Is Mayweather ruining the sport of boxing?

[eagle]

I think an argument could be made that Pac is doing it as much damage as PBF. He continuosly gets fighters to come down in weight to fight at catchweight insead of taking them on at their natural weight, including winning a 147 belt fighting at 145. He then knocks back the biggest fight in memory due to a few simple blood tests and costs the fans the fight. His actions dent the reputation of the sport because it seems the number 1 fighter in the game is a drug taker. Not good.

Mayweather isnt helping may i add, but i think its drawing a long bow to say that he alone is ruining boxing by himself.

[OumaFan]

I don't see how you can comment too much about it till we see if the Mosley fight goes through. If it does I don't see what there's to complain about unless complaining is just a personal hobby, its the best fight out there outside of Mayweather-Pacquaio and while I don't like how Mayweather and some of his people handled some of the negotiations I don't see how the lions share of the blame would fall on Mayweather for that fight falling apart, I just don't and I'm no Mayweather fan.

As for calling out those guys, he was thinking of a fight to replace the Pacquaio ones, there were no great options out there after Clottey agreed to fight Pacquaio, now that Mosley has fallen in his lap it appears that that's the direction they're going in. What is there to complain about with that?

Except for who gets the larger purse? Seriously, I don't get it. Why first of all would you care? I doubt you're getting a cut and it isn't like Shane's going bankrupt. Second, its just the way of the world, Floyd is the bigger draw and the higher ranked PFP guy, the bigger draw is going to get the bigger purse, its just the way it is. There are so many better things to complain about then Mayweather getting the majority of the purse (dodgy decisions, Zahir Raheem being allowed to wear that crown to the ring, etc.)

[zbolt]

floyd recent damages done to boxing

- retired temporarily when the possible opposition gets tougher

- picked jmm for his comeback fight in a big mismatch fight

- delayed the jmm fight by faking an injury

- unrespectful and unsportsman-like action of not making weight for the jmm fight

- demands additional rules over the present normal rules of boxing commissions that become the root cause of pac-floyd fight falling apart

[eagle]

floyd recent damages done to boxing

- retired temporarily when the possible opposition gets tougher

- picked jmm for his comeback fight in a big mismatch fight

- delayed the jmm fight by faking an injury

- unrespectful and unsportsman-like action of not making weight for the jmm fight

- demands additional rules over the present normal rules of boxing commissions that become the root cause of pac-floyd fight falling apart

HAHA so asking for $10,000,000 per pound over weight isnt an addition o the normal rules? Pac started the whole one upmanship game, and when it go too much for him he walked away and walked away looking like a cheater. Another deluded PACTARD!

[zbolt]

floyd recent damages done to boxing

- retired temporarily when the possible opposition gets tougher

- picked jmm for his comeback fight in a big mismatch fight

- delayed the jmm fight by faking an injury

- unrespectful and unsportsman-like action of not making weight for the jmm fight

- demands additional rules over the present normal rules of boxing commissions that become the root cause of pac-floyd fight falling apart

HAHA so asking for $10,000,000 per pound over weight isnt an addition o the normal rules? Pac started the whole one upmanship game, and when it go too much for him he walked away and walked away looking like a cheater. Another deluded PACTARD!

understand what i stated. did that demand made the fight to fall apart? the weight penalty is not an addition to the rules, it's normal in most fight contracts tho i agree the penalty amount is exuberant and that is to really prevent floyd from messing with the weigh-in weight again. floyd is a proven weigh-in weight rule breaker

[ElTerribleMorales]

floyd recent damages done to boxing

- retired temporarily when the possible opposition gets tougher

- picked jmm for his comeback fight in a big mismatch fight

- delayed the jmm fight by faking an injury

- unrespectful and unsportsman-like action of not making weight for the jmm fight

- demands additional rules over the present normal rules of boxing commissions that become the root cause of pac-floyd fight falling apart

HAHA so asking for $10,000,000 per pound over weight isnt an addition o the normal rules? Pac started the whole one upmanship game, and when it go too much for him he walked away and walked away looking like a cheater. Another deluded PACTARD!

understand what i stated. did that demand made the fight to fall apart? the weight penalty is not an addition to the rules, it's normal in most fight contracts tho i agree the penalty amount is exuberant and that is to really prevent floyd from messing with the weigh-in weight again. floyd is a proven weigh-in weight rule breaker

so you admit that the fight fell apart because Pacquiao refused to take a perfectly logical drug test?!?

