Even more proof Pacneedle is juicing

[The Congressman]

Seven-division world champion Manny Pacquiao became even more incensed at Floyd Mayweather Jr., Floyd Sr. and executives of Golden Boy Promotions (GBP) for what he alleges are twisting facts and coming up with false statements that intended to cover up the mess that they created even as they put the blame on the Manny and his team for the snag of talks to make the projected biggest fight in history from happening. “I can’t believe these guys can lie without batting an eyelash and they would even make it appear that I am the culprit for the delay of the fight and saying that I don’t want it to happen,” said Pacquiao in Tagalog, as he released part of the information that he has been keeping—proof that Mayweather Jr. directly accused him of performance enhancement drugs (PED) use.

“Liars go to hell. They should be man enough and own up to their words,” said Pacquiao, as he recalled information that pointed out to Mayweather Jr. categorically stating that “the Philippines has the best (performance) enhancement drugs,” supporting what his father, Mayweather Sr. and his uncle Jeff Mayweather, have openly claimed in past interviews. They all claimed that Pacquiao was into some kind of “roids” (steroids) or has used other banned substances.

source: Fightnews


Manny has always been the quite type. Yet here he is exploding. It's clearly without a doubt a sign of riod rage. It's good to see he's except the fact he's going to burn for eternity.

"Clearly without a doubt a sign of roid rage. It's good to see except the fact he's going to burn for eternity." I sincerly hope your being sarcastic, otherwise your a brainless neandrethal! Let me get this straight.. Your saying Manny Pacquiao is going to burn in hell for eternity, based on him being accused with taking steroids? (With as of yet absolutly no proof). It is suspicious but whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? The fact that everyone is creating these scenarios in thier minds about how Manny has cheated over the years is childish, and you Violent Demise seem to be the ring leader of ignorance!

Peolple who spread false rumor will definite burn in hell. I'm not much of a bible reader but I think that's what it says in the 9th commandment and exodus something:something.

[hakkai619]

Aw man i knew itd come to this. Please dont hate on people who havent done anything to be hated. Pac not agreeing to take a blood test doesnt mean his guilty. Come on. Its like someone accusing YOU of stealing even though they have no proof of it even more so that you have no record of theft. Its kinda like what happened to Jesus. Just cause he went around and proclaiming he was the son of God and he wasnt even doing anything bad. They arrested him and accused him of blasphemy and crucified him. Thats what you are currently doing to pac. plain and simple. Lemme ask you when was the first time anyone has even hinted pac was on roids and who hinted it? Oh thats right it was floyd mayweather sr. the former trainer of hatton who got KTFOd by pac. Dont you think it was out of bitterness that his fighter was obliterated by pac and made him look like a sucky trainer that he accused pac? What if pac was beaten by Cotto? I think he wouldnt have been labeled then right? Just cause you think he COULDNT HAVE BEATEN A LEGIT WELTERWEIGHT doesnt mean you can deduce he has an unfair advantage. Its peoples image of that "Pac shouldnt have been able to take those punches" is whats where the doubt is coming from but let me ask where are you basing that image? Cause he was KOd before? Wasnt that like when he was 18? at a lower weight? With a world class and future HOF like Erik Morales? People give a contradictory statement about pac and usually they give lots of excuses with most of the fights won. Like the marquez war, they say he practically lost that in points, david diaz he was weak and a paper champion tailor made etc..., Oscar Dela Hoya he was weight drained and wasnt the ODLH he used to be. Ricky Hatton he was overrated and wasnt the same after mayweather beat him. Cotto he wasnt the same after margarito. Now that they have something to pin on him they arent loving it. They love it cause usually pac looks to be untouchable because hes humble and hes won most of his fights since.

[markb018]

Aw man i knew itd come to this. Please dont hate on people who havent done anything to be hated. Pac not agreeing to take a blood test doesnt mean his guilty. Come on. Its like someone accusing YOU of stealing even though they have no proof of it even more so that you have no record of theft. Its kinda like what happened to Jesus. Just cause he went around and proclaiming he was the son of God and he wasnt even doing anything bad. They arrested him and accused him of blasphemy and crucified him. Thats what you are currently doing to pac. plain and simple. Lemme ask you when was the first time anyone has even hinted pac was on roids and who hinted it? Oh thats right it was floyd mayweather sr. the former trainer of hatton who got KTFOd by pac. Dont you think it was out of bitterness that his fighter was obliterated by pac and made him look like a sucky trainer that he accused pac? What if pac was beaten by Cotto? I think he wouldnt have been labeled then right? Just cause you think he COULDNT HAVE BEATEN A LEGIT WELTERWEIGHT doesnt mean you can deduce he has an unfair advantage. Its peoples image of that "Pac shouldnt have been able to take those punches" is whats where the doubt is coming from but let me ask where are you basing that image? Cause he was KOd before? Wasnt that like when he was 18? at a lower weight? With a world class and future HOF like Erik Morales? People give a contradictory statement about pac and usually they give lots of excuses with most of the fights won. Like the marquez war, they say he practically lost that in points, david diaz he was weak and a paper champion tailor made etc..., Oscar Dela Hoya he was weight drained and wasnt the ODLH he used to be. Ricky Hatton he was overrated and wasnt the same after mayweather beat him. Cotto he wasnt the same after margarito. Now that they have something to pin on him they arent loving it. They love it cause usually pac looks to be untouchable because hes humble and hes won most of his fights since.

