Its sounding more and more like Manny is really suing for definition of character.
This is bullshit - I wouldn't be surprised if this is a move encouraged by the scumbags Manny surrounds himself with, rather than the man himself.
Roach, Ariza, Konz..Hell, even his name is fucking "cons" - and people thought Mayweathers entourage were bad
They ain't got shit on cockroach, Triple A - Alex "anabolic" Ariza and Michael...erm..Konz?
At least when the Mayweathers are outspoken, you know they're literally too stupid to know better.
It shows what Roach is about, when he lost the plot with his friend over at doghouseboxing and told him to fuck off. That is a beaten man who has nowhere left to run or hide.
Man, I'm pissed - This fight had to happen..I'm still hoping they can do something but it's gonna be difficult now.
And KillerSheep, you wanna wait until people spin this on FMJ? No need to wait dude..it's those 2 magic words again... YOU TUBE!
Please.
Mayweather's the disgraceful one. Instead of making the fight happen he slanders Pacquiao, and sets fire to Pacquiao's name by demanding tests that Rarley/NEVER used in professional boxing!
I don't know what's up with all the Pacquiao hatred on this forum. Even typically level headed posters are hating him. Pac man has done more for the sport than any other fighter the past couple years.
I don't see as how a boxing fan can't be a Pacquiao fan unless their vision is skewed by bias/ignorant dislike.
For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.
That is not quite true. I visit my legal court talk forum slightly less than saddos
Seriously though, prime athletes are picky, often superstitious. It's not hard to relate to someone feeling that giving blood 1-2 days before a fight would weaken them mentally.
Why make Pacquiao run through hoops in the first place? I guess I just dont see the "blatant" evidence everyone else does that Pacquiao's reluctance to jump through hoops and bend to Mayweathers idiotic antics incriminates him.
If Floyd had class/respect in the first place none of this would've happened.
Dont blame Pacquiao for this. It takes two parties to negotiate. I still think the fight will happen. This is just the "fight" before the fight. A bunch of posing. This type of thing isnt typical for Pacquiao, so blame PBF/GB for the delay. But dont expect Pacquiao to bend over to it
"speed is the essence of war"
sun tzu-art of war
see, theres some gray areas that some people dont know yet they still insist that they know inside out what the true issue is. manny never said he dont want to be tested. he just doesnt want to be tested so close to the fight. he is willing to be tested 30 days before and right after the fight. so do you think HGH or whatever it is wont be in his blood right after the fight? simple blood test? its random. that means they could also wake him up in the middle of the night or draw blood from him while he walks to the ring. whats so simple about that? try getting your blood drawn, even one veil and as soon as you're done get up and walk and lets see if you dont get dizzy.
Last edited by josef4334; 12-31-2009 at 10:57 PM.
"speed is the essence of war"
sun tzu-art of war
Whatever man, GBP/Mayweather are not the ones taking this initiative on the court side. Why should I care about Pac's superstitions? especially considering he's given blood within 2 days of a fight before (Morales I) and 14 days before (Hatton). Both were drum roll please............random......So now it's not so unprecedented is it?
This is just me talking here, but Pac is being a pussy.
And the statement I've made all along that "Pac is backing out of the fight because of a drug test" is still true.
You can enjoy your spin doctoring and casting blame back all you want that's your right, but Pacquiao is the one that refused to sign and it was because a drug test came to light.
Mayweather Sr. said Pacquiao was on steroids in September, that's the defamation we're talking about here right? If that's the case why was the lawsuit not put into motion until the final stage of contract signage? He already knew Mayweather had people in his camp (Mayweather Sr.) that thought he was doing some kind of PED. So if Manny let it slide for three months without a peep of recourse UNTIL it's announced that they want extra drug testing........................
For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.
What and the lawsuit is going to return the credibility? It's not going to change anyone's minds win or lose. People that support Pac through thick and thin will continue to do so. People that have doubts because he won't take a drug test will continue to do so. Nothing changes as far as his credibility goes. Just a money grab.