[zbolt]

HAHA so asking for $10,000,000 per pound over weight isnt an addition o the normal rules? Pac started the whole one upmanship game, and when it go too much for him he walked away and walked away looking like a cheater. Another deluded PACTARD!

understand what i stated. did that demand made the fight to fall apart? the weight penalty is not an addition to the rules, it's normal in most fight contracts tho i agree the penalty amount is exuberant and that is to really prevent floyd from messing with the weigh-in weight again. floyd is a proven weigh-in weight rule breaker

so you admit that the fight fell apart because Pacquiao refused to take a perfectly logical drug test?!?

partly yes but the root cause is floyd's additional rules demand over and above the existing normal boxing commission rules

[eagle]

understand what i stated. did that demand made the fight to fall apart? the weight penalty is not an addition to the rules, it's normal in most fight contracts tho i agree the penalty amount is exuberant and that is to really prevent floyd from messing with the weigh-in weight again. floyd is a proven weigh-in weight rule breaker

so you admit that the fight fell apart because Pacquiao refused to take a perfectly logical drug test?!?

partly yes but the root cause is floyd's additional rules demand over and above the existing normal boxing commission rules

Partly? You gotta remember PBF agreed to Pacs demands, Pac didnt agree to Floyds. Pac walked away and organised another fight first. $10,000,000 per pound is an addition to the normal rules, so Pac was first to play that game. You could easily argue that if he didnt make that ridiculous demand Floyd wouldnt have demanded the drug tests in reply.

[DaxxKahn]

floyd recent damages done to boxing

- retired temporarily when the possible opposition gets tougher

- picked jmm for his comeback fight in a big mismatch fight

- delayed the jmm fight by faking an injury

- unrespectful and unsportsman-like action of not making weight for the jmm fight

- demands additional rules over the present normal rules of boxing commissions that become the root cause of pac-floyd fight falling apart

HAHA so asking for $10,000,000 per pound over weight isnt an addition o the normal rules? Pac started the whole one upmanship game, and when it go too much for him he walked away and walked away looking like a cheater. Another deluded PACTARD!

Instead of the Pactard name calling you should take the post for its context....The Pacquiao fight was not mentioned it was just Floyds constant demands period.....

Here are a few things people are failing to look at....

Floyds resume since 2003,,,,,Tell me a fighter in their prime, show me one dangerous opponent, show me one fighter not on thier way out....Hell in the Hatton fight people seem to forget Hatton looked like shit against every WW he ever faced....Floyd knew Hatton was hand picked for his style...

Where are Floyds PPV drawing powers?...

PBF/DLH....DLH could sell a million PPV buys tripping old ladies donw the stairs FACT...Oscar was the draw for that fight..

PBF/Hatton....Hatton wass the draw for that fight......

PBF/Marquez....People wanted to see what kind of shape PBF was in for the (what everyone assumed was going to be a showdown with Pacquiao)....Real reason it sold so well....

Floyd would not fight Mosley because he is not a PPV draw? (Floyds own words)...Well if Floyd is such a big PPV draw it should not matter who he faces.,.....

Now we want to keep looking for smaller opponents to fill the void? A feather duster in Malignaggi?.....

I am not a Floyd Fan nor a Pacquiao fan but to keep using the Pacquiao fight as a reason to say that PBF is not a pain in the ass and deny has really done little to add to boxings appeal is foolish......

Please name what Floyd has done to make boxing more exciting? Fought Baldomir?, Gatti? Washed up DLH?, A smaller Marquez who struggkled with a one dimensional Diaz?....This is the actions of a great fighter?.......

Make your money all you want but dont act as though these are great achievements.....

Floyd can tell everyone it is raining all he wants but he forgets we can all see him pissing off the balcony

[ElTerribleMorales]

floyd recent damages done to boxing

- retired temporarily when the possible opposition gets tougher

- picked jmm for his comeback fight in a big mismatch fight

- delayed the jmm fight by faking an injury

- unrespectful and unsportsman-like action of not making weight for the jmm fight

- demands additional rules over the present normal rules of boxing commissions that become the root cause of pac-floyd fight falling apart

HAHA so asking for $10,000,000 per pound over weight isnt an addition o the normal rules? Pac started the whole one upmanship game, and when it go too much for him he walked away and walked away looking like a cheater. Another deluded PACTARD!

Instead of the Pactard name calling you should take the post for its context....The Pacquiao fight was not mentioned it was just Floyds constant demands period.....

Here are a few things people are failing to look at....

Floyds resume since 2003,,,,,Tell me a fighter in their prime, show me one dangerous opponent, show me one fighter not on thier way out....Hell in the Hatton fight people seem to forget Hatton looked like shit against every WW he ever faced....Floyd knew Hatton was hand picked for his style...