We now have an analogy comparing Pac to Jesus Christ....game over everybody lol

[Gandalf]

Aw man i knew itd come to this. Please dont hate on people who havent done anything to be hated. Pac not agreeing to take a blood test doesnt mean his guilty. Come on. Its like someone accusing YOU of stealing even though they have no proof of it even more so that you have no record of theft. Its kinda like what happened to Jesus. Just cause he went around and proclaiming he was the son of God and he wasnt even doing anything bad. They arrested him and accused him of blasphemy and crucified him. Thats what you are currently doing to pac. plain and simple. Lemme ask you when was the first time anyone has even hinted pac was on roids and who hinted it? Oh thats right it was floyd mayweather sr. the former trainer of hatton who got KTFOd by pac. Dont you think it was out of bitterness that his fighter was obliterated by pac and made him look like a sucky trainer that he accused pac? What if pac was beaten by Cotto? I think he wouldnt have been labeled then right? Just cause you think he COULDNT HAVE BEATEN A LEGIT WELTERWEIGHT doesnt mean you can deduce he has an unfair advantage. Its peoples image of that "Pac shouldnt have been able to take those punches" is whats where the doubt is coming from but let me ask where are you basing that image? Cause he was KOd before? Wasnt that like when he was 18? at a lower weight? With a world class and future HOF like Erik Morales? People give a contradictory statement about pac and usually they give lots of excuses with most of the fights won. Like the marquez war, they say he practically lost that in points, david diaz he was weak and a paper champion tailor made etc..., Oscar Dela Hoya he was weight drained and wasnt the ODLH he used to be. Ricky Hatton he was overrated and wasnt the same after mayweather beat him. Cotto he wasnt the same after margarito. Now that they have something to pin on him they arent loving it. They love it cause usually pac looks to be untouchable because hes humble and hes won most of his fights since.

If I was in a department store and a security guard thought that I had stolen something, the first thing I would do would be to turn out my pockets and prove that I am innocent. To refuse would make me look circumspect. Right now Manny looks circumspect. It would have been better to agree. We would all then have the fight we want and both fighters would clearly be clean.

You can bring up the ludicrous Jesus analogies as much as you like, but there is one small thing that you are overlooking. Manny is not fighting because he refuses a random drugs test. As simple as.

[KKisser]

Aw man i knew itd come to this. Please dont hate on people who havent done anything to be hated. Pac not agreeing to take a blood test doesnt mean his guilty. Come on. Its like someone accusing YOU of stealing even though they have no proof of it even more so that you have no record of theft. Its kinda like what happened to Jesus. Just cause he went around and proclaiming he was the son of God and he wasnt even doing anything bad. They arrested him and accused him of blasphemy and crucified him. Thats what you are currently doing to pac. plain and simple. Lemme ask you when was the first time anyone has even hinted pac was on roids and who hinted it? Oh thats right it was floyd mayweather sr. the former trainer of hatton who got KTFOd by pac. Dont you think it was out of bitterness that his fighter was obliterated by pac and made him look like a sucky trainer that he accused pac? What if pac was beaten by Cotto? I think he wouldnt have been labeled then right? Just cause you think he COULDNT HAVE BEATEN A LEGIT WELTERWEIGHT doesnt mean you can deduce he has an unfair advantage. Its peoples image of that "Pac shouldnt have been able to take those punches" is whats where the doubt is coming from but let me ask where are you basing that image? Cause he was KOd before? Wasnt that like when he was 18? at a lower weight? With a world class and future HOF like Erik Morales? People give a contradictory statement about pac and usually they give lots of excuses with most of the fights won. Like the marquez war, they say he practically lost that in points, david diaz he was weak and a paper champion tailor made etc..., Oscar Dela Hoya he was weight drained and wasnt the ODLH he used to be. Ricky Hatton he was overrated and wasnt the same after mayweather beat him. Cotto he wasnt the same after margarito. Now that they have something to pin on him they arent loving it. They love it cause usually pac looks to be untouchable because hes humble and hes won most of his fights since.

