Pacquiao successfully files law suit

[TheBranMan]

I don't think it's possible to spin it. I was one of Mayweathers biggest critics, but there is just no way to get on his case over this carry on. A request for absolute fairness in a fight is not something that can really be called into question, certainly not if you are a person of principles and with the knowledge that there are serious loopholes. Manny's sacrifice of the payday of a lifetime because he won't take a random test, is just incredible. And to try and sue everyone over it? Pac's team have become increasingly difficult to deal with in negotiations over time. But in this instance they have truly lost the plot.

All of Manny's supporters need to take a cold, hard look at the situation and see it for what it is. Manny Pac refuses the fight we all want to see because he isn't willing to provide random checks. No other opponent should really fight him either, unless he is willing to provide the tests for them. If that means Manny has to retire, then so be it. I have no interest in seeing him fight again the way things stand. His reputation has taken a serious hit. Manny might make a pretty good politician judging by his recent behaviour. He is able to smile for the cameras and say its all down to god, but when it comes down to the serious questions he is simply unable to back it up. All it takes is a little bit of blood.

I hope he enjoys his adventure in the courtrooms. After all that's obviously the way to solve everything.

O RLY?

Here's the headlines at Philboxing

"Manny Pacquiao's lawyer: Suit against Floyd Mayweather, others could be worth 'millions'"

"HAPPY NEW YEAR TEAM MAYWEATHER, NOW ENJOY TODDLING IN YOUR OWN MUCK"

I mean seriously here is their equivalent to this thread.

Pacland's Philippine Boxing Forum • View topic - Pacquiao Files Federal Defamation Lawsuit Against Mayweather

Some of those people are seriously off their rockers. I wish some of our more demented types would plant themselves over there permanently.

LOL! I was going to say the same thing:

The guy with the dragonball avatar really shed some light on the situation for me:

Mayweathers are the one paying the bills ... high profile lawsuits like this are in favor for the lawyers because of the free world wide media exposure... If I'm Pacman's Attorney I would give it FREE OF CHARGE.... just give a good camera angles ....

[josef4334]

I thought eventually Manny Pac would agree, but now?

Where the hell are the Pac nuthuggers to defend this bullshit?

why do you think all of us agree to this move? i want to see the fight happen. i really do. im really disappointed in both parties particularly to camp pacquiao for not killing their pride.

on a side note. its funny how an accusation of a known drug dealer, peddler, and drug user could turn boxing upside down. i wish the fight happens tho.

[CFH]

I thought eventually Manny Pac would agree, but now?

Where the hell are the Pac nuthuggers to defend this bullshit?

why do you think all of us agree to this move? i want to see the fight happen. i really do. im really disappointed in both parties particularly to camp pacquiao for not killing their pride.

on a side note. its funny how an accusation of a known drug dealer, peddler, and drug user could turn boxing upside down. i wish the fight happens tho.

I agree. I've said before that I am very surprised how much traction the Mayweather's accusations have gotten. However, I think Pacquiaio's reaction and handling of the situation are primarily responsible for this bullshit getting blown all out of proportion.

[generalbulldog]

I thought eventually Manny Pac would agree, but now?

Where the hell are the Pac nuthuggers to defend this bullshit?

why do you think all of us agree to this move? i want to see the fight happen. i really do. im really disappointed in both parties particularly to camp pacquiao for not killing their pride.

on a side note. its funny how an accusation of a known drug dealer, peddler, and drug user could turn boxing upside down. i wish the fight happens tho.

Yes we all know about Mayweather Sr. shady character and I didn't really care about it and thought his claims were ridiculous, but ever since Pac has declined to have random blood tests, now those accusations are not baseless anymore, get it?

Now old man Floyd is not so crazy and delusional anymore. It seems at this point that what Floyd Sr. is saying is correct. The guy is a cheater.

As everyone has said, if you're not guilty why not have random blood tests? Is the p4p king really afraid of needles when he has tats everywhere on his body? Is it really going to drain him when he had his blood drawn 2 weeks before the Hatton fight? It's suspicious.

[Manju]

For a public figure to win a defamation suit in the USA is off the charts difficult, because the 1st ammnedment is arguably the central American value. Virtually every benefit of doubt is given to the person making the accusations, as the constitution demands a free exchange of ideas.

