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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Martinez Set For April

    Quote Originally Posted by TigerFan View Post
    It seems fighthype jumped the gun.

    Vindy.com Local News Youngstown, Warren, Columbiana Ohio - news, sports and information - Pavlik-Martinez fight in April? Not so fast.

    Don't believe the (Fight)Hype, Kelly Pavlik does not have a deal in place to fight Sergio Martinez in April.

    At least not yet.

    "We're discussing several fights," said Pavlik's co-manager, Cameron Dunkin, when asked about a report on the Web site FightHype that the fighters have agreed to terms for an April bout. "That's just one of them."

    Added Top Rank spokesman, "That's the first I've heard of it."

    Dunkin and Top Rank officials are planning to meet with HBO representatives next weekend in New York to discuss Pavlik's future, which could include an April fight. There are four finalists to fight Pavlik: Martinez, Anthony Mundine, WBA middleweight champion Felix Sturm and one other that hasn't been named yet.

    Paul Williams, who was scheduled to fight Pavlik on Dec. 5, does not appear to be among the finalists. After agreeing to fight Pavlik for $1.2 million in December, Williams now wants to split the proceeds 50-50. Pavlik's handlers have refused. Williams earned a majority decision win over Martinez on Dec. 5.

    "That's not happening," Dunkin said.

    For more details, read Sunday's Vindicator or visit Vindy.com.
    The last un-mentioned fight might be Bute as HBO and Interbox are clearly keen on it.... I will watch a bit more in the french canadians news because there was some rumors lately, one including PAvlik and another one Edison Miranda.
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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Martinez Set For April

    Nice, I actually think Martinez could win this one..He will be at a size disadvantage but he has great lateral movement which would give Pavlik fits

    Wouldn't mind seeing this

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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Martinez Set For April

    This fight ain't gonna happen. Pavlik should be hitting the sauce right about now and soon he will punch his fist through yet another plate glass window and he will be penciling in opponents until the end of the year until Alfonso Gomez is ready to move up to 160

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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Martinez Set For April

    Quote Originally Posted by *********** View Post
    This fight ain't gonna happen. Pavlik should be hitting the sauce right about now and soon he will punch his fist through yet another plate glass window and he will be penciling in opponents until the end of the year until Alfonso Gomez is ready to move up to 160
    Pavlik wont win, you got a guy like Martinez who has electric handspeed and quick movement against a plodding 1-2 guy who has to set his feet to punch, when moving he pushes his punches awfully.. I can see a UD for Martinez, KP always has a punchers chance but like Chaos said he is singing Danny boy about now 3 sheets to the wind in some dive bar in youngstown

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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Martinez Set For April

    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TigerFan View Post
    It seems fighthype jumped the gun.

    Vindy.com Local News Youngstown, Warren, Columbiana Ohio - news, sports and information - Pavlik-Martinez fight in April? Not so fast.

    Don't believe the (Fight)Hype, Kelly Pavlik does not have a deal in place to fight Sergio Martinez in April.

    At least not yet.

    "We're discussing several fights," said Pavlik's co-manager, Cameron Dunkin, when asked about a report on the Web site FightHype that the fighters have agreed to terms for an April bout. "That's just one of them."

    Added Top Rank spokesman, "That's the first I've heard of it."

    Dunkin and Top Rank officials are planning to meet with HBO representatives next weekend in New York to discuss Pavlik's future, which could include an April fight. There are four finalists to fight Pavlik: Martinez, Anthony Mundine, WBA middleweight champion Felix Sturm and one other that hasn't been named yet.

    Paul Williams, who was scheduled to fight Pavlik on Dec. 5, does not appear to be among the finalists. After agreeing to fight Pavlik for $1.2 million in December, Williams now wants to split the proceeds 50-50. Pavlik's handlers have refused. Williams earned a majority decision win over Martinez on Dec. 5.

    "That's not happening," Dunkin said.

    For more details, read Sunday's Vindicator or visit Vindy.com.
    The last un-mentioned fight might be Bute as HBO and Interbox are clearly keen on it.... I will watch a bit more in the french canadians news because there was some rumors lately, one including PAvlik and another one Edison Miranda.

    I know it ain't guna happen and I kno this won't be a popular post on here but I hope Mundine get's his shot. I know how most feel about him but I'd love to see him get his shot at a world class oponnent so we can really gage where his is at not only at middleweight but also on the world stage.

