Holyfield Vs Botha? What has the HW division come to?

[Drago]

I just can't believe Evander Holyfield will be fighting Frans Botha in Feb for the WBF HW title....The WBF title means zip zero and Nada but fact is if Holyfield wins this fight at 47 he will believe he is back in the HW title mix and we may have to endure him having another embarrassing loss against one of the various second rate contenders out there....

OR

Worse yet Holyfield Vs Ruiz 4!!!!!!!! Because John for as nice a guy he is also believes he is a major force in the division

Why is Evander still fighting? Why does he have a license?

Then you must not believe why David Haye is fighting either. Just one year ago Evander Holyfield showed more stuff in fighting Valuev than David Haye did.


Botha Holyfield is actually a decent scrap. Noone will be running and both guys have good fighting hearts. I would certainly rather watch this fight than suffer through Vitali K fighting Kevin Johnson.

i agree

holyfield botha is a shit fight but i would watch it over the recent wlad vitali snoozefests

[Zilla]

I just can't believe Evander Holyfield will be fighting Frans Botha in Feb for the WBF HW title....The WBF title means zip zero and Nada but fact is if Holyfield wins this fight at 47 he will believe he is back in the HW title mix and we may have to endure him having another embarrassing loss against one of the various second rate contenders out there....

OR

Worse yet Holyfield Vs Ruiz 4!!!!!!!! Because John for as nice a guy he is also believes he is a major force in the division

Why is Evander still fighting? Why does he have a license?

Then you must not believe why David Haye is fighting either. Just one year ago Evander Holyfield showed more stuff in fighting Valuev than David Haye did.


Botha Holyfield is actually a decent scrap. Noone will be running and both guys have good fighting hearts. I would certainly rather watch this fight than suffer through Vitali K fighting Kevin Johnson.

i agree

holyfield botha is a shit fight but i would watch it over the recent wlad vitali snoozefests

So you would rather watch two guys with diminished skills bash each other's heads in than a competent HW at the top of his game dominate another HW, who, even though mediocre, is still better than Holyfield or Botha at this point in his career in a more-than-likely losing effort?

[Drago]

Then you must not believe why David Haye is fighting either. Just one year ago Evander Holyfield showed more stuff in fighting Valuev than David Haye did.


Botha Holyfield is actually a decent scrap. Noone will be running and both guys have good fighting hearts. I would certainly rather watch this fight than suffer through Vitali K fighting Kevin Johnson.

i agree

holyfield botha is a shit fight but i would watch it over the recent wlad vitali snoozefests

So you would rather watch two guys with diminished skills bash each other's heads in than a competent HW at the top of his game dominate another HW, who, even though mediocre, is still better than Holyfield or Botha at this point in his career in a more-than-likely losing effort?

correct

[Zilla]

I knew I was wasting my time typing that sentence but I couldn't stop myself.

[Drago]

I knew I was wasting my time typing that sentence but I couldn't stop myself.

ha ha i couldnt help with that reply either brotha

[0james0]

Why? -because he can!

He needs the cash, supposodly 80,000 people are waiting to go watch it at the arena and prob 5 times that on PPV. The people obviously want it (not all, but enough to make it worthwhile)

Plus Holyfield obviously thinks he's still got it, judging by his performance against Valuev where he did as much as Haye, but didn't get the win, he clearly has enough in the tank to be mixing with the poor quality heavyweights around at the minute.

Fair play to the guy, still going after all these years, I'll be happy if I reach his age and I've got the conditioning to go 12 rounds with anyone, let alone a pro fighter, let alone a world title holder (be it mickey mouse or not)

[Spicoli]

With the benefit of hindsight,I'd bet my house on an AARP collecting Holyfield fighting sterner and doing better vs Vitali than the Kevin Johnson we saw......Holyfield vs Botha is one that your first reaction is swearing that they had already mixed it up,at least 10,12 years ago.Honestly the trinket is shit and the fighters past it...but not exactly .....hesitate to say this.....a completely crap styles match up

[Kel]

Why? -because he can!

He needs the cash, supposodly 80,000 people are waiting to go watch it at the arena and prob 5 times that on PPV. The people obviously want it (not all, but enough to make it worthwhile)

Plus Holyfield obviously thinks he's still got it, judging by his performance against Valuev where he did as much as Haye, but didn't get the win, he clearly has enough in the tank to be mixing with the poor quality heavyweights around at the minute.

Fair play to the guy, still going after all these years, I'll be happy if I reach his age and I've got the conditioning to go 12 rounds with anyone, let alone a pro fighter, let alone a world title holder (be it mickey mouse or not)

That's a good post. Hard to argue againsed that as a fan who thinks he should have hung them up quite some time ago.

I thought the Valuev performance was perfect to retire on.......should he have got the nod (which I think he deserved 100%) and I think he might have just considered stopping. Who knows. Good post though.

[salty trunks]

Then you must not believe why David Haye is fighting either. Just one year ago Evander Holyfield showed more stuff in fighting Valuev than David Haye did.


Botha Holyfield is actually a decent scrap. Noone will be running and both guys have good fighting hearts. I would certainly rather watch this fight than suffer through Vitali K fighting Kevin Johnson.

i agree

holyfield botha is a shit fight but i would watch it over the recent wlad vitali snoozefests

So you would rather watch two guys with diminished skills bash each other's heads in than a competent HW at the top of his game dominate another HW, who, even though mediocre, is still better than Holyfield or Botha at this point in his career in a more-than-likely losing effort?

Kevin Johnson is not better than 46 year old Holyfield. Holyfield actually throws punches back.

Your overating Vitali sir.

[El Kabong]

...wow surprise surprise another "Bitch about the Klitschko's" thread how very original and entertaining

This thread is about Holyfield vs Botha and how some jackass thinks that the fight shows poorly on the heavyweight division just because the WBF is giving the winner a belt, which I might add is the title that one AUDLEY HARRISON had.

The heavyweight division is just fine, the only problem is that the contenders in the division are too young and inexperienced to truly challenge the Klitschko's....so tough shit hating on the Klitschko's they are going to beat anyone put infront of them for a long time even including the dude I refuse to mention.

[Mar]

This aint the heavyweight division's fault, this is stupid ass holyfield determined to ruin his legacy and image and force us to watch his old ass get laid out in a damn coma eventuallly.

[Mar]

....and off topic and for the record. The worlds problem finding someone to beat either of the klits has nothing to do with either of them. I'm not taking sides but i dont see how you can hate them for being too good among these other loosers. If anything people should hate thier comp, they've made the fights boring. The klits do the same thing everytime cause thier crappy competition brings the same garbage to the table everytime. Curse them for making the most money, getting the highest rankings, and collecting all the belts with as little effort as possible. Why throw a right hand when you can beat everyones ass with the left and still save your other hand to doodle your wife and use the atm machine instead.

[Kel]

....and off topic and for the record. The worlds problem finding someone to beat either of the klits has nothing to do with either of them. I'm not taking sides but i dont see how you can hate them for being too good among these other loosers. If anything people should hate thier comp, they've made the fights boring. The klits do the same thing everytime cause thier crappy competition brings the same garbage to the table everytime. Curse them for making the most money, getting the highest rankings, and collecting all the belts with as little effort as possible. Why throw a right hand when you can beat everyones ass with the left and still save your other hand to doodle your wife and use the atm machine instead.

Fighters get paid to fight, if you are in the ring with an inferior fighter, give the fans what they paid for and beat the guy up. I'd rather see an early KO than a jabbing fest until the opponent gets so demoralised he quits.

Anyway who are you defending? The Klits or Floyd Mayweathers style? again!