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Firstly, the first highlighted statement applies to any fighter that has never tested positive for PEDS.

The second highlighted question answers itself for me. Of course he could stay clean and take the money on offer, and that says everything. It's not about the money. PED's will not have a massive bearing on how this fight goes anyway. The bottom line is it will be down to each respective fighters talents. PED's would only ever give you a slight advantage, natural talent, strategy and skill-set make up 95% of this puglistic argument. Again, Manny wants to be the man, and Mayweather wants to be the man. As far as I'm concerned, both fighters ego's are as repsonsible for this mess as each others.

Floyd had no real reason to bring this up in the first place. If he is as good as he thinks he is, then he beats Manny on PEDS on not. Instead Floyd, with no evidence has tarnished a great fighters reputation, and thrown the sport of boxing under a spotlight it really shouldnt be occupying. Floyds actions tell's me he is jealous and wary of Manny. I agree with Manny's stance in a way, Floyd has decided that he is the almighty judge and jury on this debacle. For him to decide that the rules of the sport need changing to suit him is plain wrong.

Either way, should this fight happen, I think I'll still be rooting for Floyd.
But, even if you test clean, it doesn't prove or disprove what has happened in the past. The only way to know someone never juiced was if they were always tested in the way Floyd demanded. And because of Floyd's allegations, even if Manny tested clean, won't there always be doubt by some people?

What you're saying is that if it is not about the money and not about the pride, it must be about ego? Makes sense.
Yeah definatley, and that is so wrong for Floyd to create that doubt without any evidence. It's criminal at best.
Manny could have flattened Floyd's ego and won a massive psychological victory by just agreeing to take the tests like it was no big deal when Floyd first asked him to. Manny would have been saying yeah, I'm clean and I'm going to beat you up clean like I beat Cotto and shove your steroid allegations down your throat. But he basically copied the actions of every steroid cheat that's been caught in America over the last decade. The outraged denials, the lawsuits, the deaperate avoidance of any kind of random testing even when there was a massive contract on the table waiting to be signed if he agreed to it.

Floyd didn't create the doubt, Manny did. There are other boxing people other than the Mayweathers who have questioned whether what Manny is doing is legitimate and those are just the ones who've gone public about it. And all Manny had to do to dispel the doubt (and earn up to $60 million in the process) was agree to take random tests. It was the perfect opportunity to shut the doubters up. Instead all his actions since being asked to take random testing (back in mid-November) are the actions of a guilty man.