Where are Floyds PPV drawing powers?...

PBF/DLH....DLH could sell a million PPV buys tripping old ladies donw the stairs FACT...Oscar was the draw for that fight..

PBF/Hatton....Hatton wass the draw for that fight......

PBF/Marquez....People wanted to see what kind of shape PBF was in for the (what everyone assumed was going to be a showdown with Pacquiao)....Real reason it sold so well....

Floyd would not fight Mosley because he is not a PPV draw? (Floyds own words)...Well if Floyd is such a big PPV draw it should not matter who he faces.,.....

Now we want to keep looking for smaller opponents to fill the void? A feather duster in Malignaggi?.....

I am not a Floyd Fan nor a Pacquiao fan but to keep using the Pacquiao fight as a reason to say that PBF is not a pain in the ass and deny has really done little to add to boxings appeal is foolish......

Please name what Floyd has done to make boxing more exciting? Fought Baldomir?, Gatti? Washed up DLH?, A smaller Marquez who struggkled with a one dimensional Diaz?....This is the actions of a great fighter?.......

Make your money all you want but dont act as though these are great achievements.....

Floyd can tell everyone it is raining all he wants but he forgets we can all see him pissing off the balcony

Pac/DLH- DLH was still the draw, yet it sold a hell of a lot less than Mayweather/DLH hmmm

Pac/Hatton- both guys had about even amount of pull in this, and yet it still did less than Mayweather/Hatton, hmmmmmmmm

only reason Cotto/Pacquiao did slightly better than Mayweather/Marquez is because obviously it was more of an even matchup and they are both come forward fighters, there is no doubt in my mind Mayweather/Mosley will outsell Pacquiao/Clottey, and its due to the fact that it's 2 of the biggest names in boxing against each other, while Pacquiao/Clottey is not

[Gandalf]

HAHA so asking for $10,000,000 per pound over weight isnt an addition o the normal rules? Pac started the whole one upmanship game, and when it go too much for him he walked away and walked away looking like a cheater. Another deluded PACTARD!

Instead of the Pactard name calling you should take the post for its context....The Pacquiao fight was not mentioned it was just Floyds constant demands period.....

Here are a few things people are failing to look at....

Floyds resume since 2003,,,,,Tell me a fighter in their prime, show me one dangerous opponent, show me one fighter not on thier way out....Hell in the Hatton fight people seem to forget Hatton looked like shit against every WW he ever faced....Floyd knew Hatton was hand picked for his style...

Where are Floyds PPV drawing powers?...

PBF/DLH....DLH could sell a million PPV buys tripping old ladies donw the stairs FACT...Oscar was the draw for that fight..

PBF/Hatton....Hatton wass the draw for that fight......

PBF/Marquez....People wanted to see what kind of shape PBF was in for the (what everyone assumed was going to be a showdown with Pacquiao)....Real reason it sold so well....

Floyd would not fight Mosley because he is not a PPV draw? (Floyds own words)...Well if Floyd is such a big PPV draw it should not matter who he faces.,.....

Now we want to keep looking for smaller opponents to fill the void? A feather duster in Malignaggi?.....

I am not a Floyd Fan nor a Pacquiao fan but to keep using the Pacquiao fight as a reason to say that PBF is not a pain in the ass and deny has really done little to add to boxings appeal is foolish......

Please name what Floyd has done to make boxing more exciting? Fought Baldomir?, Gatti? Washed up DLH?, A smaller Marquez who struggkled with a one dimensional Diaz?....This is the actions of a great fighter?.......

Make your money all you want but dont act as though these are great achievements.....

Floyd can tell everyone it is raining all he wants but he forgets we can all see him pissing off the balcony

Pac/DLH- DLH was still the draw, yet it sold a hell of a lot less than Mayweather/DLH hmmm

Pac/Hatton- both guys had about even amount of pull in this, and yet it still did less than Mayweather/Hatton, hmmmmmmmm

only reason Cotto/Pacquiao did slightly better than Mayweather/Marquez is because obviously it was more of an even matchup and they are both come forward fighters, there is no doubt in my mind Mayweather/Mosley will outsell Pacquiao/Clottey, and its due to the fact that it's 2 of the biggest names in boxing against each other, while Pacquiao/Clottey is not

Pac/DLH didn't sell as well because it was Oscar on a recent loss. Again.

Pac got second desserts against Hatton. Mayweather got prime pickings.

Pac/Cotto did better than Mayweather/Marquez because it was a far better matchup.

