So now that Arum has called Mayweather/Pacquiao off...

[josef4334]

Cash is king, I don't think there would be many boxers that would "stand their ground" and ask for additional testing. I mean most boxers would love to get in the ring with Manny just for the payday even if they know they're gonna lose, even if he was on PEDs.

Indeed, but how will he now be remembered?...

I feel that this may permenantly tarnish his reputation and that tends to upset me.

Will he now be remembered as an ATG with "stipulations"...

Like Aaron Pryor and the black bottle. That'll always hang over his head even with all his accomplishments.

yep. thats how exactly he will be remembered. his reputation was tarnished by his refusal to the test although i see his reason to refuse the random testing. but whats funny is that everybody bought the accusations of a known and convicted drug dealer in mayweather sr. and by the way nothing was proven on the aaron pryor black bottle. for all we know its just placebo so he would fight harder that night.

[killersheep]

Cash is king, I don't think there would be many boxers that would "stand their ground" and ask for additional testing. I mean most boxers would love to get in the ring with Manny just for the payday even if they know they're gonna lose, even if he was on PEDs.

Indeed, but how will he now be remembered?...

I feel that this may permenantly tarnish his reputation and that tends to upset me.

Will he now be remembered as an ATG with "stipulations"...

Like Aaron Pryor and the black bottle. That'll always hang over his head even with all his accomplishments.

yep. thats how exactly he will be remembered. his reputation was tarnished by his refusal to the test although i see his reason to refuse the random testing. but whats funny is that everybody bought the accusations of a known and convicted drug dealer in mayweather sr. and by the way nothing was proven on the aaron pryor black bottle. for all we know its just placebo so he would fight harder that night.

Wouldn't you call that an expert on the subject though? A user that's been in boxing rings and around boxers his whole life?