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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovebrucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zbolt View Post
    xylocaine is not banned in nevada state. any boxer can use it not only floyd.

    just for laughs. it will be hilarious if margarito will use xylocaine so that his hands will not hurt from the concrete

    LOL now your speaking my language. I have spent this whole thread trying to figure out why this so called revelation even matters when hes never used it out of nevada.
    it's a fact Xylocaine is not banned in 1 state (nevada) but there's valid reasons too why it's banned in 49 other usa states. it's safe to say Xylocaine is a widely banned illegal substance

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbolt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ilovebrucelee View Post
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    xylocaine is not banned in nevada state. any boxer can use it not only floyd.

    just for laughs. it will be hilarious if margarito will use xylocaine so that his hands will not hurt from the concrete

    LOL now your speaking my language. I have spent this whole thread trying to figure out why this so called revelation even matters when hes never used it out of nevada.
    it's a fact Xylocaine is not banned in 1 state (nevada) but there's valid reasons too why it's banned in 49 other usa states. it's safe to say Xylocaine is a widely banned illegal substance
    dude give it up, Floyd only uses xylocaine for his hands due to him having incredibly fragile hands, if it was helping him hit harder at all he'd have a hell of a lot more KO's as of late

    his fights from 2000 to 2009

    Gregorio Vargas - UD
    Emanuel Augustus - TKO
    Diego Corrales - TKO
    Carlos Hernandez - UD
    Jesus Chavez - TKO
    Jose Luis Castillo - UD
    Jose Luis Castillo II - UD
    Victoriano Sosa - UD
    Phillip N'dou - TKO
    DeMarcus Corley - UD
    Henry Bruseles - TKO
    Arturo Gatti - TKO
    Sharmba Mitchell - TKO
    Zab Judah - UD
    Carlos Baldomir - UD
    Oscar De La Hoya - SD
    Ricky Hatton - TKO
    Juan Manuel Marquez - UD

    so that's 10 decisions to 8 KO's, 6 of those KO's being at 140 and under
    hmmmm yea those pain killers are making Floyd a mini Tyson

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovebrucelee View Post


    LOL now your speaking my language. I have spent this whole thread trying to figure out why this so called revelation even matters when hes never used it out of nevada.
    it's a fact Xylocaine is not banned in 1 state (nevada) but there's valid reasons too why it's banned in 49 other usa states. it's safe to say Xylocaine is a widely banned illegal substance
    dude give it up, Floyd only uses xylocaine for his hands due to him having incredibly fragile hands, if it was helping him hit harder at all he'd have a hell of a lot more KO's as of late

    his fights from 2000 to 2009

    Gregorio Vargas - UD
    Emanuel Augustus - TKO
    Diego Corrales - TKO
    Carlos Hernandez - UD
    Jesus Chavez - TKO
    Jose Luis Castillo - UD
    Jose Luis Castillo II - UD
    Victoriano Sosa - UD
    Phillip N'dou - TKO
    DeMarcus Corley - UD
    Henry Bruseles - TKO
    Arturo Gatti - TKO
    Sharmba Mitchell - TKO
    Zab Judah - UD
    Carlos Baldomir - UD
    Oscar De La Hoya - SD
    Ricky Hatton - TKO
    Juan Manuel Marquez - UD

    so that's 10 decisions to 8 KO's, 6 of those KO's being at 140 and under
    hmmmm yea those pain killers are making Floyd a mini Tyson
    without xylocaine, it's possible floyd would have lesser ko wins or possible he could lose some of those fights. it's obvious xylocaine helped floyd in his fights otherwise he would not have used this widely banned substance

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbolt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zbolt View Post

    it's a fact Xylocaine is not banned in 1 state (nevada) but there's valid reasons too why it's banned in 49 other usa states. it's safe to say Xylocaine is a widely banned illegal substance
    dude give it up, Floyd only uses xylocaine for his hands due to him having incredibly fragile hands, if it was helping him hit harder at all he'd have a hell of a lot more KO's as of late

    his fights from 2000 to 2009

    Gregorio Vargas - UD
    Emanuel Augustus - TKO
    Diego Corrales - TKO
    Carlos Hernandez - UD
    Jesus Chavez - TKO
    Jose Luis Castillo - UD
    Jose Luis Castillo II - UD
    Victoriano Sosa - UD
    Phillip N'dou - TKO
    DeMarcus Corley - UD
    Henry Bruseles - TKO
    Arturo Gatti - TKO
    Sharmba Mitchell - TKO
    Zab Judah - UD
    Carlos Baldomir - UD
    Oscar De La Hoya - SD
    Ricky Hatton - TKO
    Juan Manuel Marquez - UD

