End of Day 2 of Mediation - No Agreement - They say fight is off

[josef4334]

i guess you didnt read the espn link huh? well arum said it so he might be lying. blame manny. mayweather seemed like he really wants random. maybe hes hoping that manny gets his blood drawn while he does his ring walk. he agreed to get his blood taken right after the fight so do you think he'll stop taking PEDS 2 days prior to the fight so he'll pass?

I have read it. The only change in Mannys camp was an offer to reduce the window for testing from 30 days to 24 days. That is far from any acceptance of random blood testing.

Manny has thrown away the fight, and it doesn't matter how Arum tries to spin it. The facts are there in the article. Mayweathers demands were the same as they have been all the way through negotiations. It is Manny's camp that offered the lame proposal of 24 days before the fight. A very weak move to make them look as though they are offering something, despite the fact that there is nothing random in their proposal and still allows for possible loopholes.

Don't try to reason them Miles, they will just stick to what Manny does even if he would kill somebody, they just don't want to be objective.

did anybody prove he's juicing? did you? not unless you give us proof then you and the rest of us here could speculate. mayweather started boxing at 106 lbs for golden gloves and now hes a welterweight, so you think hes juicing too? how about oscar, he fought at 130 all the way up to 160, so can we accuse him of juicing? mosley admited that he was on steroids but a lot of people think he lost to oscar on the second fight. vargas was also caught juicing, didnt dela hoya lay him out? bush said that theres WMD in iraq, iraq is now torn inside out and nobody found anything, not even half of 1 WMD

[Nameless]

I have read it. The only change in Mannys camp was an offer to reduce the window for testing from 30 days to 24 days. That is far from any acceptance of random blood testing.

Manny has thrown away the fight, and it doesn't matter how Arum tries to spin it. The facts are there in the article. Mayweathers demands were the same as they have been all the way through negotiations. It is Manny's camp that offered the lame proposal of 24 days before the fight. A very weak move to make them look as though they are offering something, despite the fact that there is nothing random in their proposal and still allows for possible loopholes.

Don't try to reason them Miles, they will just stick to what Manny does even if he would kill somebody, they just don't want to be objective.

did anybody prove he's juicing? did you? not unless you give us proof then you and the rest of us here could speculate. mayweather started boxing at 106 lbs for golden gloves and now hes a welterweight, so you think hes juicing too? how about oscar, he fought at 130 all the way up to 160, so can we accuse him of juicing? mosley admited that he was on steroids but a lot of people think he lost to oscar on the second fight. vargas was also caught juicing, didnt dela hoya lay him out? bush said that theres WMD in iraq, iraq is now torn inside out and nobody found anything, not even half of 1 WMD

I think you don't get it, don't you? Did you ever saw me said he was juiced? Read my old posts, I always said he has to be proven innocent till the opposite but that his refusal to get a tea spoon of blood removed, which absolutely can't weaken him makes it all very dubious and with reason. Like it or not, it is dubious for reasons. Fact. Like it or not, it's suspicious he refuses something so basic for 40 millions. Fact. Like it or not, it is humanly impossible to be weakened for such a small quantity of blood, biologically proven by every specialists. Fact.

[josef4334]

Don't try to reason them Miles, they will just stick to what Manny does even if he would kill somebody, they just don't want to be objective.

did anybody prove he's juicing? did you? not unless you give us proof then you and the rest of us here could speculate. mayweather started boxing at 106 lbs for golden gloves and now hes a welterweight, so you think hes juicing too? how about oscar, he fought at 130 all the way up to 160, so can we accuse him of juicing? mosley admited that he was on steroids but a lot of people think he lost to oscar on the second fight. vargas was also caught juicing, didnt dela hoya lay him out? bush said that theres WMD in iraq, iraq is now torn inside out and nobody found anything, not even half of 1 WMD

I think you don't get it, don't you? Did you ever saw me said he was juiced? Read my old posts,I always said he has to be proven innocent till the opposite but that his refusal to get a tea spoon of blood removed, which absolutely can't weaken him makes it all very dubious and with reason. Like it or not, it is dubious for reasons. Fact. Like it or not, it's suspicious he refuses something so basic for 40 millions. Fact. Like it or not, it is humanly impossible to be weakened for such a small quantity of blood, biologically proven by every specialists. Fact.