[antimoron]

HAHA so asking for $10,000,000 per pound over weight isnt an addition o the normal rules? Pac started the whole one upmanship game, and when it go too much for him he walked away and walked away looking like a cheater. Another deluded PACTARD!

Instead of the Pactard name calling you should take the post for its context....The Pacquiao fight was not mentioned it was just Floyds constant demands period.....

Here are a few things people are failing to look at....

Floyds resume since 2003,,,,,Tell me a fighter in their prime, show me one dangerous opponent, show me one fighter not on thier way out....Hell in the Hatton fight people seem to forget Hatton looked like shit against every WW he ever faced....Floyd knew Hatton was hand picked for his style...

Where are Floyds PPV drawing powers?...

PBF/DLH....DLH could sell a million PPV buys tripping old ladies donw the stairs FACT...Oscar was the draw for that fight..

PBF/Hatton....Hatton wass the draw for that fight......

PBF/Marquez....People wanted to see what kind of shape PBF was in for the (what everyone assumed was going to be a showdown with Pacquiao)....Real reason it sold so well....

Floyd would not fight Mosley because he is not a PPV draw? (Floyds own words)...Well if Floyd is such a big PPV draw it should not matter who he faces.,.....

Now we want to keep looking for smaller opponents to fill the void? A feather duster in Malignaggi?.....

I am not a Floyd Fan nor a Pacquiao fan but to keep using the Pacquiao fight as a reason to say that PBF is not a pain in the ass and deny has really done little to add to boxings appeal is foolish......

Please name what Floyd has done to make boxing more exciting? Fought Baldomir?, Gatti? Washed up DLH?, A smaller Marquez who struggkled with a one dimensional Diaz?....This is the actions of a great fighter?.......

Make your money all you want but dont act as though these are great achievements.....

Floyd can tell everyone it is raining all he wants but he forgets we can all see him pissing off the balcony

Pac/DLH- DLH was still the draw, yet it sold a hell of a lot less than Mayweather/DLH hmmm

PAC/DLH - it was joke.. 130 vs 154 to meet at 147..

Pac/Hatton- both guys had about even amount of pull in this, and yet it still did less than Mayweather/Hatton, hmmmmmmmm

pac/hitman did less bcoz flips don't buy ppv

only reason Cotto/Pacquiao did slightly better than Mayweather/Marquez is because obviously it was more of an even matchup and they are both come forward fighters, there is no doubt in my mind Mayweather/Mosley will outsell Pacquiao/Clottey, and its due to the fact that it's 2 of the biggest names in boxing against each other, while Pacquiao/Clottey is not

cotto/pac did better coz people want it.. Mayweather/Mosley will do more than Pac/Clottey coz both PBF/Mosley are AMERICANS while both Pac/Clottey are outsiders..

[JonnyFolds]

The point of this post was to try and get some attention back to fighting and keeping everything on a level playing field. I am glad we have a fighter in Mayweather for the sport of boxing. I think he's done an incredible job with his career. He is a very talented fighter and he has risen to the occasion every chance he had in his career.

The problem I have with him is NOW. Him calling HBO a racists station full of uncle toms. He didn't mind saying all of this after he "retired" But he doesn't seem to mind who the checks are coming from now, does he? That is just pathetic taht he is still and always will fight on their network after the slanderous things he proposed.. At least Fedor Emilinanko has the gusto/intelligence/savy to create his own fighting league. Maybe mayweather can go do that instead of trying to pick apart a system for his own benefit. His recent arguements could have been made at ANYTIME in his long drawn out career (and yes, it is drawn out as hell).

My point of this post should really have read "Why is the world waiting on who Mayweather will fight next." I had no idea people would take this right to heart.


There was a whole post about calling Filipinos "Flips" and how its not really a nice thing to say. Pinoys?

[DaxxKahn]

HAHA so asking for $10,000,000 per pound over weight isnt an addition o the normal rules? Pac started the whole one upmanship game, and when it go too much for him he walked away and walked away looking like a cheater. Another deluded PACTARD!

Instead of the Pactard name calling you should take the post for its context....The Pacquiao fight was not mentioned it was just Floyds constant demands period.....

Here are a few things people are failing to look at....

Floyds resume since 2003,,,,,Tell me a fighter in their prime, show me one dangerous opponent, show me one fighter not on thier way out....Hell in the Hatton fight people seem to forget Hatton looked like shit against every WW he ever faced....Floyd knew Hatton was hand picked for his style...

Where are Floyds PPV drawing powers?...

PBF/DLH....DLH could sell a million PPV buys tripping old ladies donw the stairs FACT...Oscar was the draw for that fight..