    so that's 10 decisions to 8 KO's, 6 of those KO's being at 140 and under
    hmmmm yea those pain killers are making Floyd a mini Tyson
    without xylocaine, it's possible floyd would have lesser ko wins or possible he could lose some of those fights. it's obvious xylocaine helped floyd in his fights otherwise he would not have used this widely banned substance
    There are other things you can use to numb your hands that are legal everywhere. The thing Floyd tok is just the most effective. And like people already said, it's legal in Vegas so this is a nonissue desperately dredged up by the Pacneedle camp to deflect attention from their guy refusing random drug testing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zbolt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    dude give it up, Floyd only uses xylocaine for his hands due to him having incredibly fragile hands, if it was helping him hit harder at all he'd have a hell of a lot more KO's as of late

    his fights from 2000 to 2009

    Gregorio Vargas - UD
    Emanuel Augustus - TKO
    Diego Corrales - TKO
    Carlos Hernandez - UD
    Jesus Chavez - TKO
    Jose Luis Castillo - UD
    Jose Luis Castillo II - UD
    Victoriano Sosa - UD
    Phillip N'dou - TKO
    DeMarcus Corley - UD
    Henry Bruseles - TKO
    Arturo Gatti - TKO
    Sharmba Mitchell - TKO
    Zab Judah - UD
    Carlos Baldomir - UD
    Oscar De La Hoya - SD
    Ricky Hatton - TKO
    Juan Manuel Marquez - UD

    so that's 10 decisions to 8 KO's, 6 of those KO's being at 140 and under
    hmmmm yea those pain killers are making Floyd a mini Tyson
    without xylocaine, it's possible floyd would have lesser ko wins or possible he could lose some of those fights. it's obvious xylocaine helped floyd in his fights otherwise he would not have used this widely banned substance
    There are other things you can use to numb your hands that are legal everywhere. The thing Floyd tok is just the most effective. And like people already said, it's legal in Vegas so this is a nonissue desperately dredged up by the Pacneedle camp to deflect attention from their guy refusing random drug testing.
    So what your saying is its ok for Mayweather to use xylocaine because NSAC allows it even when its illegal in other states. But its totally ok to disregard NSAC rules when it comes to drug testing. How convenient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerome01 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zbolt View Post

    without xylocaine, it's possible floyd would have lesser ko wins or possible he could lose some of those fights. it's obvious xylocaine helped floyd in his fights otherwise he would not have used this widely banned substance
    There are other things you can use to numb your hands that are legal everywhere. The thing Floyd tok is just the most effective. And like people already said, it's legal in Vegas so this is a nonissue desperately dredged up by the Pacneedle camp to deflect attention from their guy refusing random drug testing.
    So what your saying is its ok for Mayweather to use xylocaine because NSAC allows it even when its illegal in other states. But its totally ok to disregard NSAC rules when it comes to drug testing. How convenient.
    there's a big difference between using a legal substance allowed by the sanctioning body and using an illegal substance that the urine tests done by that sanctioning body don't detect

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jerome01 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post

    There are other things you can use to numb your hands that are legal everywhere. The thing Floyd tok is just the most effective. And like people already said, it's legal in Vegas so this is a nonissue desperately dredged up by the Pacneedle camp to deflect attention from their guy refusing random drug testing.
    So what your saying is its ok for Mayweather to use xylocaine because NSAC allows it even when its illegal in other states. But its totally ok to disregard NSAC rules when it comes to drug testing. How convenient.
    there's a big difference between using a legal substance allowed by the sanctioning body and using an illegal substance that the urine tests done by that sanctioning body don't detect
    I'm fully aware of the differences. Again, xylocaine is legal in the state of Nevada but illegal in other states. But my point is about the rules and regulations.