oh yeah. how come people go limp in just the sight of blood not even their own. some people after a veil of blood drawn have to sit around and drink orange juice for at least an hour so they wont faint. is it really biologically proven then post you link here. and how did you know it was a small quantity of blood? did you read the contract? was it disclosed to you and not to everybody else. dont make assusmptions and put the word FACT next to it.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

did anybody prove he's juicing? did you? not unless you give us proof then you and the rest of us here could speculate. mayweather started boxing at 106 lbs for golden gloves and now hes a welterweight, so you think hes juicing too? how about oscar, he fought at 130 all the way up to 160, so can we accuse him of juicing? mosley admited that he was on steroids but a lot of people think he lost to oscar on the second fight. vargas was also caught juicing, didnt dela hoya lay him out? bush said that theres WMD in iraq, iraq is now torn inside out and nobody found anything, not even half of 1 WMD

I think you don't get it, don't you? Did you ever saw me said he was juiced? Read my old posts,I always said he has to be proven innocent till the opposite but that his refusal to get a tea spoon of blood removed, which absolutely can't weaken him makes it all very dubious and with reason. Like it or not, it is dubious for reasons. Fact. Like it or not, it's suspicious he refuses something so basic for 40 millions. Fact. Like it or not, it is humanly impossible to be weakened for such a small quantity of blood, biologically proven by every specialists. Fact.

oh yeah. how come people go limp in just the sight of blood not even their own. some people after a veil of blood drawn have to sit around and drink orange juice for at least an hour so they wont faint. is it really biologically proven then post you link here. and how did you know it was a small quantity of blood? did you read the contract? was it disclosed to you and not to everybody else. dont make assusmptions and put the word FACT next to it.

I've had a couple of blood tests, so I and I'm sure others do know!

Are those tattoos of his stick on or was it by a needle breaking the skin?

If they need to sit about it's because of whats in their head and not losing a little blood.

People who donate blood don't have this problem!! So why should someone who is at the highest level of fitness?

Those are facts.

[erik_corrales]

i wonder if they can give us the trainscript of how the mediation took place.

dammit. why'd this have to happen? i still think this fight is happening later this year.

[Nameless]

did anybody prove he's juicing? did you? not unless you give us proof then you and the rest of us here could speculate. mayweather started boxing at 106 lbs for golden gloves and now hes a welterweight, so you think hes juicing too? how about oscar, he fought at 130 all the way up to 160, so can we accuse him of juicing? mosley admited that he was on steroids but a lot of people think he lost to oscar on the second fight. vargas was also caught juicing, didnt dela hoya lay him out? bush said that theres WMD in iraq, iraq is now torn inside out and nobody found anything, not even half of 1 WMD

I think you don't get it, don't you? Did you ever saw me said he was juiced? Read my old posts,I always said he has to be proven innocent till the opposite but that his refusal to get a tea spoon of blood removed, which absolutely can't weaken him makes it all very dubious and with reason. Like it or not, it is dubious for reasons. Fact. Like it or not, it's suspicious he refuses something so basic for 40 millions. Fact. Like it or not, it is humanly impossible to be weakened for such a small quantity of blood, biologically proven by every specialists. Fact.

oh yeah. how come people go limp in just the sight of blood not even their own. some people after a veil of blood drawn have to sit around and drink orange juice for at least an hour so they wont faint. is it really biologically proven then post you link here. and how did you know it was a small quantity of blood? did you read the contract? was it disclosed to you and not to everybody else. dont make assusmptions and put the word FACT next to it.

Sorry but you won't fool me with your stupid argumentation, if they would force him to get blood drawn from a specific place, they would have negociated to have it taken somewhere else and as it doesn't matter, it sure is not a big deal. They just want a sampler of blood, no matter where it is extracted, to see if it contains strange substances. As for your peoples fainting, they aren't dying, Pacman even accepted the blood tests without hesitation, just not 24 days before the fight. If they extract it after a day where he trains, how would it ruin his preparation? Not at all. ¨PAcman agreed to the tests, just not random, he won't fain neither die, this argument is just silly and you're just trying to protect your idol in a very very very poor way. so yeah, FACT.

[sumkalambay]

i don't think Pac has taken anabolic steroids. I suspect he may've been taking EPO or blood doping.

that's why the random tests are throwing him off. The 30/24-day proposal is a fucking joke. That's such a big loophole that any PED cheat would get through it.

Within 24 hours? Also useless.