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    Default Re: Maglinaggi: Khan is ducking Maidana

    Put the true people who know boxing IMO will know that if Khan beats Maidana would be more on an achievement than beating PM. I think Maidana because of his stlye would be more of a threat than PM.

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    Default Re: Maglinaggi: Khan is ducking Maidana

    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Put the true people who know boxing IMO will know that if Khan beats Maidana would be more on an achievement than beating PM. I think Maidana because of his stlye would be more of a threat than PM.
    The people who 'know boxing' don't necessarily line Khan's pockets though.

    Plus the people who know boxing will be quick to point out just how limited and talentless Maidana is if Khan beats him anyway.
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    Default Re: Maglinaggi: Khan is ducking Maidana

    But what if Maidana sparks Khan out in similar fashion to Prescott? Then it shows how Khan will never be able to handle a power punch. This is why I think he needs to fight him and show people that he can handle him, if hes so limited why not fight him? Khan keeps his title and answers some questions regarding weather he can take a dig and how he handles an agressive 140 fighter.

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    Default Re: Maglinaggi: Khan is ducking Maidana

    Surprised Malignaggi is saying this, but it is something we already know. Thought he would give the politically correct answer, a bit like Clottey fighting Pac man.
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    Default Re: Maglinaggi: Khan is ducking Maidana

    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Put the true people who know boxing IMO will know that if Khan beats Maidana would be more on an achievement than beating PM. I think Maidana because of his stlye would be more of a threat than PM.
    I disagree with that. Maidana, while an exciting fighter, is largely unproven. Malignaggi has demonstrated that he is among the best 140lb'ers in the world and if not an elite fighter than he is just a step below. All fighting Maidana would prove is that a) Khan can take a punch or b) that he's become a good enough fighter to avoid getting hit by a relatively crude and unproven slugger. Beating Malignaggi would demonstrate that Khan had arrived as a legitimate fighter.

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    Default Re: Maglinaggi: Khan is ducking Maidana

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Put the true people who know boxing IMO will know that if Khan beats Maidana would be more on an achievement than beating PM. I think Maidana because of his stlye would be more of a threat than PM.
    I disagree with that. Maidana, while an exciting fighter, is largely unproven. Malignaggi has demonstrated that he is among the best 140lb'ers in the world and if not an elite fighter than he is just a step below. All fighting Maidana would prove is that a) Khan can take a punch or b) that he's become a good enough fighter to avoid getting hit by a relatively crude and unproven slugger. Beating Malignaggi would demonstrate that Khan had arrived as a legitimate fighter.
    Disagree. I agree with Tam.

    Khan has already arrived as a legitimate fighter. He is ranked in the top five at his weight class in almost every poll. He has beat Kotelnik and Salita with ease both of which are top twenty junior welterweights and are decent boxers. However, Khan hasn't proved he can beat a big puncher on the top level. In addition, vacating a belt to avoid fighting his mandatory fight reflects a lack of confidence and really is unchampion-like especially if Maidana is "relatively crude and unproven." Why not extend your reign as champion and face Paulie in a title fight after dispatching of a "relatively crude" Maidana?

    You disagree that Maidana is not as big of a threat as Paulie?
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    Default Re: Maglinaggi: Khan is ducking Maidana

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Put the true people who know boxing IMO will know that if Khan beats Maidana would be more on an achievement than beating PM. I think Maidana because of his stlye would be more of a threat than PM.
    I disagree with that. Maidana, while an exciting fighter, is largely unproven. Malignaggi has demonstrated that he is among the best 140lb'ers in the world and if not an elite fighter than he is just a step below. All fighting Maidana would prove is that a) Khan can take a punch or b) that he's become a good enough fighter to avoid getting hit by a relatively crude and unproven slugger. Beating Malignaggi would demonstrate that Khan had arrived as a legitimate fighter.
    Disagree. I agree with Tam.

    Khan has already arrived as a legitimate fighter. He is ranked in the top five at his weight class in almost every poll. He has beat Kotelnik and Salita with ease both of which are top twenty junior welterweights and are decent boxers. However, Khan hasn't proved he can beat a big puncher on the top level. In addition, vacating a belt to avoid fighting his mandatory fight reflects a lack of confidence and really is unchampion-like especially if Maidana is "relatively crude and unproven." Why not extend your reign as champion and face Paulie in a title fight after dispatching of a "relatively crude" Maidana?

    You disagree that Maidana is not as big of a threat as Paulie?
    rankings don't really mean crap today, Kotelnik and Salita are both garbage, IMO Maidana was robbed against Kotelnik and well i view him as an equal threat as Malignaggi, Kotelnik has raw power and a relentless style, but Malignaggi has speed and overall better boxing skills than Maidana, and what he lacks in punching power he makes up for with his china and heart, both would be good fights for Khan, but i think Maidana has been waiting around for his shot a lot longer than Paulie

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    Default Re: Maglinaggi: Khan is ducking Maidana

    Khan has agreed terms with Maidana to fight him according to boxing scene. He might have a fight beforehand but apparently he's going to fight him at some point. It's a hell of a risky fight for Khan.