    NSAC has a rule and your stuck with it. If you follow some rules you like then great. But if you don't like the other rules then petition for it to be change. But unless its change everyone should abide by the rule of the sanctioning body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zbolt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ilovebrucelee View Post


    LOL now your speaking my language. I have spent this whole thread trying to figure out why this so called revelation even matters when hes never used it out of nevada.
    it's a fact Xylocaine is not banned in 1 state (nevada) but there's valid reasons too why it's banned in 49 other usa states. it's safe to say Xylocaine is a widely banned illegal substance
    dude give it up, Floyd only uses xylocaine for his hands due to him having incredibly fragile hands, if it was helping him hit harder at all he'd have a hell of a lot more KO's as of late

    his fights from 2000 to 2009

    Gregorio Vargas - UD
    Emanuel Augustus - TKO
    Diego Corrales - TKO
    Carlos Hernandez - UD
    Jesus Chavez - TKO
    Jose Luis Castillo - UD
    Jose Luis Castillo II - UD
    Victoriano Sosa - UD
    Phillip N'dou - TKO
    DeMarcus Corley - UD
    Henry Bruseles - TKO
    Arturo Gatti - TKO
    Sharmba Mitchell - TKO
    Zab Judah - UD
    Carlos Baldomir - UD
    Oscar De La Hoya - SD
    Ricky Hatton - TKO
    Juan Manuel Marquez - UD

    so that's 10 decisions to 8 KO's, 6 of those KO's being at 140 and under
    hmmmm yea those pain killers are making Floyd a mini Tyson

    Xylocaine or Lidocaine is both anesthetic and stimulant/psychoactive drugs which induce temporary improvements in either mental or physical function or both. Examples of these kinds of effects may include enhanced alertness, wakefulness, and locomotion, among others.

    Cocaine and Lidocaine have similar psychological euphorigenic effects after intranasal application. Lidocaine is often used as additive to cocaine to form "crack".

    It may not make Floyd mini Tyson but it can provide him advantage over a non-using opponent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waleed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zbolt View Post

    it's a fact Xylocaine is not banned in 1 state (nevada) but there's valid reasons too why it's banned in 49 other usa states. it's safe to say Xylocaine is a widely banned illegal substance
    dude give it up, Floyd only uses xylocaine for his hands due to him having incredibly fragile hands, if it was helping him hit harder at all he'd have a hell of a lot more KO's as of late

    his fights from 2000 to 2009

    Gregorio Vargas - UD
    Emanuel Augustus - TKO
    Diego Corrales - TKO
    Carlos Hernandez - UD
    Jesus Chavez - TKO
    Jose Luis Castillo - UD
    Jose Luis Castillo II - UD
    Victoriano Sosa - UD
    Phillip N'dou - TKO
    DeMarcus Corley - UD
    Henry Bruseles - TKO
    Arturo Gatti - TKO
    Sharmba Mitchell - TKO
    Zab Judah - UD
    Carlos Baldomir - UD
    Oscar De La Hoya - SD
    Ricky Hatton - TKO
    Juan Manuel Marquez - UD

    so that's 10 decisions to 8 KO's, 6 of those KO's being at 140 and under
    hmmmm yea those pain killers are making Floyd a mini Tyson

    Xylocaine or Lidocaine is both anesthetic and stimulant/psychoactive drugs which induce temporary improvements in either mental or physical function or both. Examples of these kinds of effects may include enhanced alertness, wakefulness, and locomotion, among others.

    Cocaine and Lidocaine have similar psychological euphorigenic effects after intranasal application. Lidocaine is often used as additive to cocaine to form "crack".

    It may not make Floyd mini Tyson but it can provide him advantage over a non-using opponent.
    Well if they are so worried about it then they are free to use it themselves
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovebrucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Waleed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    dude give it up, Floyd only uses xylocaine for his hands due to him having incredibly fragile hands, if it was helping him hit harder at all he'd have a hell of a lot more KO's as of late

    his fights from 2000 to 2009

    Gregorio Vargas - UD
    Emanuel Augustus - TKO
    Diego Corrales - TKO
    Carlos Hernandez - UD
    Jesus Chavez - TKO
    Jose Luis Castillo - UD
    Jose Luis Castillo II - UD
    Victoriano Sosa - UD
    Phillip N'dou - TKO
    DeMarcus Corley - UD
    Henry Bruseles - TKO
    Arturo Gatti - TKO
    Sharmba Mitchell - TKO
    Zab Judah - UD
    Carlos Baldomir - UD
    Oscar De La Hoya - SD
    Ricky Hatton - TKO
    Juan Manuel Marquez - UD

    so that's 10 decisions to 8 KO's, 6 of those KO's being at 140 and under
    hmmmm yea those pain killers are making Floyd a mini Tyson

    Xylocaine or Lidocaine is both anesthetic and stimulant/psychoactive drugs which induce temporary improvements in either mental or physical function or both. Examples of these kinds of effects may include enhanced alertness, wakefulness, and locomotion, among others.

