Mike Tyson v Sonny Liston

[Fenster]

Agreed, Fenster.

And while he never beat any elite guys during his prime some of those wins are better than people give Mike credit for. Larry Holmes was old, etc., etc., but yet he was able to beat Mercer four years later. And went the distance with Holyfield. And I'm not sure what that whole "glove caught in the ropes" excuse was all about, if anything Larry probably saw the writing on the wall and was looking for a way out.

You mean he purposely got his glove caught in the ropes? Hmm.. it does sort of make sense.

Quality of opposition is totally overrated. I agree. Fact.

[OumaFan]

I think its the most likely explanation. Sometimes its easy to over think things and miss what's right in front of you, Occam's Razor and such.

As far as Tyson-Holyfield, it just wasn't a prime Tyson, maybe Holyfield was a bad style matchup but we'll never know