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    Default Re: Is Mayweather ruining the sport of boxing?

    The fact that we do not have a Mayweather V Pacquaio fight happening in the forseeable future has soured my interest this year. I was convinced we would see two fights this year with a rematch a certainty, Mayweather can go and F*** himself! Boxing is slipping real fast, it is very disappointing.

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    Default Re: Is Mayweather ruining the sport of boxing?

    Mayweather has the right to ask for whatever he wants, as does any other fighter in the sport. If he is to be opposite another man in the ring, he has every right to make sure that guy is 100% clean as not to risk any serious injury. If the opponent has a problem with taking these tests, so be it. But Mayweather is certainly not out of line asking for them from all his opponents. Mosley has already said he would submit to such testing, so there should be no problem there.

    Mayweather also gets the lion's share because he is simply the bigger draw at this moment. If the fight were to happen back when Mayweather first called out Mosley in 99, Mosley would've rightfully gotten the lion's share. Again, it seems Mosley has acknowledged Mayweather is the bigger draw and has no problem with taking the smaller share to make it happen.

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    Default Re: Is Mayweather ruining the sport of boxing?

    As long as the Networks sign the checks and people pay out the money for a Marquez "name" event as oposed to division top rivals,it'll continue.And not just with Mayweather.We're suckers for this crap.This sport does not revolve around one man.

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    Default Re: Is Mayweather ruining the sport of boxing?

    I think an argument could be made that Pac is doing it as much damage as PBF. He continuosly gets fighters to come down in weight to fight at catchweight insead of taking them on at their natural weight, including winning a 147 belt fighting at 145. He then knocks back the biggest fight in memory due to a few simple blood tests and costs the fans the fight. His actions dent the reputation of the sport because it seems the number 1 fighter in the game is a drug taker. Not good.

    Mayweather isnt helping may i add, but i think its drawing a long bow to say that he alone is ruining boxing by himself.

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    Default Re: Is Mayweather ruining the sport of boxing?

    I don't see how you can comment too much about it till we see if the Mosley fight goes through. If it does I don't see what there's to complain about unless complaining is just a personal hobby, its the best fight out there outside of Mayweather-Pacquaio and while I don't like how Mayweather and some of his people handled some of the negotiations I don't see how the lions share of the blame would fall on Mayweather for that fight falling apart, I just don't and I'm no Mayweather fan.

    As for calling out those guys, he was thinking of a fight to replace the Pacquaio ones, there were no great options out there after Clottey agreed to fight Pacquaio, now that Mosley has fallen in his lap it appears that that's the direction they're going in. What is there to complain about with that?

    Except for who gets the larger purse? Seriously, I don't get it. Why first of all would you care? I doubt you're getting a cut and it isn't like Shane's going bankrupt. Second, its just the way of the world, Floyd is the bigger draw and the higher ranked PFP guy, the bigger draw is going to get the bigger purse, its just the way it is. There are so many better things to complain about then Mayweather getting the majority of the purse (dodgy decisions, Zahir Raheem being allowed to wear that crown to the ring, etc.)

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    Default Re: Is Mayweather ruining the sport of boxing?

    floyd recent damages done to boxing

    - retired temporarily when the possible opposition gets tougher

    - picked jmm for his comeback fight in a big mismatch fight

    - delayed the jmm fight by faking an injury

    - unrespectful and unsportsman-like action of not making weight for the jmm fight

    - demands additional rules over the present normal rules of boxing commissions that become the root cause of pac-floyd fight falling apart

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    Default Re: Is Mayweather ruining the sport of boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by zbolt View Post
    floyd recent damages done to boxing

    - retired temporarily when the possible opposition gets tougher

    - picked jmm for his comeback fight in a big mismatch fight

    - delayed the jmm fight by faking an injury

    - unrespectful and unsportsman-like action of not making weight for the jmm fight

    - demands additional rules over the present normal rules of boxing commissions that become the root cause of pac-floyd fight falling apart
    HAHA so asking for $10,000,000 per pound over weight isnt an addition o the normal rules? Pac started the whole one upmanship game, and when it go too much for him he walked away and walked away looking like a cheater. Another deluded PACTARD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zbolt View Post
    floyd recent damages done to boxing

    - retired temporarily when the possible opposition gets tougher

    - picked jmm for his comeback fight in a big mismatch fight

    - delayed the jmm fight by faking an injury

    - unrespectful and unsportsman-like action of not making weight for the jmm fight

    - demands additional rules over the present normal rules of boxing commissions that become the root cause of pac-floyd fight falling apart
    HAHA so asking for $10,000,000 per pound over weight isnt an addition o the normal rules? Pac started the whole one upmanship game, and when it go too much for him he walked away and walked away looking like a cheater. Another deluded PACTARD!
    understand what i stated. did that demand made the fight to fall apart? the weight penalty is not an addition to the rules, it's normal in most fight contracts tho i agree the penalty amount is exuberant and that is to really prevent floyd from messing with the weigh-in weight again. floyd is a proven weigh-in weight rule breaker

