Brucelee Speaks: PAC is on STEROIDS. FACT!

[erik_corrales]

i want to see this fight so bad it makes ME want to act like a little girl and throw a temper tantrum until i get what we want.

[Diane]

i want to see this fight so bad it makes ME want to act like a little girl and throw a temper tantrum until i get what we want.

Just make sure that you have someone record it, so we can all have a good laugh.

[cnote111]

A little reverse psycology Bruce.... I like it!!

Just let it be known, i will be more than devastated if the allegations are true. However, i'm still standing strong that he is not on any sort of PED's...

[Rantcatrat]

I disagree with this post in so many ways. So what if Pac takes the tests for this fight and is found to be clean? Maybe $40M was his motivation and he could have been juicing on his way up from 130 pounds. What's to say he didn't then? If he loses, do we chalk it up to the fact he lost to a better fighter or that he was on roids for the other fights and not this one? On the other hand, if he tests clean for this fight and wins, does this validate all his other performances? No, it shouldn't.

The bottom line is that Pac has tested clean his whole career and until he doesn't test clean, he can't be guilty of anything. Not that I am any sort of authority at all, but I don't believe Pac took roids because I thought he outboxed his recent opponents not outlasted or outchinned them. He would have knocked Hatton out in two rounds regardless and destroyed Oscar in the same way at 147. The Cotto fight was close until the third or fourth round when he hurt Cotto with a punch Cotto didn't see. That was the game changer. I don't see how roids helped that.

[Jimmy G-Force]

After reading the title, I thought somebody had conducted a sceance and been given sure word from the other side.

[Mattyhitman]

After reading the title, I thought somebody had conducted a sceance and been given sure word from the other side.

Agreed, carnt understand why a fan, and a big fan of Pac at that, would come out with something as ludicrous in the title without having clear evidence

[Gandalf]

After reading the title, I thought somebody had conducted a sceance and been given sure word from the other side.

Agreed, carnt understand why a fan, and a big fan of Pac at that, would come out with something as ludicrous in the title without having clear evidence

I think Bruce must be on PED's. It is a bit of a sudden flip flop.

[JT Rock]

I disagree with this post in so many ways. So what if Pac takes the tests for this fight and is found to be clean? Maybe $40M was his motivation and he could have been juicing on his way up from 130 pounds. What's to say he didn't then? If he loses, do we chalk it up to the fact he lost to a better fighter or that he was on roids for the other fights and not this one? On the other hand, if he tests clean for this fight and wins, does this validate all his other performances? No, it shouldn't.

The bottom line is that Pac has tested clean his whole career and until he doesn't test clean, he can't be guilty of anything. Not that I am any sort of authority at all, but I don't believe Pac took roids because I thought he outboxed his recent opponents not outlasted or outchinned them. He would have knocked Hatton out in two rounds regardless and destroyed Oscar in the same way at 147. The Cotto fight was close until the third or fourth round when he hurt Cotto with a punch Cotto didn't see. That was the game changer. I don't see how roids helped that.

I fail to see how steroids would give you a better chin :shrug:

For the rest of it, all boils down to designer roids and Ped's are not detected by the commissions urine test... Also if he was on any enhancement they would allow for more muscle as well as have a profound effect on his natural attributes of speed and power, thats why its absolutely suspicious and plausible that he could be on something with his unprecedented march through weight classes stopping 2 high caliber fighters who were established at their respected weights and 1 who was a shell of a man...

I am a huge baseball fan and have seen this shiit go down for the past decade with suspicion and ah ha moments when these guys are doing historical things.. You had average ball players who were turned into great players and great players that were absolutely off the map and comic book like... Testing and roid/Ped specialists have already stated Pac could finagle his cycle around his proposed schedule of before the 1st presser 24 days out and right after the fight...

[erik_corrales]

i want to see this fight so bad it makes ME want to act like a little girl and throw a temper tantrum until i get what we want.

Just make sure that you have someone record it, so we can all have a good laugh.

i'll do it on march 13 if it gets cancelled

[ElTerribleMorales]

i want to see this fight so bad it makes ME want to act like a little girl and throw a temper tantrum until i get what we want.

Just make sure that you have someone record it, so we can all have a good laugh.

i'll do it on march 13 if it gets cancelled

a fight can't get cancelled if it hasn't even been made yet

[erik_corrales]

a fight can't get cancelled if it hasn't even been made yet

ohh you got me there

[:::PSL:::]

Eh kung saFACTkin ko kaya yang mukha mo?