    Cocaine and Lidocaine have similar psychological euphorigenic effects after intranasal application. Lidocaine is often used as additive to cocaine to form "crack".

    It may not make Floyd mini Tyson but it can provide him advantage over a non-using opponent.
    Well if they are so worried about it then they are free to use it themselves
    Pac who has never had history of illegal substance use, refused special drug test, everyone acted as if he indeed is doping, while Floyd exposed to have advertently used "crack substitute" everyone acted like it's no big deal. I guess that's what Floyd meant when he said "level playing field" "sportsmanship at the highest level"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waleed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ilovebrucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Waleed View Post


    Xylocaine or Lidocaine is both anesthetic and stimulant/psychoactive drugs which induce temporary improvements in either mental or physical function or both. Examples of these kinds of effects may include enhanced alertness, wakefulness, and locomotion, among others.

    Cocaine and Lidocaine have similar psychological euphorigenic effects after intranasal application. Lidocaine is often used as additive to cocaine to form "crack".

    It may not make Floyd mini Tyson but it can provide him advantage over a non-using opponent.
    Well if they are so worried about it then they are free to use it themselves
    Pac who has never had history of illegal substance use, refused special drug test, everyone acted as if he indeed is doping, while Floyd exposed to have advertently used "crack substitute" everyone acted like it's no big deal. I guess that's what Floyd meant when he said "level playing field" "sportsmanship at the highest level"
    yea cause an anesthetic is the same thing as a performance enhancing drug

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waleed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zbolt View Post

    it's a fact Xylocaine is not banned in 1 state (nevada) but there's valid reasons too why it's banned in 49 other usa states. it's safe to say Xylocaine is a widely banned illegal substance
    dude give it up, Floyd only uses xylocaine for his hands due to him having incredibly fragile hands, if it was helping him hit harder at all he'd have a hell of a lot more KO's as of late

    his fights from 2000 to 2009

    Gregorio Vargas - UD
    Emanuel Augustus - TKO
    Diego Corrales - TKO
    Carlos Hernandez - UD
    Jesus Chavez - TKO
    Jose Luis Castillo - UD
    Jose Luis Castillo II - UD
    Victoriano Sosa - UD
    Phillip N'dou - TKO
    DeMarcus Corley - UD
    Henry Bruseles - TKO
    Arturo Gatti - TKO
    Sharmba Mitchell - TKO
    Zab Judah - UD
    Carlos Baldomir - UD
    Oscar De La Hoya - SD
    Ricky Hatton - TKO
    Juan Manuel Marquez - UD

    so that's 10 decisions to 8 KO's, 6 of those KO's being at 140 and under
    hmmmm yea those pain killers are making Floyd a mini Tyson

    Xylocaine or Lidocaine is both anesthetic and stimulant/psychoactive drugs which induce temporary improvements in either mental or physical function or both. Examples of these kinds of effects may include enhanced alertness, wakefulness, and locomotion, among others.

    Cocaine and Lidocaine have similar psychological euphorigenic effects after intranasal application. Lidocaine is often used as additive to cocaine to form "crack".

    It may not make Floyd mini Tyson but it can provide him advantage over a non-using opponent.
    Since when does an anesthetic make you more alert? Are you sure it doesnt mean with an adrenaline injection or something? Every site i look at regarding this drug said it was more likely to cause nausea and make you tired then to make you more alert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovebrucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Waleed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    dude give it up, Floyd only uses xylocaine for his hands due to him having incredibly fragile hands, if it was helping him hit harder at all he'd have a hell of a lot more KO's as of late

    his fights from 2000 to 2009

    Gregorio Vargas - UD
    Emanuel Augustus - TKO
    Diego Corrales - TKO
    Carlos Hernandez - UD
    Jesus Chavez - TKO
    Jose Luis Castillo - UD
    Jose Luis Castillo II - UD
    Victoriano Sosa - UD
    Phillip N'dou - TKO
    DeMarcus Corley - UD
    Henry Bruseles - TKO
    Arturo Gatti - TKO
    Sharmba Mitchell - TKO
    Zab Judah - UD
    Carlos Baldomir - UD
    Oscar De La Hoya - SD
    Ricky Hatton - TKO
    Juan Manuel Marquez - UD

    so that's 10 decisions to 8 KO's, 6 of those KO's being at 140 and under
    hmmmm yea those pain killers are making Floyd a mini Tyson

    Xylocaine or Lidocaine is both anesthetic and stimulant/psychoactive drugs which induce temporary improvements in either mental or physical function or both. Examples of these kinds of effects may include enhanced alertness, wakefulness, and locomotion, among others.

