Is Mayweather ruining the sport of boxing?

[JonnyFolds]

The point of this post was to try and get some attention back to fighting and keeping everything on a level playing field. I am glad we have a fighter in Mayweather for the sport of boxing. I think he's done an incredible job with his career. He is a very talented fighter and he has risen to the occasion every chance he had in his career.

The problem I have with him is NOW. Him calling HBO a racists station full of uncle toms. He didn't mind saying all of this after he "retired" But he doesn't seem to mind who the checks are coming from now, does he? That is just pathetic taht he is still and always will fight on their network after the slanderous things he proposed.. At least Fedor Emilinanko has the gusto/intelligence/savy to create his own fighting league. Maybe mayweather can go do that instead of trying to pick apart a system for his own benefit. His recent arguements could have been made at ANYTIME in his long drawn out career (and yes, it is drawn out as hell).

My point of this post should really have read "Why is the world waiting on who Mayweather will fight next." I had no idea people would take this right to heart.


There was a whole post about calling Filipinos "Flips" and how its not really a nice thing to say. Pinoys?

[eagle]

I think an argument could be made that Pac is doing it as much damage as PBF. He continuosly gets fighters to come down in weight to fight at catchweight insead of taking them on at their natural weight, including winning a 147 belt fighting at 145. He then knocks back the biggest fight in memory due to a few simple blood tests and costs the fans the fight. His actions dent the reputation of the sport because it seems the number 1 fighter in the game is a drug taker. Not good.

Mayweather isnt helping may i add, but i think its drawing a long bow to say that he alone is ruining boxing by himself.

Tell me which is worse...
Scheduling a fight at 145... and fighting at 145 and winning.
Scheduling a fight at 144 coming in overweight against an opponent 2 divisions smaller than you and being unwilling to divulge your fight night weight!

Granted I didn't hear a peep out of Cotto or Marquez, because they are real fighters. They know a fight is just a stack of circumstances some in their favor some not :/

I would really just rather see Mayweather fight and stop holding up the whole boxing world up with worrying about who he fights next. I think everyone wants to fight him now because he has looked very beatable since fighting De La Hoya. Along with the multi million payday for just showing up in shape. Game's up.

I noticed you said nothing about the fact Pac walked away from the fight of the decade due to not wanting to take a drug test which is far worse than anything PBF has done.

And who exactly has Mayweather looked 'very beatable' against since fighting DLH? He has had 2 figts since then, one a KO victory and the other a complete points shut out..... Your theory is dying a painful death.

[ninjaspy3]

The question should be

Do uninformed/uneducated followers of Boxing like you ruin this place?

YES!!!!!!!!!

What on earth would possess Mayweather to make and break all these fights, adn calling out these top 20 divisional fighters, versus top 20 P4P fighters? Saul Alvarez?? Mlignaggi?? Bradley?? C'mon money... there are guys in your division... I Promise!

Make and break? Dude this is boxing if the terms arent agreeable there not agreeable.. What are the so called fights he broke? Go ahead tardo tell me the Pac fight



Why would I believe anything you say anyway, your full of shiit 99% of the time

Why is Floyd getting the lions share? Cant they just fight for the larger part of the purse?

Oh I dont know, maybe because its been standard practice for about 50+ years that the bigger draw gets the majority and seeing Floyd is the # 3-4 all time PPV seller in the history of the sport would galvanize that

But your right Jonnycomelately this is all Floyds fault, damn him straight to hell, sit him between Hitler and Dahmer in eternal damnation

Hi JTRock thanks for your input. I think you have a very elegant way of expressing yourself. Do you like men?

JonnyFolds, do you like men?

Sorry, I had to do that. I think JTRock made a good point and then this reply is the result? I like to see sensible back and forth argument.

Anyway, I think the whole thread is way off track to begin with to suggest that one man could ruin boxing if he tried. Here's a question, "Is Ruiz ruining the sport of boxing"? I think thats a much more interesting question.

[Jody Lane]

The whole silly shit of catchweights, new drug testing and whatnot has me sick of hearing either fighter's name right now.

[Mattyhitman]

The whole silly shit of catchweights, new drug testing and whatnot has me sick of hearing either fighter's name right now.

Ditto !