Specifically, the judge has to find actual malice, meaning PBF & Co had to "know the statement was false." I suppose if someone said "I saw Manny inject" and that can be proved false Pac would have a case; but mere speculation that he takes steroids is indeed constitutionally protected speech. After all, many people have speculated about many athletes even when they had yet (or had never) tested positive: (hollyfied, Woods, Dykstra, Sosa, every offensive lineman in the NFL, etc) and never had to pay a dime in court.

Pac appears to be reating like Clemons, thinking his faithful fans will assume if he's willing to file a suit, he must be innocent.The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

[fan johnny]

Althougth there is a amount specified in the suit, There is something called punitive damages and or actual damages. It could be called something else but I'm pretty sure there is more than one type of award if the case is won. The Pacquiao's Lawyer might be talking about the one not listed. Mayweather's insistence on having testing done outside of Boxing could actually be used against him as proof of losses using the guaranteed amount especially if he put his name to paper on the other issues. I'm pretty sure everyone will agree that Pacquiao's reputation has suffered greatly because Mayweather's insistence to have additional testing done. People will try to argue that it's because Pacquiao would not agree to the random part of the tests but the truth is, it is all additional testing. The court should view it as such, unless his Lawyer is able to spin it without showing Mayweather is guilty implying that Pacquiao is using PED's. It a catch-22 situation. So ya the case could possibly be worth millions.

[killersheep]

Althougth there is a amount specified in the suit, There is something called punitive damages and or actual damages. It could be called something else but I'm pretty sure there is more than one type of award if the case is won. The Pacquiao's Lawyer might be talking about the one not listed. Mayweather's insistence on having testing done outside of Boxing could actually be used against him as proof of losses using the guaranteed amount especially if he put his name to paper on the other issues. I'm pretty sure everyone will agree that Pacquiao's reputation has suffered greatly because Mayweather's insistence to have additional testing done. People will try to argue that it's because Pacquiao would not agree to the random part of the tests but the truth is, it is all additional testing. The court should view it as such, unless his Lawyer is able to spin it without showing Mayweather is guilty implying that Pacquiao is using PED's. It a catch-22 situation. So ya the case could possibly be worth millions.

Do you really think he's going to make 40 million off this? An extreme increase in performance is a reason stated by the WADA for doing extra testing of an athlete, the NSAC defers to the WADA for their drug screening rules. Pacquiao has been untouchable in his last few fights in higher weight classes.
Mayweather Sr. thinks he's on steroids, so the Mayweather camp says ok prove you're clean and we'll make the fight happen. And then the lawsuit came, not after the accusation, but after they asked for a drug test.

Who cares about the case and how much money he can make?

He just ruined the chance for the fight. As of March 17th Pacquiao starts his political campaign, that's it for boxing assuming he wins the election. With all the blind devotion he gets he should be easy victor.

[fan johnny]

Althougth there is a amount specified in the suit, There is something called punitive damages and or actual damages. It could be called something else but I'm pretty sure there is more than one type of award if the case is won. The Pacquiao's Lawyer might be talking about the one not listed. Mayweather's insistence on having testing done outside of Boxing could actually be used against him as proof of losses using the guaranteed amount especially if he put his name to paper on the other issues. I'm pretty sure everyone will agree that Pacquiao's reputation has suffered greatly because Mayweather's insistence to have additional testing done. People will try to argue that it's because Pacquiao would not agree to the random part of the tests but the truth is, it is all additional testing. The court should view it as such, unless his Lawyer is able to spin it without showing Mayweather is guilty implying that Pacquiao is using PED's. It a catch-22 situation. So ya the case could possibly be worth millions.

Do you really think he's going to make 40 million off this? An extreme increase in performance is a reason stated by the WADA for doing extra testing of an athlete, the NSAC defers to the WADA for their drug screening rules. Pacquiao has been untouchable in his last few fights in higher weight classes.
Mayweather Sr. thinks he's on steroids, so the Mayweather camp says ok prove you're clean and we'll make the fight happen. And then the lawsuit came, not after the accusation, but after they asked for a drug test.

Who cares about the case and how much money he can make?

