I don't understand why this situation is even being given time anymore...

[Gandalf]

I'm pretty bored with the whole issue myself and am not posting about it as much anymore. I think Mayweather was perfectly entitled to demand the tests and Pacs refusal to comply has raised all the question marks.

Missy made a good post in the post before too. Camps do go beyond the rules by stipulating random catchweights and so on. And this for me is far worse than asking for random drug tests, which on an ethical basis are quite justified. Manny Pacquiao was never a WW champion by my reckoning. It was an illegitimate title fight. It should be voided and kept simply as a W in Manny's favour. Cotto is still the champion for me.

Manny is a cheat and that's not even talking about PED's.

[generalbulldog]

I've been blasting Manny for weeks now for not complying with Mayweather. But I did forget to include in other factors into this whole ordeal.

1 thing was that Mayweather went about this the wrong way. He should never have started putting Manny on blast in the public media about being on PEDs when Manny was getting ready to fight Cotto. Add to that Floyd did insult the Phillipines and Flips by stating that they have the best drugs and are drug users (Mayweather stated that in the RA Rugged Man interview).

You factor in that kind of stuff and Manny's ego, then you have the situation today.

What Mayweather should have done was do all this stuff in private and negotiate, if Manny doesn't comply then go public. But what he did was go public first about the PED issue before the Cotto fight, accuse someone, insulted their country and people, and then expect someone to comply with what he wants on Olympic style drug testing.

I'm just seeing it from another angle. If you're making a business deal with someone, you don't try to insult them first hand before the deal gets done.

[Kel]

I always knew the fight was too good to be true so I ain't mega pissed about it, the fact is Floyd Mayweather has rarely fought a true threat, Manny has fought plenty so I know this hurts Floyd a lot more than Pac. Then again, Floyd don't care about legacy so I'd rather he made as little money as possible and just fucked off out the sport. Manny can also fuck off and be a politician or whatever shit he wants to do the fucking cunt.

Actually that makes me sound mad and angry but I'm not all that fussed.

[Myk_Myk]

I have to wonder if the whole thing was a "phishing" expedition/head game gone wrong. PBF thinks let's mess with his head a little, seeing as how it's already been kinda thrown out there, and see how he reacts to the suggestion of Olympic style testing.

Pac probably could have dissipated the whole thing with a flat out no compromise, "No, I've never tested positive. You don't have the authority to dictate the testing rules. We're following the standard rules as they have been followed. If you want different rules/procedures lobby to have them changed with the commissions." This is probably what PBF expected. He would have dropped it from the contract, but would have saved it as a way to try to push Pac's button and get under his skin during the promotions.

Instead there followed a slew of lame excuses and half compromises, at which point PBF and the rest of us had no option but to be suspicious. PBF pretty much had to push at that point, and ironically Pac in the end refused to compromise on the 14 days after (IMO) getting the whole thing off track by compromising on the issue in the first place!

[milmascaras1]

before all this back and forth bickering about blood tests and all, floyd jr. was already a villain to the american public because that is the way he marketed himself. on the other hand, pacquiao had this squeaky clean, wholesome imagine. now, look what's happened? mayweather jr. is still the villain while pacquiao's reputation has taken a gigantic hit. so who's the winner here pr wise? it's gotta be floyd jr. because he has always had this "me against the world" attitude while pacquiao was everybody's media darling. imo, pacquiao has lost alot more credibility than floyd jr. has.

[Andre]

I always knew the fight was too good to be true so I ain't mega pissed about it, the fact is Floyd Mayweather has rarely fought a true threat, Manny has fought plenty so I know this hurts Floyd a lot more than Pac. Then again, Floyd don't care about legacy so I'd rather he made as little money as possible and just fucked off out the sport. Manny can also fuck off and be a politician or whatever shit he wants to do the fucking cunt.

Actually that makes me sound mad and angry but I'm not all that fussed.

Im with you Kel, I see both sides of the issue too.

Floyd protecting the 0.

Manny hiding something at boxings expense.



Oh and if we All stuck together and refused to pay to see any of them again. Eventually they would make the fight with each other.

[miron_lang]

I always knew the fight was too good to be true so I ain't mega pissed about it, the fact is Floyd Mayweather has rarely fought a true threat, Manny has fought plenty so I know this hurts Floyd a lot more than Pac. Then again, Floyd don't care about legacy so I'd rather he made as little money as possible and just fucked off out the sport. Manny can also fuck off and be a politician or whatever shit he wants to do the fucking cunt.

Actually that makes me sound mad and angry but I'm not all that fussed.

Im with you Kel, I see both sides of the issue too.

Floyd protecting the 0.

Manny hiding something at boxings expense.



Oh and if we All stuck together and refused to pay to see any of them again. Eventually they would make the fight with each other.

He's not hiding it. google "TINOLANG MANOK" and "NILAGANG BAKA". Some boxers should just try it to get the same results.