Oh and JonnyFolds, i'd be carefull with this thread, i can see you getting panned even more if ya carry on with your shinanigans

[JonnyFolds]

I dunno what to say I make points and JT says I am "full of shit 99% of the time"

I am a "tardo"

"uninformed/uneducated followers of Boxing like you ruin this place"

I don't have a problem with anyone on here until they start turning the focus of the post to me personally. I do not think I am coming out of left field. A lot of people feel like I do, and I am that voice. I do NOT resort to name calling. I apologize for asking if JTRock likes men.

My job here is to make legitimate, valid points. Is there anything wrong with that? If you don't agree make counter arguement. If you think I am just crazy go to the next post.

[milmascaras1]

on the contrary, i think mayweather jr is great for the sport. it's been proven that since de la hoya retired, he's the biggest ppv star today. love him or hate him, he sells because he comes across as this arrogant gangster but the truth is, mayweather jr. doesn't always act this way. he acts gangster like to sell tickets but i've seen him at talk shows and he's a very personable person who could be quite likeable for some people.

[GAME]

Floyd isnt ruining boxing. If anyone is its Pac with his weight draining stipulations, diamond belts and walking away from the biggest fight in boxing to fight a guy who lost to Baldimor.

[DaxxKahn]

HAHA so asking for $10,000,000 per pound over weight isnt an addition o the normal rules? Pac started the whole one upmanship game, and when it go too much for him he walked away and walked away looking like a cheater. Another deluded PACTARD!

Instead of the Pactard name calling you should take the post for its context....The Pacquiao fight was not mentioned it was just Floyds constant demands period.....

Here are a few things people are failing to look at....

Floyds resume since 2003,,,,,Tell me a fighter in their prime, show me one dangerous opponent, show me one fighter not on thier way out....Hell in the Hatton fight people seem to forget Hatton looked like shit against every WW he ever faced....Floyd knew Hatton was hand picked for his style...

Where are Floyds PPV drawing powers?...

PBF/DLH....DLH could sell a million PPV buys tripping old ladies donw the stairs FACT...Oscar was the draw for that fight..

PBF/Hatton....Hatton wass the draw for that fight......

PBF/Marquez....People wanted to see what kind of shape PBF was in for the (what everyone assumed was going to be a showdown with Pacquiao)....Real reason it sold so well....

Floyd would not fight Mosley because he is not a PPV draw? (Floyds own words)...Well if Floyd is such a big PPV draw it should not matter who he faces.,.....

Now we want to keep looking for smaller opponents to fill the void? A feather duster in Malignaggi?.....

I am not a Floyd Fan nor a Pacquiao fan but to keep using the Pacquiao fight as a reason to say that PBF is not a pain in the ass and deny has really done little to add to boxings appeal is foolish......

Please name what Floyd has done to make boxing more exciting? Fought Baldomir?, Gatti? Washed up DLH?, A smaller Marquez who struggkled with a one dimensional Diaz?....This is the actions of a great fighter?.......

Make your money all you want but dont act as though these are great achievements.....

Floyd can tell everyone it is raining all he wants but he forgets we can all see him pissing off the balcony

Pac/DLH- DLH was still the draw, yet it sold a hell of a lot less than Mayweather/DLH hmmm

Pac/Hatton- both guys had about even amount of pull in this, and yet it still did less than Mayweather/Hatton, hmmmmmmmm

only reason Cotto/Pacquiao did slightly better than Mayweather/Marquez is because obviously it was more of an even matchup and they are both come forward fighters, there is no doubt in my mind Mayweather/Mosley will outsell Pacquiao/Clottey, and its due to the fact that it's 2 of the biggest names in boxing against each other, while Pacquiao/Clottey is not

For Manny/DLH people expecte3d a slaughter due to obvious reasons so why pay money for a one sided fight they could see on HBO for free 2 weeks later.....Turned out people were right just not in the direction expected.....

Hatton had given shit performances with the exception of Malignaggi and even his own UK fan base dropped according to live gates outside the UK.......

[ElTerribleMorales]

Instead of the Pactard name calling you should take the post for its context....The Pacquiao fight was not mentioned it was just Floyds constant demands period.....

Here are a few things people are failing to look at....

Floyds resume since 2003,,,,,Tell me a fighter in their prime, show me one dangerous opponent, show me one fighter not on thier way out....Hell in the Hatton fight people seem to forget Hatton looked like shit against every WW he ever faced....Floyd knew Hatton was hand picked for his style...

