Is Israel a terrorist state?

[El Kabong]

....well I am totally shocked that Kirkland thinks that Israel is bad

[Andre]

Btw I do see your points they are valid but not the be all and end all of the situation, It doesnt make you cunts or make me say fuck you for having these points of view.


Interesting couple of threads we have going here anyway gentlemen / climate change and Israel.

Heres to you lot sitting in front of fires looking at snow and me under a cool air conditioner just off down to the beach.

We are worlds apart.

cheers.

[Gandalf]

I had a feeling that this would be thread that would spark some debate, but I didn't realise that it would get so heated and off the rails.

I understand the holocaust argument and agree that the Nazi genocide was a terrible thing, but in what way does that justify giving those of a specific religion their own manufactured country? I am not religious and have no interest in what the Bible has to say on this matter. You can't just split up Palestine and hope for peace ever after. Israel has been an imperial power in the Middle East and supplied with weaponry and funded by the US. The building of settlements on occupied land is criminal and the international community still refuses to command Israel to give back the land. It's interesting that Israeli's could persecute and torture a race of people despite their own recent history. You would think the experience of genocide would have given them a greater sense of humanity, but instead they seem to have put a milder version in its place. Sad really.

Israel was a big mistake and we have been paying for it ever since. It was an ill conceived move formed out of a collective guilt over the holocaust. Unforunately, it has led to the persecution of Palestinians who had nothing to do with the Nazi's nor the holocaust. I see no way to justify how the Israeli's have behaved. Unfortunately, the US has continually given suppport to what in my view is clearly a terrorist state and without a US veto they will continue to be a terrorist state. If any country should be part of the "axis of evil", Israel would have to be one.