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    Default Re: Maglinaggi: Khan is ducking Maidana

    It's a risk that needs to be taken for Khan though and if it pays off it will fill Khan with so much confidence. He does need to fight a fighter like Maidana over a PM fight im certain of that.

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    Default Re: Maglinaggi: Khan is ducking Maidana

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Put the true people who know boxing IMO will know that if Khan beats Maidana would be more on an achievement than beating PM. I think Maidana because of his stlye would be more of a threat than PM.
    I disagree with that. Maidana, while an exciting fighter, is largely unproven. Malignaggi has demonstrated that he is among the best 140lb'ers in the world and if not an elite fighter than he is just a step below. All fighting Maidana would prove is that a) Khan can take a punch or b) that he's become a good enough fighter to avoid getting hit by a relatively crude and unproven slugger. Beating Malignaggi would demonstrate that Khan had arrived as a legitimate fighter.
    Disagree. I agree with Tam.

    Khan has already arrived as a legitimate fighter. He is ranked in the top five at his weight class in almost every poll. He has beat Kotelnik and Salita with ease both of which are top twenty junior welterweights and are decent boxers. However, Khan hasn't proved he can beat a big puncher on the top level. In addition, vacating a belt to avoid fighting his mandatory fight reflects a lack of confidence and really is unchampion-like especially if Maidana is "relatively crude and unproven." Why not extend your reign as champion and face Paulie in a title fight after dispatching of a "relatively crude" Maidana?

    You disagree that Maidana is not as big of a threat as Paulie?
    I think it can be argued both ways to be honest. I'm a fan of Khan and Maidana, but all Maidana has is a punch and he's still relatively unproven. He might end up as a better fighter than Malignaggi, but he's hasn't demonstrated that yet. It wouldn't surprise me to see Khan completely outclass Maidana, but I would be surprised if he completely outclassed Malignaggi. I'd rather see Khan - Maidana, but I think Malignaggi is a better fighter.
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    Default Re: Maglinaggi: Khan is ducking Maidana

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post

    I disagree with that. Maidana, while an exciting fighter, is largely unproven. Malignaggi has demonstrated that he is among the best 140lb'ers in the world and if not an elite fighter than he is just a step below. All fighting Maidana would prove is that a) Khan can take a punch or b) that he's become a good enough fighter to avoid getting hit by a relatively crude and unproven slugger. Beating Malignaggi would demonstrate that Khan had arrived as a legitimate fighter.
    Disagree. I agree with Tam.

    Khan has already arrived as a legitimate fighter. He is ranked in the top five at his weight class in almost every poll. He has beat Kotelnik and Salita with ease both of which are top twenty junior welterweights and are decent boxers. However, Khan hasn't proved he can beat a big puncher on the top level. In addition, vacating a belt to avoid fighting his mandatory fight reflects a lack of confidence and really is unchampion-like especially if Maidana is "relatively crude and unproven." Why not extend your reign as champion and face Paulie in a title fight after dispatching of a "relatively crude" Maidana?

    You disagree that Maidana is not as big of a threat as Paulie?
    I think it can be argued both ways to be honest. I'm a fan of Khan and Maidana, but all Maidana has is a punch and he's still relatively unproven. He might end up as a better fighter than Malignaggi, but he's hasn't demonstrated that yet. It wouldn't surprise me to see Khan completely outclass Maidana, but I would be surprised if he completely outclassed Malignaggi. I'd rather see Khan - Maidana, but I think Malignaggi is a better fighter.
    I agree with what your saying because long term I would like to see Khan fight PM. But my point is that Maidana can ONLY punch and this is a fight that Khan needs to get involved in to show that hes improving as a fighter. It's not that I am disagreeing with a fight with PM, I just believe that Khan still has a question mark against fighters with power. After Prescott put the beat down on Khan I bet a lot of people thought he would be a top man, but he wasnt he was just an ordinary fighter who can bang.

    For Khan Maidana does pose a threat because he has the power and an agressive style. Maidana IMO poses a lot more of a threat to Khan than PM. So back to my original point that Khan needs to fight a guy of Maidana's style to prove a lot to the fans regarding his ability to fight a guy with power. This is why if Khan doesnt fight him there isnt really an excuse. Maidana is the mandatory for the fight and he has earned the right for the shot at the title. Khan needs to get his act together because he has the ability to beat Madiana and he knows it. This is why it's annoying that hes not fighting him.

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    Default Re: Maglinaggi: Khan is ducking Maidana

    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post

    Disagree. I agree with Tam.