He just ruined the chance for the fight. As of March 17th Pacquiao starts his political campaign, that's it for boxing assuming he wins the election. With all the blind devotion he gets he should be easy victor.

Actually I don't care if he make only 1 cent from the Law Suit, it just that people were writing 75x4/5=350K. You could be right that Mayweather will have a good defense. But as you have just stated you have your doubts about Pacquiao. Much more now than if only Mayweather Sr. said it.

[I don't think his chances of fighting Mayweather are ruined. Especially if Pacquiao wins the case. It should piss Mayweather Jr. off so much that he'd jump at the chance to face Pacquiao. If we are lucky, we might get to see Mayweather try to go toe to toe.... (Not really I'm just playing)
No way a fight gets made! ]

I just read though a big part of the petition (someone posted the link) and the $75K apparently is a only number that it exceeds. Not a specified amount he is claiming. The evidence listed against Mayweather Jr. is not so damning as it is with Mayweather Sr. I don't know what that means in making connections because it will be the Lawyer's job will be to connect the dots. I think he's going to have to do it with additional petitions. I don't think well be getting too many more accusations about Pacquiao using PED's from any of the named defendants. The rules are they get the filed documents as well.

Do I want to see Pacquiao win the case? I don't care... I only want to see the look on Mayweather Sr.'s face if he does. Why? I can't stand the disrespect he shows. As for Mayweather Jr. I don't think he is as malicious as Sr. but I also don't think he is innocent of wanting Pacquiao to have a popularity downfall. I'd much rather see the fight.

[texasgamer]

I'm new here and I see the witch hunt has began. Guilty !!!! Until proven Innocent.

[AdamGB]

Clemens and Bonds never failed drug tests either.

Neither did Mosley and that was doing the exact same test 11 times in Vegas.

Floyd has never tested positive either but has never been subjected to random blood tests, does that make him guilty too?

Floyd is also 100% willing to take random drug tests.

What a bitch move by pac... Makes me even more suspicious of him...

[TheBranMan]

I'm new here and I see the witch hunt has began. Guilty !!!! Until proven Innocent.

Yes, new 1-post user who has such an undoubtedly American screen name. I'm sure your ip adress has never been seen on this site before. It is definitely just a witch hunt based on absolutely nothing suspicious at all.

To everyone else happy new years, hope everyone's havin a bit more fun... lot more fun than I am. Strep throat sucks... Sydney Australia goes OFF on NYE.
Hopefully Manny makes himself a good new years resolution that has to do with his supposed 'fear of needles'.

[Conrad]

Oh well fuck it, I'm no pactard but I believe he's innocent. Hell, so does Larry Merchant!

Seriously though Pacquiao is a proud man and for me personally if he wins the lawsuit it regains a snip of credibility. Unfortunately doubts will always remain but the statment he released yesterday comes across as genuine to me.

F*ck this witch hunt! Not one gad damn shred of evidence, innocent until proven guilty!!!

[TheBranMan]

Oh well fuck it, I'm no pactard but I believe he's innocent. Hell, so does Larry Merchant!

Seriously though Pacquiao is a proud man and for me personally if he wins the lawsuit it regains a snip of credibility. Unfortunately doubts will always remain but the statment he released yesterday comes across as genuine to me.

F*ck this witch hunt! Not one gad damn shred of evidence, innocent until proven guilty!!!

Random testing is the proving method. Manny doesn't want to prove it in the ring when we know it's fair. Cmon, as a community we should push Manny to just accept the tests, they'll have to be put in place in boxing at some point anyways, does Manny want to go down in history as one of the last champions to oppose this (more conclusive) type of testing? If he throws this fight away over a few teaspoons of blood, he should be considered guilty.
EDIT: and btw, Larry Merchant is senile and has been for years now. You can tell from his ridiculous catch phrases: "Paulie Malignaggi floats like a butterfly and stings...... like a butterfly.." Seriously, what a f**king idiot. HBO should get a wheelchair (or coffin) on standby for him.

[titleist905t]

It's a jungle out there. Seriously Manny, get off your high horse and just fight like what you always say.

[AdamGB]

The poverty and hardship that the people in his country who idolise him have had to endure during the tsunami etc... and this guy won't fight to earn $40m

What an absolute joke.