Mike Tyson v Sonny Liston

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You got it all wrong. I'm a huge Tyson fan. And I would love to say Tyson would have chopped Ali in two. It just isn't true. Tyson beat Holmes and Tillis, but look at what they were able to do to a prime or near prime Tyson when neither man was considered at the top of the game. Holmes hit Tyson with his jab wayyyyy too much, particularly with Tyson's bob and weave defense. A prime Ali would have been able to do even more and how Tillis blunted most of Tyson's offense by playing keep away would have been employed by Ali as well.

Playing keep away and flicking out a week jab wouldnt keep Tyson off them, neither would it get them a win on the judges cards

Holmes could have ran like a biitch all night and flicked out his little sissy jab to the 12th round but he wouldnt have beaten him, thats all he would have been able to hope to do against Mike, anyone who trys to plant their feet against that Tyson gets knocked out and Ali wouldnt have lasted long on the ropes either.

Prime Ali had legs and didn't lay on the ropes. What I'm saying is prime Ali's jab would have been more effective than Holmes' and his movement was better than Tillis'. He would have been a super version of both guys and no one had a better chin than Ali. Had Mike caught him clean he would have still been there. The question is what would a demoralized Tyson have done in the later rounds once his power didn't have a visible effect and he felt himself tire. Tyson could be intimidated and I think Ali would have been the one to do it.

Are you joking?

Ali got dropped by Banks, Cooper, Frazier and Wepner

Tysons got a better jaw than Ali by far, even an out of shape and rusty old Tyson took Lewis's best right hands for 8 rounds and then had to be pushed down Oh, he also wan a round, so he did better against Lewis then Holmes did against him in that comeback