Just kiddin' Bruce.

[cnote111]

I am not jumping ship at all just yet... We all know this fight was being talked about and in the works rather quickly... In fact a fight of this caliber would've never been thought of being made this quickly... There is a strong "possibility" that they had to come up with a way to put this fight in the forefront of everything else going on, and in such a small period of time. This was the perfect plan to hype this fight up to the maximum level in just a 3-4 month window... That is extremely impressive on how much this board and all the others have been sucked into the vortex of possiblities... Brilliant PR Stunt!

I am not buying into any of this YET, and i will await the mega fight for March 13th....


PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LET ME BE RIGHT!!!!
(for more reasons then just my hero being a possible cheater)

[Kirkland Laing]

I am not jumping ship at all just yet... We all know this fight was being talked about and in the works rather quickly... In fact a fight of this caliber would've never been thought of being made this quickly... There is a strong "possibility" that they had to come up with a way to put this fight in the forefront of everything else going on, and in such a small period of time. This was the perfect plan to hype this fight up to the maximum level in just a 3-4 month window... That is extremely impressive on how much this board and all the others have been sucked into the vortex of possiblities... Brilliant PR Stunt!

I am not buying into any of this YET, and i will await the mega fight for March 13th....


PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LET ME BE RIGHT!!!!
(for more reasons then just my hero being a possible cheater)

It's not a brilliant pr move, it's a motherfunking disastrous one. Imagine Golden Boy talking to Top Rank and saying "this is how we create massive publicity for the fight! We'll put out a press release effectively claiming that your fighter is a cheat and a total fraud, then you deny it. But be sure to deny it in a bunch of ridiculous contradictory ways, say he's scared of needles when he's heavilt tattood, say he's superstitious and won't take blood tests within 30 days of the fight even though there's video evidence of him doing that before. And then continue to refuse to take tests while his reputation gets slimed so that even his own supporters are questioning him and the armchair PPV-buying public start to lose interest in the fight and Manny in general because it looks like he's a fraud. Then file a lawsuit against us making us look like a bunch of cnuts too! Then when we've made ourselves and the promotion look as bad as we possibly can let's say we found a resolution and the fight is back on!"


It's just nuts. Maintaining radio silence from announcing the fight until March 13th would have been a smarter idea to promote the fight than actually doing the events of the past two weeks on purpose.

[erik_corrales]

I am not jumping ship at all just yet... We all know this fight was being talked about and in the works rather quickly... In fact a fight of this caliber would've never been thought of being made this quickly... There is a strong "possibility" that they had to come up with a way to put this fight in the forefront of everything else going on, and in such a small period of time. This was the perfect plan to hype this fight up to the maximum level in just a 3-4 month window... That is extremely impressive on how much this board and all the others have been sucked into the vortex of possiblities... Brilliant PR Stunt!

I am not buying into any of this YET, and i will await the mega fight for March 13th....


PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LET ME BE RIGHT!!!!
(for more reasons then just my hero being a possible cheater)

It's not a brilliant pr move, it's a motherfunking disastrous one. Imagine Golden Boy talking to Top Rank and saying "this is how we create massive publicity for the fight! We'll put out a press release effectively claiming that your fighter is a cheat and a total fraud, then you deny it. But be sure to deny it in a bunch of ridiculous contradictory ways, say he's scared of needles when he's heavilt tattood, say he's superstitious and won't take blood tests within 30 days of the fight even though there's video evidence of him doing that before. And then continue to refuse to take tests while his reputation gets slimed so that even his own supporters are questioning him and the armchair PPV-buying public start to lose interest in the fight and Manny in general because it looks like he's a fraud. Then file a lawsuit against us making us look like a bunch of cnuts too! Then when we've made ourselves and the promotion look as bad as we possibly can let's say we found a resolution and the fight is back on!"


It's just nuts. Maintaining radio silence from announcing the fight until March 13th would have been a smarter idea to promote the fight than actually doing the events of the past two weeks on purpose.

i've been on cnotes theory for a while. and its not necessarily how kirkland describes it. how i see it, GBP and top rank didn't talk it over. GBP just started it and it snowballed to what it is now. its hitting 2 birds with one stone. or that's just my wishful thinking