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    Default Re: Is Mayweather ruining the sport of boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by zbolt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zbolt View Post
    floyd recent damages done to boxing

    - retired temporarily when the possible opposition gets tougher

    - picked jmm for his comeback fight in a big mismatch fight

    - delayed the jmm fight by faking an injury

    - unrespectful and unsportsman-like action of not making weight for the jmm fight

    - demands additional rules over the present normal rules of boxing commissions that become the root cause of pac-floyd fight falling apart
    HAHA so asking for $10,000,000 per pound over weight isnt an addition o the normal rules? Pac started the whole one upmanship game, and when it go too much for him he walked away and walked away looking like a cheater. Another deluded PACTARD!
    understand what i stated. did that demand made the fight to fall apart? the weight penalty is not an addition to the rules, it's normal in most fight contracts tho i agree the penalty amount is exuberant and that is to really prevent floyd from messing with the weigh-in weight again. floyd is a proven weigh-in weight rule breaker
    so you admit that the fight fell apart because Pacquiao refused to take a perfectly logical drug test?!?

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    Default Re: Is Mayweather ruining the sport of boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zbolt View Post
    floyd recent damages done to boxing

    - retired temporarily when the possible opposition gets tougher

    - picked jmm for his comeback fight in a big mismatch fight

    - delayed the jmm fight by faking an injury

    - unrespectful and unsportsman-like action of not making weight for the jmm fight

    - demands additional rules over the present normal rules of boxing commissions that become the root cause of pac-floyd fight falling apart
    HAHA so asking for $10,000,000 per pound over weight isnt an addition o the normal rules? Pac started the whole one upmanship game, and when it go too much for him he walked away and walked away looking like a cheater. Another deluded PACTARD!

    Instead of the Pactard name calling you should take the post for its context....The Pacquiao fight was not mentioned it was just Floyds constant demands period.....

    Here are a few things people are failing to look at....

    Floyds resume since 2003,,,,,Tell me a fighter in their prime, show me one dangerous opponent, show me one fighter not on thier way out....Hell in the Hatton fight people seem to forget Hatton looked like shit against every WW he ever faced....Floyd knew Hatton was hand picked for his style...

    Where are Floyds PPV drawing powers?...

    PBF/DLH....DLH could sell a million PPV buys tripping old ladies donw the stairs FACT...Oscar was the draw for that fight..

    PBF/Hatton....Hatton wass the draw for that fight......

    PBF/Marquez....People wanted to see what kind of shape PBF was in for the (what everyone assumed was going to be a showdown with Pacquiao)....Real reason it sold so well....

    Floyd would not fight Mosley because he is not a PPV draw? (Floyds own words)...Well if Floyd is such a big PPV draw it should not matter who he faces.,.....

    Now we want to keep looking for smaller opponents to fill the void? A feather duster in Malignaggi?.....

    I am not a Floyd Fan nor a Pacquiao fan but to keep using the Pacquiao fight as a reason to say that PBF is not a pain in the ass and deny has really done little to add to boxings appeal is foolish......

    Please name what Floyd has done to make boxing more exciting? Fought Baldomir?, Gatti? Washed up DLH?, A smaller Marquez who struggkled with a one dimensional Diaz?....This is the actions of a great fighter?.......

    Make your money all you want but dont act as though these are great achievements.....

    Floyd can tell everyone it is raining all he wants but he forgets we can all see him pissing off the balcony
    Last edited by DaxxKahn; 01-20-2010 at 01:49 PM.

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    Default Re: Is Mayweather ruining the sport of boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zbolt View Post
    floyd recent damages done to boxing

    - retired temporarily when the possible opposition gets tougher

    - picked jmm for his comeback fight in a big mismatch fight

    - delayed the jmm fight by faking an injury

    - unrespectful and unsportsman-like action of not making weight for the jmm fight

    - demands additional rules over the present normal rules of boxing commissions that become the root cause of pac-floyd fight falling apart
    HAHA so asking for $10,000,000 per pound over weight isnt an addition o the normal rules? Pac started the whole one upmanship game, and when it go too much for him he walked away and walked away looking like a cheater. Another deluded PACTARD!

    Instead of the Pactard name calling you should take the post for its context....The Pacquiao fight was not mentioned it was just Floyds constant demands period.....

    Here are a few things people are failing to look at....

    Floyds resume since 2003,,,,,Tell me a fighter in their prime, show me one dangerous opponent, show me one fighter not on thier way out....Hell in the Hatton fight people seem to forget Hatton looked like shit against every WW he ever faced....Floyd knew Hatton was hand picked for his style...

    Where are Floyds PPV drawing powers?...

    PBF/DLH....DLH could sell a million PPV buys tripping old ladies donw the stairs FACT...Oscar was the draw for that fight..

