So now that Arum has called Mayweather/Pacquiao off...

[killersheep]

Cash is king, I don't think there would be many boxers that would "stand their ground" and ask for additional testing. I mean most boxers would love to get in the ring with Manny just for the payday even if they know they're gonna lose, even if he was on PEDs.

Indeed, but how will he now be remembered?...

I feel that this may permenantly tarnish his reputation and that tends to upset me.

Will he now be remembered as an ATG with "stipulations"...

Like Aaron Pryor and the black bottle. That'll always hang over his head even with all his accomplishments.

To be honest if you read what most people are posting on the internet you see the following common statement "gayweather is a pussy, I hope Pac cleans him out in the courtroom"

I think the fine print for the asterisk will be rewritten in short order here.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Cash is king, I don't think there would be many boxers that would "stand their ground" and ask for additional testing. I mean most boxers would love to get in the ring with Manny just for the payday even if they know they're gonna lose, even if he was on PEDs.

Indeed, but how will he now be remembered?...

I feel that this may permenantly tarnish his reputation and that tends to upset me.

Will he now be remembered as an ATG with "stipulations"...

Like Aaron Pryor and the black bottle. That'll always hang over his head even with all his accomplishments.

To be honest if you read what most people are posting on the internet you see the following common statement "gayweather is a pussy, I hope Pac cleans him out in the courtroom"

I think the fine print for the asterisk will be rewritten in short order here.

The way people talk sometimes is just moronic... Look, no one hates Mayweather more than me. Trust me on that... But the fact remains that whenever an athlete is surpassing everyone and not just rising above the top level but in a way creating their own level there are bound to be questions. I think it's an athletes duty to keep the record straight and a true champion would ALWAYS want to shaow that they're the real deal and not a fairy tale. These questions and accusations are part of being the best. It's "the best's" job to dispell them... If they don't?... well....

[Cressa121]

The only thing thats made me suspicious of Pacquiao is the recent conduct of him and his team. When Mayweather Sr. made these allegations months ago i didn't pay any attention, i just thought "Its just Mayweather Sr talking shit again" but now i'm not so sure.

I think this whole issue will tarnish his reputation somewhat, people are going to look at his record now and say "well he could have been using here". I'm a huge admirer of Pacquiao, in his recent fights i've sat and watched in awe as he defied every belief i had by coming up the weights and destroying bigger men. But now there's doubts over whether some of these wins were legit.

I hope we still see this fight and that Pacquiao is clean, but i think regardless there'll always be that question mark over him, which is sad because his achievements have been remarkable, but his outright refusal for random testing makes it look suspicious.

[littlebif]

I think there might always be a bad feeling towards Pac now.Even if they fight later in the year and he takes the blood tests people will say he new there was going to be random tests so he didnt use any PEDs.

It is a great shame this fight is off if he isnt using but he only has himself to blame imo for not taking the blood tests.

[Mattyhitman]

Indeed, but how will he now be remembered?...

I feel that this may permenantly tarnish his reputation and that tends to upset me.

Will he now be remembered as an ATG with "stipulations"...

Like Aaron Pryor and the black bottle. That'll always hang over his head even with all his accomplishments.

To be honest if you read what most people are posting on the internet you see the following common statement "gayweather is a pussy, I hope Pac cleans him out in the courtroom"

I think the fine print for the asterisk will be rewritten in short order here.

The way people talk sometimes is just moronic... Look, no one hates Mayweather more than me. Trust me on that... But the fact remains that whenever an athlete is surpassing everyone and not just rising above the top level but in a way creating their own level there are bound to be questions. I think it's an athletes duty to keep the record straight and a true champion would ALWAYS want to shaow that they're the real deal and not a fairy tale. These questions and accusations are part of being the best. It's "the best's" job to dispell them... If they don't?... well....

Hmmmm i appreciate what ya saying bud, but im not sure about ya hating Mayweather more than me
I've pretty much kept out of this argument as i still believe it's Manny being Manny and Floyd being Floyd, and the fight will eventually be made ( seems far from that right now tho ). Why can they not not take the blood sample the day after or even 1hr after the fight if it's Manny's concern it will make him weaker before the fight ? Surely this would sufice and surely he cannot get rid of any drugs from his body 1hr after the fight can he ?