    Cocaine and Lidocaine have similar psychological euphorigenic effects after intranasal application. Lidocaine is often used as additive to cocaine to form "crack".

    It may not make Floyd mini Tyson but it can provide him advantage over a non-using opponent.
    Since when does an anesthetic make you more alert? Are you sure it doesnt mean with an adrenaline injection or something? Every site i look at regarding this drug said it was more likely to cause nausea and make you tired then to make you more alert.
    Lidocaine when used with epinephrine can be PED.

    Not all anesthetics are sedative, if that's what you mean, like cocaine, and morphine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waleed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ilovebrucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Waleed View Post


    Xylocaine or Lidocaine is both anesthetic and stimulant/psychoactive drugs which induce temporary improvements in either mental or physical function or both. Examples of these kinds of effects may include enhanced alertness, wakefulness, and locomotion, among others.

    Cocaine and Lidocaine have similar psychological euphorigenic effects after intranasal application. Lidocaine is often used as additive to cocaine to form "crack".

    It may not make Floyd mini Tyson but it can provide him advantage over a non-using opponent.
    Since when does an anesthetic make you more alert? Are you sure it doesnt mean with an adrenaline injection or something? Every site i look at regarding this drug said it was more likely to cause nausea and make you tired then to make you more alert.
    Lidocaine when used with epinephrine can be PED.

    Not all anesthetics are sedative, if that's what you mean, like cocaine, and morphine.
    and yet he's only used Xylocaine, which is JUST an anesthetic, meaning it numbs his hands...

    you mix clorox with toilet cleaner and aluminum it makes a bomb, yet none of them are illegal substances when used individually

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    LOL now your speaking my language. I have spent this whole thread trying to figure out why this so called revelation even matters when hes never used it out of nevada.
    it's a fact Xylocaine is not banned in 1 state (nevada) but there's valid reasons too why it's banned in 49 other usa states. it's safe to say Xylocaine is a widely banned illegal substance
    dude give it up, Floyd only uses xylocaine for his hands due to him having incredibly fragile hands, if it was helping him hit harder at all he'd have a hell of a lot more KO's as of late

    his fights from 2000 to 2009

    Gregorio Vargas - UD (Nevada)
    Emanuel Augustus - TKO (Michigan)
    Diego Corrales - TKO (Nevada)
    Carlos Hernandez - UD (Michigan) - It was only after this fight that he used Xylocaine for his fights with Castillo
    Jesus Chavez - TKO (California)
    Jose Luis Castillo - UD (Nevada)
    Jose Luis Castillo II - UD (Nevada)
    Victoriano Sosa - UD (California)
    Phillip N'dou - TKO (Michigan)
    DeMarcus Corley - UD (New Jersey)
    Henry Bruseles - TKO (Florida)
    Arturo Gatti - TKO (New Jersey)
    Sharmba Mitchell - TKO (Oregon)
    Zab Judah - UD (Nevada)
    Carlos Baldomir - UD (Nevada)
    Oscar De La Hoya - SD (Nevada)
    Ricky Hatton - TKO (Nevada)
    Juan Manuel Marquez - UD (Nevada)

    so that's 10 decisions to 8 KO's, 6 of those KO's being at 140 and under
    hmmmm yea those pain killers are making Floyd a mini Tyson
    I've put in some ammendments about where those fights took place. So since he broke his hand against Carlos Hernandez, he has only had 1 KO in Nevada. As far as we know, the only fight he used Xylocaine for was the first Castillo fight shortly after he'd broken it against Hernandez. Since he's been on intensive hand therapy courses since, it's quite likely he no longer uses it. Regardless, the point is that it clearly doesn't make him a stronger puncher, you could argue it has the opposite effect based off the evidence.

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