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He similar enough to Taylor, but didn't have Taylor's power or chin, though he did have that knockout punch... IMO WInky would beat him with pressure, and have a much easier time against Hearns than he did against the much bigger Taylor.
Ha ha - you're funny !

If winky tried to outbox Hearns, he would have been outpinted like everyone else was. Nobody ever outboxed Tommy.

If he tried to pressure him, he would have been kayoed. Hearns kayoed genuine light heavies, never mind blown up junior middles.

Winky is a very good fighter, but Hearns is an all time great.

For Hearns vs Winky, just watch Hearns vs Virgil Hill. Winky fights just like Virgil used to, except he's a lot smaller !!
ALso don't be fooled I bet Taylor could knock down plenty of legit lightheavy weights with easy.. Size doesn't necessarily change the quality of chin, and it wasn' the power of Hearns' punches but how that he was tricky in how he threw his right hand. Roy Jones Jr. would out box Hearns. Michael Nunn would have outboxed Hearns. James Toney would have out boxed Hearns. IMO even Hopkins could have found a strategy to outbox Hearns... to say that a boxer can't be outboxed is stupid.

Winky is good enough to take Hearns' punches IMO, and he would block almost all of them anyways while he would beat Thomas to the jab because he beats everyone to the jab even Mosley, and then Taylor at 34!!boxing style, and with nowadays training methods, and Winky still fought him to a draw.

Also WInky is easily stronger than almost any middleweight out there... There is almost nobody who can stand up to the barrage he took from Taylor and still come foreward the whole fight.
Wow, hypocrite.

You say 'to say that a boxer can't be outboxed it stupid', but then you go on to say Winky beats everyone to the jab, therefore he'd beat Tommy to the jab. Double standards there. THAT, my friend, IS stupid.

Hearns was quicker AND sharper with the jab than Winky. And I'd hazzard to say he was harder with it.

Taylor couldn't stop a shopworn, blown up light-middleweight in Raul Marquez (who Vargas stopped, AT the Texans preferred weight) so I wouldn't fancy him to knock out any light-heavyweight actually.

As for the guys you mentioned who'd outbox Hearns? Well, I would give RJJ a shot, prime RJJ...And maybe Hopkins, though that would be close. As for Nunn, no way. Tommy would blast him into orbit. He does everything better. Toney? That'd be interesting. I'm a big fan of James, but even I would disagree that he'd outbox a prime Hitman Hearns. Hearns would have reach advantages, and that could look like the Jones Jr.-Toney fight at times, though admittedly that could be close.

Overall I think your post is very harsh on a magnificent all-time legend in Hearns.
Its match-up issue IMO is why Hearns would lose... it has nothing to do wiht who's the better boxer(thoguh I think he is as well)... The reason why Wright beats people to the jab is because nobody up until now has been able to block his jab, while he's been able to nullify theirs... I am being general saying he will beat anybody to the jab I mean he has beaten everyone heh as of yet he's foughten to the jab including a guys way faster than Hearns(Mosley, Robert Frazier, etc.). He has done it many times. What well known BOXER has Hearns outboxed either than Leonard who IMO was fast enough to fight on the outside against sluggers, but would have trouble against anyone with a Hearns, Lennox Lewis, Jermain Taylor type of style. Also Hearns at welterweight didn't have a faster jab than Winky at light middleweight. Even if he did it wouldn't matter unless he was Mayweather quick at getting in and out otherwise even people like Taylor who has a jab at least as good as Hearns' was largely nullified by the likes of Wright because of Wright's timing and the repetitiveness of his jab.