If I was in a department store and a security guard thought that I had stolen something, the first thing I would do would be to turn out my pockets and prove that I am innocent. To refuse would make me look circumspect. Right now Manny looks circumspect. It would have been better to agree. We would all then have the fight we want and both fighters would clearly be clean.

You can bring up the ludicrous Jesus analogies as much as you like, but there is one small thing that you are overlooking. Manny is not fighting because he refuses a random drugs test. As simple as.

but if you were in the department store and that security guard singled you out out of all the people in the store for no reason whatsoever except maybe in his eyes you look like a thief, and want to thoroughly search your person, wouldn't you feel offended? i guess you would oblige immediately miles, but there are some people who would resent it and say "what the fuck do you think i am?!" i know that guard would get an earful from me.

[Violent Demise]

Aw man i knew itd come to this. Please dont hate on people who havent done anything to be hated. Pac not agreeing to take a blood test doesnt mean his guilty. Come on. Its like someone accusing YOU of stealing even though they have no proof of it even more so that you have no record of theft. Its kinda like what happened to Jesus. Just cause he went around and proclaiming he was the son of God and he wasnt even doing anything bad. They arrested him and accused him of blasphemy and crucified him. Thats what you are currently doing to pac. plain and simple. Lemme ask you when was the first time anyone has even hinted pac was on roids and who hinted it? Oh thats right it was floyd mayweather sr. the former trainer of hatton who got KTFOd by pac. Dont you think it was out of bitterness that his fighter was obliterated by pac and made him look like a sucky trainer that he accused pac? What if pac was beaten by Cotto? I think he wouldnt have been labeled then right? Just cause you think he COULDNT HAVE BEATEN A LEGIT WELTERWEIGHT doesnt mean you can deduce he has an unfair advantage. Its peoples image of that "Pac shouldnt have been able to take those punches" is whats where the doubt is coming from but let me ask where are you basing that image? Cause he was KOd before? Wasnt that like when he was 18? at a lower weight? With a world class and future HOF like Erik Morales? People give a contradictory statement about pac and usually they give lots of excuses with most of the fights won. Like the marquez war, they say he practically lost that in points, david diaz he was weak and a paper champion tailor made etc..., Oscar Dela Hoya he was weight drained and wasnt the ODLH he used to be. Ricky Hatton he was overrated and wasnt the same after mayweather beat him. Cotto he wasnt the same after margarito. Now that they have something to pin on him they arent loving it. They love it cause usually pac looks to be untouchable because hes humble and hes won most of his fights since.

If I was in a department store and a security guard thought that I had stolen something, the first thing I would do would be to turn out my pockets and prove that I am innocent. To refuse would make me look circumspect. Right now Manny looks circumspect. It would have been better to agree. We would all then have the fight we want and both fighters would clearly be clean.

You can bring up the ludicrous Jesus analogies as much as you like, but there is one small thing that you are overlooking. Manny is not fighting because he refuses a random drugs test. As simple as.

but if you were in the department store and that security guard singled you out out of all the people in the store for no reason whatsoever except maybe in his eyes you look like a thief, and want to thoroughly search your person, wouldn't you feel offended? i guess you would oblige immediately miles, but there are some people who would resent it and say "what the fuck do you think i am?!" i know that guard would get an earful from me.

Is the security guard giving you 40 million afterwards?

[Gandalf]

If I was in a department store and a security guard thought that I had stolen something, the first thing I would do would be to turn out my pockets and prove that I am innocent. To refuse would make me look circumspect. Right now Manny looks circumspect. It would have been better to agree. We would all then have the fight we want and both fighters would clearly be clean.

You can bring up the ludicrous Jesus analogies as much as you like, but there is one small thing that you are overlooking. Manny is not fighting because he refuses a random drugs test. As simple as.

but if you were in the department store and that security guard singled you out out of all the people in the store for no reason whatsoever except maybe in his eyes you look like a thief, and want to thoroughly search your person, wouldn't you feel offended? i guess you would oblige immediately miles, but there are some people who would resent it and say "what the fuck do you think i am?!" i know that guard would get an earful from me.

Is the security guard giving you 40 million afterwards?

That's a very good point. "Turn out your pockets like a good boy and we will give you a prize if you are clean". Nobody would have a problem when you look at it like that.

[KKisser]

If I was in a department store and a security guard thought that I had stolen something, the first thing I would do would be to turn out my pockets and prove that I am innocent. To refuse would make me look circumspect. Right now Manny looks circumspect. It would have been better to agree. We would all then have the fight we want and both fighters would clearly be clean.

You can bring up the ludicrous Jesus analogies as much as you like, but there is one small thing that you are overlooking. Manny is not fighting because he refuses a random drugs test. As simple as.

but if you were in the department store and that security guard singled you out out of all the people in the store for no reason whatsoever except maybe in his eyes you look like a thief, and want to thoroughly search your person, wouldn't you feel offended? i guess you would oblige immediately miles, but there are some people who would resent it and say "what the fuck do you think i am?!" i know that guard would get an earful from me.