Where are Floyds PPV drawing powers?...

PBF/DLH....DLH could sell a million PPV buys tripping old ladies donw the stairs FACT...Oscar was the draw for that fight..

PBF/Hatton....Hatton wass the draw for that fight......

PBF/Marquez....People wanted to see what kind of shape PBF was in for the (what everyone assumed was going to be a showdown with Pacquiao)....Real reason it sold so well....

Floyd would not fight Mosley because he is not a PPV draw? (Floyds own words)...Well if Floyd is such a big PPV draw it should not matter who he faces.,.....

Now we want to keep looking for smaller opponents to fill the void? A feather duster in Malignaggi?.....

I am not a Floyd Fan nor a Pacquiao fan but to keep using the Pacquiao fight as a reason to say that PBF is not a pain in the ass and deny has really done little to add to boxings appeal is foolish......

Please name what Floyd has done to make boxing more exciting? Fought Baldomir?, Gatti? Washed up DLH?, A smaller Marquez who struggkled with a one dimensional Diaz?....This is the actions of a great fighter?.......

Make your money all you want but dont act as though these are great achievements.....

Floyd can tell everyone it is raining all he wants but he forgets we can all see him pissing off the balcony

Pac/DLH- DLH was still the draw, yet it sold a hell of a lot less than Mayweather/DLH hmmm

Pac/Hatton- both guys had about even amount of pull in this, and yet it still did less than Mayweather/Hatton, hmmmmmmmm

only reason Cotto/Pacquiao did slightly better than Mayweather/Marquez is because obviously it was more of an even matchup and they are both come forward fighters, there is no doubt in my mind Mayweather/Mosley will outsell Pacquiao/Clottey, and its due to the fact that it's 2 of the biggest names in boxing against each other, while Pacquiao/Clottey is not

For Manny/DLH people expecte3d a slaughter due to obvious reasons so why pay money for a one sided fight they could see on HBO for free 2 weeks later.....Turned out people were right just not in the direction expected.....

Hatton had given shit performances with the exception of Malignaggi and even his own UK fan base dropped according to live gates outside the UK.......

Mayweather/Marquez was expected to be a one sided fight as it was and still did well, what's the excuse for Pacquiao/Diaz?

[Kirkland Laing]

Instead of the Pactard name calling you should take the post for its context....The Pacquiao fight was not mentioned it was just Floyds constant demands period.....

Here are a few things people are failing to look at....

Floyds resume since 2003,,,,,Tell me a fighter in their prime, show me one dangerous opponent, show me one fighter not on thier way out....Hell in the Hatton fight people seem to forget Hatton looked like shit against every WW he ever faced....Floyd knew Hatton was hand picked for his style...

Where are Floyds PPV drawing powers?...

PBF/DLH....DLH could sell a million PPV buys tripping old ladies donw the stairs FACT...Oscar was the draw for that fight..

PBF/Hatton....Hatton wass the draw for that fight......

PBF/Marquez....People wanted to see what kind of shape PBF was in for the (what everyone assumed was going to be a showdown with Pacquiao)....Real reason it sold so well....

Floyd would not fight Mosley because he is not a PPV draw? (Floyds own words)...Well if Floyd is such a big PPV draw it should not matter who he faces.,.....

Now we want to keep looking for smaller opponents to fill the void? A feather duster in Malignaggi?.....

I am not a Floyd Fan nor a Pacquiao fan but to keep using the Pacquiao fight as a reason to say that PBF is not a pain in the ass and deny has really done little to add to boxings appeal is foolish......

Please name what Floyd has done to make boxing more exciting? Fought Baldomir?, Gatti? Washed up DLH?, A smaller Marquez who struggkled with a one dimensional Diaz?....This is the actions of a great fighter?.......

Make your money all you want but dont act as though these are great achievements.....

Floyd can tell everyone it is raining all he wants but he forgets we can all see him pissing off the balcony

Pac/DLH- DLH was still the draw, yet it sold a hell of a lot less than Mayweather/DLH hmmm

Pac/Hatton- both guys had about even amount of pull in this, and yet it still did less than Mayweather/Hatton, hmmmmmmmm

only reason Cotto/Pacquiao did slightly better than Mayweather/Marquez is because obviously it was more of an even matchup and they are both come forward fighters, there is no doubt in my mind Mayweather/Mosley will outsell Pacquiao/Clottey, and its due to the fact that it's 2 of the biggest names in boxing against each other, while Pacquiao/Clottey is not

For Manny/DLH people expecte3d a slaughter due to obvious reasons so why pay money for a one sided fight they could see on HBO for free 2 weeks later.....Turned out people were right just not in the direction expected.....

