades over them...dont be so cheap and melee mouthed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacQ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pacQ View Post
    because he is a filipino, asian not american british western.

    pure and simple racial discrimination.

    they say they want a level playing field?

    Floyd is an american based in nevada.
    where is the fight planned to be held - NEVADA USA
    who do they want to do the testing? US olympic testers

    why not try it the other way around?

    let the fight be held here in the philippines? testing to be done by our local agencies.

    thats level playing field right?


    There are few things more pathetic than a person who throws around baseless accusations of racism because they have no other way of justifying their argument.
    just a dose of your own medicine, baseless accusations, judging a person without any evidence at all.
    Show me where I have made a single "baseless accusation". I have frequently said that I don't think that Manny Pacquiao is any more or less suspect of using performance enhancing drugs than any other elite-level athlete. That he is behaving in a suspicious manner is, to me, undebatable. I have also expressed my surprise as to how effective these accusations have been.

    So go ahead and show me where I judged Pacquaio without any evidence. I have a feeling this might take a while .

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pacQ View Post
    because he is a filipino, asian not american british western.

    pure and simple racial discrimination.

    they say they want a level playing field?

    Floyd is an american based in nevada.
    where is the fight planned to be held - NEVADA USA
    who do they want to do the testing? US olympic testers

    why not try it the other way around?

    let the fight be held here in the philippines? testing to be done by our local agencies.

    thats level playing field right?


    There are few things more pathetic than a person who throws around baseless accusations of racism because they have no other way of justifying their argument.
    In a way I don't think it's baseless race card playing from them. Asians as in the orientals are seen as physically inferior as human beings in terms of athletics and manhood in the west. Where do you think the small, weak, little dick generalities comes from? Even this place has topics started on it by longterm respected members. So I can see why the Flips/Asians might get a little defensive when 1 of their own is the top fighter in the sport and everyone questions his accomplishments.

    BTW, I'm just trying to look at it from their shoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pacQ View Post
    because he is a filipino, asian not american british western.

    pure and simple racial discrimination.

    they say they want a level playing field?

    Floyd is an american based in nevada.
    where is the fight planned to be held - NEVADA USA
    who do they want to do the testing? US olympic testers

    why not try it the other way around?

    let the fight be held here in the philippines? testing to be done by our local agencies.

    thats level playing field right?


    There are few things more pathetic than a person who throws around baseless accusations of racism because they have no other way of justifying their argument.
    In a way I don't think it's baseless race card playing from them. Asians as in the orientals are seen as physically inferior as human beings in terms of athletics and manhood in the west. Where do you think the small, weak, little dick generalities comes from? Even this place has topics started on it by longterm respected members. So I can see why the Flips/Asians might get a little defensive when 1 of their own is the top fighter in the sport and everyone questions his accomplishments.

    BTW, I'm just trying to look at it from their shoes.
    Only a complete racist would consider Asian people inferior in any way. It's not a common belief at all where I live. We have a massive Asian population here and there is very little racism towards them in the general population (by that I mean no more than what is experienced by other ethnic groups). Do some people look at Asian's with derision? Certainly, but the number is few and it's certainly not endemic to the west like you describe it.
    Last edited by CFH; 01-03-2010 at 05:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post



    There are few things more pathetic than a person who throws around baseless accusations of racism because they have no other way of justifying their argument.
    In a way I don't think it's baseless race card playing from them. Asians as in the orientals are seen as physically inferior as human beings in terms of athletics and manhood in the west. Where do you think the small, weak, little dick generalities comes from? Even this place has topics started on it by longterm respected members. So I can see why the Flips/Asians might get a little defensive when 1 of their own is the top fighter in the sport and everyone questions his accomplishments.

    BTW, I'm just trying to look at it from their shoes.
    Only a complete racist would consider Asian people inferior in any way. It's not a common belief at all where I live. We have a massive Asian population here and there is very little racism towards them in the general population (by that I mean no more than what is experienced by other ethnic groups). Do some people look at Asian's with derision? Certainly, but the number is few and it's certainly not endemic to the west like you describe it.
    I'm just trying to look at it from their eyes as in why some would use the race card. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. Because the USA has a little bit more derison for them and their physical, athletic abilities, and manhood. Maybe a place like Canada and a few countries in western europe doesnt. But the USA is the leader of the Western world and it's representative and largest country. What it says goes and it represents the west.