Is the security guard giving you 40 million afterwards?

why would he give me $40M? don't be stupid. lol

is the guard getting $40M to search me?

[Violent Demise]

but if you were in the department store and that security guard singled you out out of all the people in the store for no reason whatsoever except maybe in his eyes you look like a thief, and want to thoroughly search your person, wouldn't you feel offended? i guess you would oblige immediately miles, but there are some people who would resent it and say "what the fuck do you think i am?!" i know that guard would get an earful from me.

Is the security guard giving you 40 million afterwards?

why would he give me $40M? don't be stupid. lol

Pacneedle takes the tests and he gets 40 million. It's that simple

[Gandalf]

Aw man i knew itd come to this. Please dont hate on people who havent done anything to be hated. Pac not agreeing to take a blood test doesnt mean his guilty. Come on. Its like someone accusing YOU of stealing even though they have no proof of it even more so that you have no record of theft. Its kinda like what happened to Jesus. Just cause he went around and proclaiming he was the son of God and he wasnt even doing anything bad. They arrested him and accused him of blasphemy and crucified him. Thats what you are currently doing to pac. plain and simple. Lemme ask you when was the first time anyone has even hinted pac was on roids and who hinted it? Oh thats right it was floyd mayweather sr. the former trainer of hatton who got KTFOd by pac. Dont you think it was out of bitterness that his fighter was obliterated by pac and made him look like a sucky trainer that he accused pac? What if pac was beaten by Cotto? I think he wouldnt have been labeled then right? Just cause you think he COULDNT HAVE BEATEN A LEGIT WELTERWEIGHT doesnt mean you can deduce he has an unfair advantage. Its peoples image of that "Pac shouldnt have been able to take those punches" is whats where the doubt is coming from but let me ask where are you basing that image? Cause he was KOd before? Wasnt that like when he was 18? at a lower weight? With a world class and future HOF like Erik Morales? People give a contradictory statement about pac and usually they give lots of excuses with most of the fights won. Like the marquez war, they say he practically lost that in points, david diaz he was weak and a paper champion tailor made etc..., Oscar Dela Hoya he was weight drained and wasnt the ODLH he used to be. Ricky Hatton he was overrated and wasnt the same after mayweather beat him. Cotto he wasnt the same after margarito. Now that they have something to pin on him they arent loving it. They love it cause usually pac looks to be untouchable because hes humble and hes won most of his fights since.

If I was in a department store and a security guard thought that I had stolen something, the first thing I would do would be to turn out my pockets and prove that I am innocent. To refuse would make me look circumspect. Right now Manny looks circumspect. It would have been better to agree. We would all then have the fight we want and both fighters would clearly be clean.

You can bring up the ludicrous Jesus analogies as much as you like, but there is one small thing that you are overlooking. Manny is not fighting because he refuses a random drugs test. As simple as.

but if you were in the department store and that security guard singled you out out of all the people in the store for no reason whatsoever except maybe in his eyes you look like a thief, and want to thoroughly search your person, wouldn't you feel offended? i guess you would oblige immediately miles, but there are some people who would resent it and say "what the fuck do you think i am?!" i know that guard would get an earful from me.

I don't know about feeling offended, but I would feel a bit shocked and taken aback. But after that moment and having had a second or two to think about the situation I would think "well, why not?". I would definitely demand an apology after the ordeal.

Like I say, I think this whole thing has got way out of hand and it has just made boxing look silly. Instead of winning over new fans, we have them looking at boxing as some kind of charade. Unlike the store situation, we are dealing with top level athletes in the public eye. Refusing a random drugs test simply doesn't look good.

[JT Rock]

but if you were in the department store and that security guard singled you out out of all the people in the store for no reason whatsoever except maybe in his eyes you look like a thief, and want to thoroughly search your person, wouldn't you feel offended? i guess you would oblige immediately miles, but there are some people who would resent it and say "what the fuck do you think i am?!" i know that guard would get an earful from me.

I would agree with you, but your what your missing here is probable cause.. Manny Pacquiao is acting almost identical to every other amateur and Pro athlete implicated for using Anabolic Steroids, growth hormone and any other PED that got caught.. I know people would like to believe that Pac is the 2nd coming but the stuff he is doing and has done are unprecedented the way he is retaining speed and power.... So yes Pac may be clean as a whistle but based on the recent history of fighters doing phenomenal things in this era with the help of chemical enhancements definetly rouses suspicion with PROBABLE CAUSE. In this era of the court of public opinion the onus is on the athlete to prove to us he's not using instead of us proving he is...