Hatton had given shit performances with the exception of Malignaggi and even his own UK fan base dropped according to live gates outside the UK.......

Manny's fights with JMM did 190 000 and 350 000 in a booming economy. Floyd JMM did a million in a recession with a guy who was smaller than him and that Manny had two decisions over.

[UKPH]

Pac/DLH- DLH was still the draw, yet it sold a hell of a lot less than Mayweather/DLH hmmm

Pac/Hatton- both guys had about even amount of pull in this, and yet it still did less than Mayweather/Hatton, hmmmmmmmm

only reason Cotto/Pacquiao did slightly better than Mayweather/Marquez is because obviously it was more of an even matchup and they are both come forward fighters, there is no doubt in my mind Mayweather/Mosley will outsell Pacquiao/Clottey, and its due to the fact that it's 2 of the biggest names in boxing against each other, while Pacquiao/Clottey is not

For Manny/DLH people expecte3d a slaughter due to obvious reasons so why pay money for a one sided fight they could see on HBO for free 2 weeks later.....Turned out people were right just not in the direction expected.....

Hatton had given shit performances with the exception of Malignaggi and even his own UK fan base dropped according to live gates outside the UK.......

Manny's fights with JMM did 190 000 and 350 000 in a booming economy. Floyd JMM did a million in a recession with a guy who was smaller than him and that Manny had two decisions over.

Can you name a fighters that did make a million in Feathers/SuperFeather weight division?

[Kirkland Laing]

For Manny/DLH people expecte3d a slaughter due to obvious reasons so why pay money for a one sided fight they could see on HBO for free 2 weeks later.....Turned out people were right just not in the direction expected.....

Hatton had given shit performances with the exception of Malignaggi and even his own UK fan base dropped according to live gates outside the UK.......

Manny's fights with JMM did 190 000 and 350 000 in a booming economy. Floyd JMM did a million in a recession with a guy who was smaller than him and that Manny had two decisions over.

Can you name a fighters that did make a million in Feathers/SuperFeather weight division?

The fighters are the attraction, not the weight division. If Floyd had fought Cotto instead of Manny last November he'd have done a lot more buys than the fight got.

[THE THIRD MAN]

Mayweather can go and F*** himself!

Once again, Pacquiao comes out smelling of roses.

And so he should. He has KO'd DLH, Hatton and Cotto in his last 3 fights, what has Mayweather done these past 18 months? Pac is the man at the moment and Mayweather and his fans find that hard to swallow. Mayweather is simply chicken as he realises that Pac is his biggest threat yet.

[DaxxKahn]

Pac/DLH- DLH was still the draw, yet it sold a hell of a lot less than Mayweather/DLH hmmm

Pac/Hatton- both guys had about even amount of pull in this, and yet it still did less than Mayweather/Hatton, hmmmmmmmm

only reason Cotto/Pacquiao did slightly better than Mayweather/Marquez is because obviously it was more of an even matchup and they are both come forward fighters, there is no doubt in my mind Mayweather/Mosley will outsell Pacquiao/Clottey, and its due to the fact that it's 2 of the biggest names in boxing against each other, while Pacquiao/Clottey is not

For Manny/DLH people expecte3d a slaughter due to obvious reasons so why pay money for a one sided fight they could see on HBO for free 2 weeks later.....Turned out people were right just not in the direction expected.....

Hatton had given shit performances with the exception of Malignaggi and even his own UK fan base dropped according to live gates outside the UK.......

Mayweather/Marquez was expected to be a one sided fight as it was and still did well, what's the excuse for Pacquiao/Diaz?

WTF does Pacquiao Diaz have anything to do with it?

As far as Floyd/Jmm fans were are () expecting to see Pac/PBF...The curiosity was there to see how well Floyd had held up during his absence...It was to see how he handled JMM to see how a PBF/PAC fight might go..

The same reason Floyd picked JMM as an opponent....Other then that JMM had zero logic in being an opponent for Floyd