Filipino boxing fans who disagree with Pacquiao

[brucelee]

Have been a boxing fan since I can remember and have been following the news. A lot of he Pacquiao fans seems to be a fan of the fighter as opposed to boxing in general.
I have been reading some of the other Philipino boxing forums and some of the comments made just seem to go to the extreme.
The general opinion seems to be if you question the refusal then you must be a PBF fan/nuthugger/Manny hater!
Also they won't even concede that it would be possible for him to be on PED's. How can you possibly justify that?
Would like to know if there are genuine Philipino BOXING fans out there

count me as one. we are many in this forum. true boxing fans. ehrrm.... if defending the accomplishments of Pac (until he's proven guilty) is nut hugging then you may call me a certified nuthugger.

All I know is that I have a countryman who has excelled in boxing (possibly, the greatest of all time if he TKOS gayweather) and I will call anyone who makes a bad repute of him ( like calling him a drug user without evidence) a Pac hater.


I know it's possible for PAc or for anyone to be on PEDS but as he is willing to take any test, then I'd say he's not on PEDs.

Come on Gayweather. Accept the term and sign the contract and prove that you're not ducking the greatest threat on your 0.

[sanj16]

Have been a boxing fan since I can remember and have been following the news. A lot of he Pacquiao fans seems to be a fan of the fighter as opposed to boxing in general.
I have been reading some of the other Philipino boxing forums and some of the comments made just seem to go to the extreme.
The general opinion seems to be if you question the refusal then you must be a PBF fan/nuthugger/Manny hater!
Also they won't even concede that it would be possible for him to be on PED's. How can you possibly justify that?
Would like to know if there are genuine Philipino BOXING fans out there

count me as one. we are many in this forum. true boxing fans. ehrrm.... if defending the accomplishments of Pac (until he's proven guilty) is nut hugging then you may call me a certified nuthugger.

All I know is that I have a countryman who has excelled in boxing (possibly, the greatest of all time if he TKOS gayweather) and I will call anyone who makes a bad repute of him ( like calling him a drug user without evidence) a Pac hater.


I know it's possible for PAc or for anyone to be on PEDS but as he is willing to take any test, then I'd say he's not on PEDs.

Come on Gayweather. Accept the term and sign the contract and prove that you're not ducking the greatest threat on your 0.

Being a country man has nothing to do with being a boxing fan. I feel that you must learn to look at things objectively and not go along with the blind belief that Manny can do no wrong and if anyone criticizes him then they are haters. Nobody is saying he is on PED's, but his own actions are counting against him and making it look bad.
I'm sure you won't even accept the possibility that there is the chance he could be on PEDs even though you have no back-up except "your belief".
Manny should be taking the best test out there.
I hope for the sake of all his hard-core/ blinded fans that the day never comes where he will have to make that famous press statement, like those who have gone before when denying, with tears in his eyes about how sorry he is, and how bad he feels, and how he wish he could have changed it. Presumably preceded by I didn't know I was taking them, it was my trainer/nutritionist, it was an accident etc

[brucelee]

Have been a boxing fan since I can remember and have been following the news. A lot of he Pacquiao fans seems to be a fan of the fighter as opposed to boxing in general.
I have been reading some of the other Philipino boxing forums and some of the comments made just seem to go to the extreme.
The general opinion seems to be if you question the refusal then you must be a PBF fan/nuthugger/Manny hater!
Also they won't even concede that it would be possible for him to be on PED's. How can you possibly justify that?
Would like to know if there are genuine Philipino BOXING fans out there

count me as one. we are many in this forum. true boxing fans. ehrrm.... if defending the accomplishments of Pac (until he's proven guilty) is nut hugging then you may call me a certified nuthugger.

All I know is that I have a countryman who has excelled in boxing (possibly, the greatest of all time if he TKOS gayweather) and I will call anyone who makes a bad repute of him ( like calling him a drug user without evidence) a Pac hater.


I know it's possible for PAc or for anyone to be on PEDS but as he is willing to take any test, then I'd say he's not on PEDs.

Come on Gayweather. Accept the term and sign the contract and prove that you're not ducking the greatest threat on your 0.

Being a country man has nothing to do with being a boxing fan. I feel that you must learn to look at things objectively and not go along with the blind belief that Manny can do no wrong and if anyone criticizes him then they are haters. Nobody is saying he is on PED's, but his own actions are counting against him and making it look bad.
I'm sure you won't even accept the possibility that there is the chance he could be on PEDs even though you have no back-up except "your belief".
Manny should be taking the best test out there.
I hope for the sake of all his hard-core/ blinded fans that the day never comes where he will have to make that famous press statement, like those who have gone before when denying, with tears in his eyes about how sorry he is, and how bad he feels, and how he wish he could have changed it. Presumably preceded by I didn't know I was taking them, it was my trainer/nutritionist, it was an accident etc

please read my reply regarding how i hate Pac. I'm not blindly agreeing on whatever pac does. I'm as neutral as you are but I take pac's side as a boxing fan because whether you accept it or not, those who TRULY know about PEDs say that MAyweather is making a ludicrous demand.

Now, as to Pac taking the random drug test, I'd say to pac, " take it just to kill the issue".

AS of the moment,I see this action of MAyweather and ODLH as schemes to take away Pac's accomplishments.

Mayweather hates the fact that Pac took the pound for pound tiara from him( and in a more convincing manner). ODLH simply hated Pac for killing his plans to continue fighting. There's no better way for ODLH to have the chance to fight again than to destroy Pac's reputation. It's clear to me now why ODLH is bent on pursuing this issue. He's using Mayweather and Mayweather is loving how he's being used here.

I'd say to ODLH,well done. Your plan is working well. I hope it won't backfire.

now to satisfy you and you can put this in the record, I'd also say that Pac is foolish for not accepting immediately this demand on drug testing. He was too proud but I can't totally blame him. Arum made it clear before the negotiation started that they won't easily succumb to whatever demand Gayweather asks.Their plan backfired and PAc became the victim.

So plan B must proceed. There's little time left.