Welcome back Kelly Pavlik

[JonnyFolds]

I call him a punk because he had been on the right track fighting threats and then he (like Sturm and Abraham before the super6) just started fighting bums....Lockett, Epsino who the fuck are they

Kelly got his ass whupped 1 time and he's been sulking about it ever since then....I think mentally he's shot, we've seen it before where a fighter loses once and they can't cope with it so they continue to look poor and lose fights....well Kelly is now on that path.

I think Williams could beat Kelly but I KNOW Martinez would

I agree, I think Martinez would beat Pavlik, and we may get the chance to see it, because I heard that there are already talks for the fight to happen in April. I guess HBO is pushing for it, because I think that they know that a fight between Pavlik and Williams will probably never happen. Williams wants 50% of the purse, because of everything that has happened, and no way will Pavlik and Top Rank agree to that. Plus, it's pretty obvious that HBO has taken to Martinez, and want to get him some more fights on their network.

I used to be a big fan of Pavlik, especially since he's a local guy, but I lost pretty much all my respect for him by how extremely unprofessional he was during this past year. Of course for me personally, the issue at the top of my list is the way he bitched out of the SIGNED contract he had with Sergio Mora.

Martinez is a beast! It's sad we're all just seeing it now(meaning as of Cintron through the fight with Williams)... He was a hidden tresure to people like myself... I'm sure there's gonna be alot of shit talkers on here that are gonna pop off at the mouth that they knew all about Sergio Martinez a long time ago... Whatever.. Fact is, I knew his name, his record and that's it... When he KNOCKED OUT CINTRON... He opened my eyes... Great boxer... great poise... loose... comfortable... solid boxer... Then came the Williams bout... FUCKING BEST THING THAT HAS HAPPENED TO MATINEZ's career! God bless Martinez! He took a fight at a catch weight agaist a deamon of a fighter. Sad it's happened so late. I know he lost to Margarito but he is not the same fighter... Not at all... I've seen that fight. Martinez is the best natural jr middleweight in the world...

I am 100% sure that Martinez fought to a highly controversial DRAW with Cintron... But the rest of the post is very, very true. So many people are going to talk like they always knew what Martinez was about, but unless you are from Argentina you'd never have known. He has quickly become one of my favorite fighters overnight!

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I agree, I think Martinez would beat Pavlik, and we may get the chance to see it, because I heard that there are already talks for the fight to happen in April. I guess HBO is pushing for it, because I think that they know that a fight between Pavlik and Williams will probably never happen. Williams wants 50% of the purse, because of everything that has happened, and no way will Pavlik and Top Rank agree to that. Plus, it's pretty obvious that HBO has taken to Martinez, and want to get him some more fights on their network.

I used to be a big fan of Pavlik, especially since he's a local guy, but I lost pretty much all my respect for him by how extremely unprofessional he was during this past year. Of course for me personally, the issue at the top of my list is the way he bitched out of the SIGNED contract he had with Sergio Mora.

Martinez is a beast! It's sad we're all just seeing it now(meaning as of Cintron through the fight with Williams)... He was a hidden tresure to people like myself... I'm sure there's gonna be alot of shit talkers on here that are gonna pop off at the mouth that they knew all about Sergio Martinez a long time ago... Whatever.. Fact is, I knew his name, his record and that's it... When he KNOCKED OUT CINTRON... He opened my eyes... Great boxer... great poise... loose... comfortable... solid boxer... Then came the Williams bout... FUCKING BEST THING THAT HAS HAPPENED TO MATINEZ's career! God bless Martinez! He took a fight at a catch weight agaist a deamon of a fighter. Sad it's happened so late. I know he lost to Margarito but he is not the same fighter... Not at all... I've seen that fight. Martinez is the best natural jr middleweight in the world...

I am 100% sure that Martinez fought to a highly controversial DRAW with Cintron... But the rest of the post is very, very true. So many people are going to talk like they always knew what Martinez was about, but unless you are from Argentina you'd never have known. He has quickly become one of my favorite fighters overnight!

Yup, that's what his record says but the fans know Cintron lost that fight like 3 times that night.

[JonnyFolds]

I think people are SO hypercritical when it comes to fighters. Nobody can even challenge Pavlik right now and that bothers everyone. So why don't you all juts hate Hopkins for beating him? I mean he's the one who let the air outta the balloon for everyone?

And Hopkins.. can you call Orneleus a real opponent? A man who made his career 2 divisions below where he fought BHop? I have more hate in my heart for Hop based on him still trying to get the RJJ fight than anything else in boxing.

I think it's pretty obvious that he would rather face a B+ opponent with a recently injured hand that Williams. Is that not logical to you guys? I think he didn't really consider what a douche he would look like as he dragged negotiations on with Pwill for all that time. And now, it has affect the most important thing to him... his fans!!!

Pavlik will bounce back from the Hopkins loss. Hopefully he learned something, and he will fight on his toes more from now on. We'll see... but it's pretty sad everyone is so willing to write him off for what you call a top 5 P4P fighter. Personally I don't see Hopkins as that good, so I should be taking the loss with more weight than anyone else out there.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I think people are SO hypercritical when it comes to fighters. Nobody can even challenge Pavlik right now and that bothers everyone. So why don't you all juts hate Hopkins for beating him? I mean he's the one who let the air outta the balloon for everyone?

And Hopkins.. can you call Orneleus a real opponent? A man who made his career 2 divisions below where he fought BHop? I have more hate in my heart for Hop based on him still trying to get the RJJ fight than anything else in boxing.

I think it's pretty obvious that he would rather face a B+ opponent with a recently injured hand that Williams. Is that not logical to you guys? I think he didn't really consider what a douche he would look like as he dragged negotiations on with Pwill for all that time. And now, it has affect the most important thing to him... his fans!!!

Pavlik will bounce back from the Hopkins loss. Hopefully he learned something, and he will fight on his toes more from now on. We'll see... but it's pretty sad everyone is so willing to write him off for what you call a top 5 P4P fighter. Personally I don't see Hopkins as that good, so I should be taking the loss with more weight than anyone else out there.

Yeah, Kelly has had a tough year out of the ring... I'm more irritated with that then anything. Like I said before, he was fine to defend his ABC straps but not to fight paul... Look, nomatter how you cut it he looks like a douche. I'm not writing Kelly off but he's got to show me he still wants to be champion. I'll give him '10 and then make my dicision... He needs to cut out the drinking and punching guys in the nuts in bars and shit... Leave that to me... I got it covered.