    Khan has already arrived as a legitimate fighter. He is ranked in the top five at his weight class in almost every poll. He has beat Kotelnik and Salita with ease both of which are top twenty junior welterweights and are decent boxers. However, Khan hasn't proved he can beat a big puncher on the top level. In addition, vacating a belt to avoid fighting his mandatory fight reflects a lack of confidence and really is unchampion-like especially if Maidana is "relatively crude and unproven." Why not extend your reign as champion and face Paulie in a title fight after dispatching of a "relatively crude" Maidana?

    You disagree that Maidana is not as big of a threat as Paulie?
    I think it can be argued both ways to be honest. I'm a fan of Khan and Maidana, but all Maidana has is a punch and he's still relatively unproven. He might end up as a better fighter than Malignaggi, but he's hasn't demonstrated that yet. It wouldn't surprise me to see Khan completely outclass Maidana, but I would be surprised if he completely outclassed Malignaggi. I'd rather see Khan - Maidana, but I think Malignaggi is a better fighter.
    I agree with what your saying because long term I would like to see Khan fight PM. But my point is that Maidana can ONLY punch and this is a fight that Khan needs to get involved in to show that hes improving as a fighter. It's not that I am disagreeing with a fight with PM, I just believe that Khan still has a question mark against fighters with power. After Prescott put the beat down on Khan I bet a lot of people thought he would be a top man, but he wasnt he was just an ordinary fighter who can bang.

    For Khan Maidana does pose a threat because he has the power and an agressive style. Maidana IMO poses a lot more of a threat to Khan than PM. So back to my original point that Khan needs to fight a guy of Maidana's style to prove a lot to the fans regarding his ability to fight a guy with power. This is why if Khan doesnt fight him there isnt really an excuse. Maidana is the mandatory for the fight and he has earned the right for the shot at the title. Khan needs to get his act together because he has the ability to beat Madiana and he knows it. This is why it's annoying that hes not fighting him.
    I don't think that beating Maidana really proves he's improved that much. When you look at the Prescott fight it's clear to see that Khan pretty much just got caught and that can happen to any fighter at any point. Nobody knows what would have happened had Khan stayed out of trouble that round.

    I don't even understand the 'he needs to fight a guy with power' scenario that people are obsessing over either. He has possibly the weakeast punch resistance in the sport. It doesn't need a hard hitter to KO him. Any moderately decent puncher at world level can probably do it, so surely it's more of a danger for him to fight somebody who can hit, but also has the skills to land at a decent rate...rather than wanting to see him in with a guy who can basically slug.

    The chance of him getting ko'd doesn't necessarily go up inline with his opponents power at 140. In fact i'd imagine Tim Bradley has a far greater chance of ko'ing him than Maidana does.
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    Default Re: Maglinaggi: Khan is ducking Maidana

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post

    I think it can be argued both ways to be honest. I'm a fan of Khan and Maidana, but all Maidana has is a punch and he's still relatively unproven. He might end up as a better fighter than Malignaggi, but he's hasn't demonstrated that yet. It wouldn't surprise me to see Khan completely outclass Maidana, but I would be surprised if he completely outclassed Malignaggi. I'd rather see Khan - Maidana, but I think Malignaggi is a better fighter.
    I agree with what your saying because long term I would like to see Khan fight PM. But my point is that Maidana can ONLY punch and this is a fight that Khan needs to get involved in to show that hes improving as a fighter. It's not that I am disagreeing with a fight with PM, I just believe that Khan still has a question mark against fighters with power. After Prescott put the beat down on Khan I bet a lot of people thought he would be a top man, but he wasnt he was just an ordinary fighter who can bang.

    For Khan Maidana does pose a threat because he has the power and an agressive style. Maidana IMO poses a lot more of a threat to Khan than PM. So back to my original point that Khan needs to fight a guy of Maidana's style to prove a lot to the fans regarding his ability to fight a guy with power. This is why if Khan doesnt fight him there isnt really an excuse. Maidana is the mandatory for the fight and he has earned the right for the shot at the title. Khan needs to get his act together because he has the ability to beat Madiana and he knows it. This is why it's annoying that hes not fighting him.
    I don't think that beating Maidana really proves he's improved that much. When you look at the Prescott fight it's clear to see that Khan pretty much just got caught and that can happen to any fighter at any point. Nobody knows what would have happened had Khan stayed out of trouble that round.

    I don't even understand the 'he needs to fight a guy with power' scenario that people are obsessing over either. He has possibly the weakeast punch resistance in the sport. It doesn't need a hard hitter to KO him. Any moderately decent puncher at world level can probably do it, so surely it's more of a danger for him to fight somebody who can hit, but also has the skills to land at a decent rate...rather than wanting to see him in with a guy who can basically slug.

    The chance of him getting ko'd doesn't necessarily go up inline with his opponents power at 140. In fact i'd imagine Tim Bradley has a far greater chance of ko'ing him than Maidana does.
    Totally agree 100% with that. The more skilled fighter with a half decent dig is more of a gamble than a wild big puncher for me.
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