PBF/Hatton....Hatton wass the draw for that fight......

PBF/Marquez....People wanted to see what kind of shape PBF was in for the (what everyone assumed was going to be a showdown with Pacquiao)....Real reason it sold so well....

Floyd would not fight Mosley because he is not a PPV draw? (Floyds own words)...Well if Floyd is such a big PPV draw it should not matter who he faces.,.....

Now we want to keep looking for smaller opponents to fill the void? A feather duster in Malignaggi?.....

I am not a Floyd Fan nor a Pacquiao fan but to keep using the Pacquiao fight as a reason to say that PBF is not a pain in the ass and deny has really done little to add to boxings appeal is foolish......

Please name what Floyd has done to make boxing more exciting? Fought Baldomir?, Gatti? Washed up DLH?, A smaller Marquez who struggkled with a one dimensional Diaz?....This is the actions of a great fighter?.......

Make your money all you want but dont act as though these are great achievements.....

Floyd can tell everyone it is raining all he wants but he forgets we can all see him pissing off the balcony

Pac/DLH- DLH was still the draw, yet it sold a hell of a lot less than Mayweather/DLH hmmm

Pac/Hatton- both guys had about even amount of pull in this, and yet it still did less than Mayweather/Hatton, hmmmmmmmm

only reason Cotto/Pacquiao did slightly better than Mayweather/Marquez is because obviously it was more of an even matchup and they are both come forward fighters, there is no doubt in my mind Mayweather/Mosley will outsell Pacquiao/Clottey, and its due to the fact that it's 2 of the biggest names in boxing against each other, while Pacquiao/Clottey is not

For Manny/DLH people expecte3d a slaughter due to obvious reasons so why pay money for a one sided fight they could see on HBO for free 2 weeks later.....Turned out people were right just not in the direction expected.....

Hatton had given shit performances with the exception of Malignaggi and even his own UK fan base dropped according to live gates outside the UK.......

[ElTerribleMorales]

Instead of the Pactard name calling you should take the post for its context....The Pacquiao fight was not mentioned it was just Floyds constant demands period.....

Here are a few things people are failing to look at....

Floyds resume since 2003,,,,,Tell me a fighter in their prime, show me one dangerous opponent, show me one fighter not on thier way out....Hell in the Hatton fight people seem to forget Hatton looked like shit against every WW he ever faced....Floyd knew Hatton was hand picked for his style...

Where are Floyds PPV drawing powers?...

PBF/DLH....DLH could sell a million PPV buys tripping old ladies donw the stairs FACT...Oscar was the draw for that fight..

PBF/Hatton....Hatton wass the draw for that fight......

PBF/Marquez....People wanted to see what kind of shape PBF was in for the (what everyone assumed was going to be a showdown with Pacquiao)....Real reason it sold so well....

Floyd would not fight Mosley because he is not a PPV draw? (Floyds own words)...Well if Floyd is such a big PPV draw it should not matter who he faces.,.....

Now we want to keep looking for smaller opponents to fill the void? A feather duster in Malignaggi?.....

I am not a Floyd Fan nor a Pacquiao fan but to keep using the Pacquiao fight as a reason to say that PBF is not a pain in the ass and deny has really done little to add to boxings appeal is foolish......

Please name what Floyd has done to make boxing more exciting? Fought Baldomir?, Gatti? Washed up DLH?, A smaller Marquez who struggkled with a one dimensional Diaz?....This is the actions of a great fighter?.......

Make your money all you want but dont act as though these are great achievements.....

Floyd can tell everyone it is raining all he wants but he forgets we can all see him pissing off the balcony

Pac/DLH- DLH was still the draw, yet it sold a hell of a lot less than Mayweather/DLH hmmm

Pac/Hatton- both guys had about even amount of pull in this, and yet it still did less than Mayweather/Hatton, hmmmmmmmm

only reason Cotto/Pacquiao did slightly better than Mayweather/Marquez is because obviously it was more of an even matchup and they are both come forward fighters, there is no doubt in my mind Mayweather/Mosley will outsell Pacquiao/Clottey, and its due to the fact that it's 2 of the biggest names in boxing against each other, while Pacquiao/Clottey is not

For Manny/DLH people expecte3d a slaughter due to obvious reasons so why pay money for a one sided fight they could see on HBO for free 2 weeks later.....Turned out people were right just not in the direction expected.....

Hatton had given shit performances with the exception of Malignaggi and even his own UK fan base dropped according to live gates outside the UK.......

Mayweather/Marquez was expected to be a one sided fight as it was and still did well, what's the excuse for Pacquiao/Diaz?