    ANd as an American I know this country has a derision for them, their countries and their people. You really don't think America's wars with them in China, N. Korea, Vietnam, (proxy wars in the cold war), and the Phillipines (early 20th century) hasn't shaped America's view of them? It has, it's represented in society, media (tv, newspapers, films) and a plethora of other mediums.
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    Default Re: Why is pac being crucified on saddo boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post

    In a way I don't think it's baseless race card playing from them. Asians as in the orientals are seen as physically inferior as human beings in terms of athletics and manhood in the west. Where do you think the small, weak, little dick generalities comes from? Even this place has topics started on it by longterm respected members. So I can see why the Flips/Asians might get a little defensive when 1 of their own is the top fighter in the sport and everyone questions his accomplishments.

    BTW, I'm just trying to look at it from their shoes.
    Only a complete racist would consider Asian people inferior in any way. It's not a common belief at all where I live. We have a massive Asian population here and there is very little racism towards them in the general population (by that I mean no more than what is experienced by other ethnic groups). Do some people look at Asian's with derision? Certainly, but the number is few and it's certainly not endemic to the west like you describe it.
    I'm just trying to look at it from their eyes as in why some would use the race card. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. Because the USA has a little bit more derison for them and their physical, athletic abilities, and manhood. Maybe a place like Canada and a few countries in western europe doesnt. But the USA is the leader of the Western world and it's representative and largest country. What it says goes and it represents the west.

    ANd as an American I know this country has a derision for them, their countries and their people. You really don't think America's wars with them in China, N. Korea, Vietnam, (proxy wars in the cold war), and the Phillipines (early 20th century) hasn't shaped America's view of them? It has, it's represented in society, media (tv, newspapers, films) and a plethora of other mediums.
    Thread's getting out of hand I think. Was a pretty good read until I came to these exchanges. I understand your way of thinking, but as a non American, I could say that your country has a derision not just on Asians but also on other non Caucasian races if I go by your way of thinking. It's early morning here and I'm just getting off work, so my apologies if my post seems muddled. Just saying that you're not doing your country any good by stating what you just said, at least for me it's not.

    As an aside, America never had an open war with China. They were helping them fight off the Japanese back in WW2. Sorry for being way OT, but I wasn't expecting to see these kinds of posts in a boxing forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post

    In a way I don't think it's baseless race card playing from them. Asians as in the orientals are seen as physically inferior as human beings in terms of athletics and manhood in the west. Where do you think the small, weak, little dick generalities comes from? Even this place has topics started on it by longterm respected members. So I can see why the Flips/Asians might get a little defensive when 1 of their own is the top fighter in the sport and everyone questions his accomplishments.

    BTW, I'm just trying to look at it from their shoes.
    Only a complete racist would consider Asian people inferior in any way. It's not a common belief at all where I live. We have a massive Asian population here and there is very little racism towards them in the general population (by that I mean no more than what is experienced by other ethnic groups). Do some people look at Asian's with derision? Certainly, but the number is few and it's certainly not endemic to the west like you describe it.
    I'm just trying to look at it from their eyes as in why some would use the race card. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. Because the USA has a little bit more derison for them and their physical, athletic abilities, and manhood. Maybe a place like Canada and a few countries in western europe doesnt. But the USA is the leader of the Western world and it's representative and largest country. What it says goes and it represents the west.

    ANd as an American I know this country has a derision for them, their countries and their people. You really don't think America's wars with them in China, N. Korea, Vietnam, (proxy wars in the cold war), and the Phillipines (early 20th century) hasn't shaped America's view of them? It has, it's represented in society, media (tv, newspapers, films) and a plethora of other mediums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pacQ View Post
    because he is a filipino, asian not american british western.

    pure and simple racial discrimination.

    they say they want a level playing field?

    Floyd is an american based in nevada.
    where is the fight planned to be held - NEVADA USA
    who do they want to do the testing? US olympic testers

    why not try it the other way around?

    let the fight be held here in the philippines? testing to be done by our local agencies.

    thats level playing field right?
    I gave you some neg rep for that and I gave you a good reason why. You are the only person claiming racial discrimination around here. You are also the only one using racial slurs upon other posters as well. There is only one racist that I see around here and that is....you.

    This issue has nothing to do with race, so open your eyes a little and look around a little more closely.

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    PAc could be a white american or a blue smurf it wouldn't change the fact that based on dubious arguments, he refuses 40 millions against a tea spoon of blood. Nothing to do with racism, really. Thus said, I am more than willing to take his place, as I stated, you can take a blood test every day, dress me with a pink skirt and call me Suzanne. I won't win though but hell, 40 millions is a good reward for an old school beating, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    PAc could be a white american or a blue smurf it wouldn't change the fact that based on dubious arguments, he refuses 40 millions against a tea spoon of blood. Nothing to do with racism, really. Thus said, I am more than willing to take his place, as I stated, you can take a blood test every day, dress me with a pink skirt and call me Suzanne. I won't win though but hell, 40 millions is a good reward for an old school beating, no?
    i'd do that too in a blink but unlike us pacquiao is hoping to win. lol

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