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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Martinez Set For April

    Taken into account the size difference I still think Martinez has all the tools to beat Pavlik in Hopkins fashion if he stays on point.Much rather see Pavlik Williams though.Pavlike better hurry and grab a biggie,blueprints out on him big time.

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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Martinez Set For April

    Very interesting fight.

    I think Martinez was robbed against Paul Williams; GREAT fight, crap decision.

    Williams kept coming ahead, but it was ineffective aggression and he made no adjustments. The clean effective shots were by Da Sex.
    Williams still took a few rds, but it was clearly Martinez' fight.
    I didn't think it was close. Williams was definitely in the fight, but he wasn't winning many rds.


    I like Pavlik too, but I think Martinez is gonna be too slick for him with the counter-punching, the speed, the ability to make adjustments, and that he's not...welll....I hate to say it, but Pavlik knows only one way to fight whereas Martinez can change gears. Not 1-dimensional.
    Martinex by decision...unless he gets ripped off again on the cards.



    I think Martinez is a much harder fight for Pavlik than Paul Williams would have been. Williams is much more hittable plus he's a volume puncher.
    Pavlik has a great chin, Williams ain't putting him down, and I think Pavlik would have Williams eyes swelling badly by rd 4.

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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Martinez Set For April

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Taken into account the size difference I still think Martinez has all the tools to beat Pavlik in Hopkins fashion if he stays on point.Much rather see Pavlik Williams though.Pavlike better hurry and grab a biggie,blueprints out on him big time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Nice, I actually think Martinez could win this one..He will be at a size disadvantage but he has great lateral movement which would give Pavlik fits

    Wouldn't mind seeing this
    Quote Originally Posted by *********** View Post
    This fight ain't gonna happen. Pavlik should be hitting the sauce right about now and soon he will punch his fist through yet another plate glass window and he will be penciling in opponents until the end of the year until Alfonso Gomez is ready to move up to 160
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    This fight ain't gonna happen. Pavlik should be hitting the sauce right about now and soon he will punch his fist through yet another plate glass window and he will be penciling in opponents until the end of the year until Alfonso Gomez is ready to move up to 160
    Pavlik wont win, you got a guy like Martinez who has electric handspeed and quick movement against a plodding 1-2 guy who has to set his feet to punch, when moving he pushes his punches awfully.. I can see a UD for Martinez, KP always has a punchers chance but like Chaos said he is singing Danny boy about now 3 sheets to the wind in some dive bar in youngstown
    Seriously, Pavlik receives more hate than probably any other top fighter aside from Mayweather and Pacquiao, which is a little odd because he seems to be a sincerely friendly guy. We all drink and do things that are regrettable especially in dive bars . Maybe after Pavlik fights another legit opponent and wins, he'll move back into people's good graces?

    Martinez does seem to be a bad style matchup for Pavlik. Pavlik has beat faster fighters before because of his strength and relentlessness, but Martinez moves well and more than anyone else Pavlik has fought, Martinez has the ability to adjust in fights. Also, in the Williams fight Martinez showed that he counters very well.

    I think Martinez may be a tougher style matchup for Pavlik than Williams. Williams doesn't move like Martinez and isn't as fast. Martinez won't be there to hit like Williams.

    Althugz, I'm not so sure Martinez will be a size disadvantage. His best weight may be 154, but he fought well at 160 against Williams who is around the same size (and longer) than Pavlik without the time usually necessary to prepare for moving up in weight although I think Martinez would have won if the fight had been at 154. What I'm trying to say say is that Martinez seems to be best at 154, but he is very close to his best at 160.

    Either way, Martinez is one of the best at around that weight. No doubt about it. Who else is there? Sturm and Williams really.
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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Martinez Set For April

    I think a 50-50 split with Williams would be fair. Kelly is the bigger name still, but Williams has been the one who has been active and actively seeking this fight. I think ppl would have equal interest in seeing Paul. At any rate, this would be more fodder for The Punisher to state how avoided he is.

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    Default Re: Pavlik vs Martinez Set For April

    I think Hopkins exposed some serious leaks in Pavlik's defense and I think Martinez's electric speed and movement makes him a stylistic nightmare for Pav.

    Props to Pav for taking this one on and is willing to test himself against the best, but I would go for Martinez taking this one on points.
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