    PBF/Hatton....Hatton wass the draw for that fight......

    PBF/Marquez....People wanted to see what kind of shape PBF was in for the (what everyone assumed was going to be a showdown with Pacquiao)....Real reason it sold so well....

    Floyd would not fight Mosley because he is not a PPV draw? (Floyds own words)...Well if Floyd is such a big PPV draw it should not matter who he faces.,.....

    Now we want to keep looking for smaller opponents to fill the void? A feather duster in Malignaggi?.....

    I am not a Floyd Fan nor a Pacquiao fan but to keep using the Pacquiao fight as a reason to say that PBF is not a pain in the ass and deny has really done little to add to boxings appeal is foolish......

    Please name what Floyd has done to make boxing more exciting? Fought Baldomir?, Gatti? Washed up DLH?, A smaller Marquez who struggkled with a one dimensional Diaz?....This is the actions of a great fighter?.......

    Make your money all you want but dont act as though these are great achievements.....

    Floyd can tell everyone it is raining all he wants but he forgets we can all see him pissing off the balcony
    Pac/DLH- DLH was still the draw, yet it sold a hell of a lot less than Mayweather/DLH hmmm

    Pac/Hatton- both guys had about even amount of pull in this, and yet it still did less than Mayweather/Hatton, hmmmmmmmm

    only reason Cotto/Pacquiao did slightly better than Mayweather/Marquez is because obviously it was more of an even matchup and they are both come forward fighters, there is no doubt in my mind Mayweather/Mosley will outsell Pacquiao/Clottey, and its due to the fact that it's 2 of the biggest names in boxing against each other, while Pacquiao/Clottey is not

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    I think an argument could be made that Pac is doing it as much damage as PBF. He continuosly gets fighters to come down in weight to fight at catchweight insead of taking them on at their natural weight, including winning a 147 belt fighting at 145. He then knocks back the biggest fight in memory due to a few simple blood tests and costs the fans the fight. His actions dent the reputation of the sport because it seems the number 1 fighter in the game is a drug taker. Not good.

    Mayweather isnt helping may i add, but i think its drawing a long bow to say that he alone is ruining boxing by himself.
    Tell me which is worse...
    Scheduling a fight at 145... and fighting at 145 and winning.
    Scheduling a fight at 144 coming in overweight against an opponent 2 divisions smaller than you and being unwilling to divulge your fight night weight!

    Granted I didn't hear a peep out of Cotto or Marquez, because they are real fighters. They know a fight is just a stack of circumstances some in their favor some not :/

    I would really just rather see Mayweather fight and stop holding up the whole boxing world up with worrying about who he fights next. I think everyone wants to fight him now because he has looked very beatable since fighting De La Hoya. Along with the multi million payday for just showing up in shape. Game's up.
    "Floyd needs to inject Xylocaine into his balls to gain the courage to fight Pacquiao."

    - and I quote from some random guy on the internet

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    Default Re: Is Mayweather ruining the sport of boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyFolds View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    I think an argument could be made that Pac is doing it as much damage as PBF. He continuosly gets fighters to come down in weight to fight at catchweight insead of taking them on at their natural weight, including winning a 147 belt fighting at 145. He then knocks back the biggest fight in memory due to a few simple blood tests and costs the fans the fight. His actions dent the reputation of the sport because it seems the number 1 fighter in the game is a drug taker. Not good.

    Mayweather isnt helping may i add, but i think its drawing a long bow to say that he alone is ruining boxing by himself.
    Tell me which is worse...
    Scheduling a fight at 145... and fighting at 145 and winning.
    Scheduling a fight at 144 coming in overweight against an opponent 2 divisions smaller than you and being unwilling to divulge your fight night weight!

    Granted I didn't hear a peep out of Cotto or Marquez, because they are real fighters. They know a fight is just a stack of circumstances some in their favor some not :/

    I would really just rather see Mayweather fight and stop holding up the whole boxing world up with worrying about who he fights next. I think everyone wants to fight him now because he has looked very beatable since fighting De La Hoya. Along with the multi million payday for just showing up in shape. Game's up.
    I noticed you said nothing about the fact Pac walked away from the fight of the decade due to not wanting to take a drug test which is far worse than anything PBF has done.

    And who exactly has Mayweather looked 'very beatable' against since fighting DLH? He has had 2 figts since then, one a KO victory and the other a complete points shut out..... Your theory is dying a painful death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Mayweather can go and F*** himself!
    Once again, Pacquiao comes out smelling of roses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Mayweather can go and F*** himself!
    Once again, Pacquiao comes out smelling of roses.
    And so he should. He has KO'd DLH, Hatton and Cotto in his last 3 fights, what has Mayweather done these past 18 months? Pac is the man at the moment and Mayweather and his fans find that hard to swallow. Mayweather is simply chicken as he realises that Pac is his biggest threat yet.

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