For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.
Manny, Roach, Arum all have said a lot of things. They had no less than 4 reasons of why they didn't want to take the drug test.
1. Superstition - whatever that means
2. Mental Weakness - really a top athlete at the top of a sport can't handle a drug test?
3. It would interupt the training schedule. - His training schedule is no more rigorous than that of olympic athletes and yet they can all handle it.
4. It gives control to team mayweather - who cares it's the last point of the negotiations
5. It's unprecidented, Manny has given blood randomly at least two times to my knowledge both times within 30 days of a fight.
6. He's going to court - this one is true.
For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.
Ok, Pacquiao gave blood (apparently) 2 days before Morales I...and that was the last time he lost. I can see why he's not crazy about the idea of giving blood that close to a fight if the last time he did it was the last time he lost.
Or maybe he lost because he couldn't squeeze in a quick cycle of his precious steroids before the fight![]()
No one cared about Mayweather Sr's accusation in September, because he had no involvement with anything related to Pacquiao and no bases for the accusation. It was easily dismissed and irrelevant. But make those accusations again, when the spotlight in on Pacquiao and Mayweather, toss in some spineless accusations by DLH and a few cowardly boxers who are wearing their jealousy of Pacquiao on their arm, and quickly Pacquiaos achievements are cast into doubt.
And why? Because of stupid accusations with no basis.
Personally I don't think Pacquiao is using steroids. I think it's witchcraft. We'll have to burn him at the stake to find out. If he flys away on his broom, then he's a witch and guilty. If he burns to death, then he's not a witch, but at least he's proven innocent![]()
Let's flip the script here. Let's say for the sake of argument Roach said "Mayweather is on steroids", would it not be in Pacquiao's best interests to make sure that, it is NOT true to the best of ability? And if you could honestly say that with roles reversed you would support Mayweather's lawsuit INSTEAD of the fight without critique and suspicion? You couldn't because your damn sure right you'd be calling him out on it, and I would be right there with you.
No need for that nonsense, a simple battery of blood tests will definitively prove (at least to the best ability of current science) that he is clean, he still fights, still gets his 40 million+ payday, proves the Mayweathers wrong and clears his name. ALL FROM ONE SIMPLE SERIES OF TESTS, the same tests that are administered to 16 year old girls in the olympics.
Last edited by killersheep; 01-01-2010 at 12:14 AM.
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pac can used this forum to show how far his name has been slandered. lol
also, i see it funny how people are saying manny is giving up $40M by not taking a simple blood test. no one seem to realize that floyd is also giving up the same amount by not coming up with simple compromise of an effective test that would be acceptable to both parties. teamfloyd did say that pac would be easy work inside the ring. so why insists on their demands and not come up with a counter proposal since teampac did say that they're ok with random testing as long as there would be none of it a mere couple of days before the fight. maybe mayweather's team should just find a compromise with their demands. why not propose an effective test that would not require blood drawing so close to the fight? pacquiao after all is an easy fight according to the mayweathers and they're blowing away an easy $40M by insisting on a test that's never been done before in any professional championship fight, a test they never thought of asking any previous opponent before. i should say both sides are being stupid not to work this out.
i think pacquiao and mayweather can still come to a compromise regarding the testing and make the fight happen. the script isn't finish yet imo. the pac-dlh fight was also called off but eventually still got made.
Last edited by KKisser; 01-01-2010 at 02:21 AM.
Mayweathers camp did compromise.
Look at the facts, each team had a significant issue with the fight.
Pac's team was concerned that Mayweather would come in over weight. Mayweather agreed to the 10 million per pound clause to guarantee he would come in within the welterweight limit.
Mayweather's team was concerned Pacquiao was using PEDs. So they asked for a test to prove he was clean to the best of the ability of modern science. Pacquiao started making random excuses THEN ODLH came out and said he had concerns blah blah blah. And then Pacquiao sued instead of agreeing to the test.
Someone that files a lawsuit is not looking to negotiate.
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