Edwin Valero...BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!!!

[BoxingGorilla]

I'm not a fan. I do think he has an a pretty wife, although she looks like a 16 year old.

[Rantcatrat]

Valero is a beast. Who's next? Wouldn't a Robert Guerrero fight be a fun one to watch? Or one with Nate Campbell?

[littlebif]

Only seen afew fights of his.Seen highlights of Demaco fight didnt relize he had good hand speed and seems to throw punches from different angles.

Bob arum in intrested in matching Tim Bradley against Valero Timothy Bradley-Edwin Valero, Arum Eyes The Fight - Boxing News

[p4pking]

Yea don't know where the hell I've been on this guy, have only actually seen snips of him until this fight. Had the wrong impression to say the least, he is very skilled and much more lucid than I seemed to remember him being, extremely impressive performance. That cut was the type that has fights called off very quickly and he just kept working as if nothing had happened, extremely cereberal fighter, great stuff.

[Wacko3205]

Only seen afew fights of his.Seen highlights of Demaco fight didnt relize he had good hand speed and seems to throw punches from different angles.

Bob arum in intrested in matching Tim Bradley against Valero Timothy Bradley-Edwin Valero, Arum Eyes The Fight - Boxing News

Now here's a good point that needs to be touched on...many people (myself included) had'nt taken notice of his hand speed...but...the thing is...it was'nt there to yet be noticed.

He's fast...always has been...but he has never been that accurate nor has he been as flashy as he was against DeMarco.

Another thing...the focus was there against DeMarco...that was'nt there either. Watch the Mosquero fight...that's only a few fights ago & the difference is staggering.

Like I said...not a fan...don't dig Valero's style...but it is changing...& I have taken notice...that's all I'm saying. He's still got miles of proving ground to travel & some tuff customers all around his class.

I want to see him in against JMM...or even the returning Erik Morales...who I have concerns about...but that's boxing...so we shall see.

[CFH]

As a fan of Morales (or what he used to be), I would hate to see him offered up as a sacrificial opponent to Valero. He's well past his peak and who knows what he has left.

Marquez would be an interesting fight, he's a great fighter but he doesn't have the most solid chin these days and I really think Valero would have a good chance of stopping him. It would be a great, intriguing fight though.

[ICB]

I haven't been on that much, but its nice to see you back Wacko. Your one of the few people here that make me want to post on here more. As for Edwin Valero i have to say i was very impressed.

His handspeed was superb, his combinations were superb. And he even showed some good movement at times aswell. I agree he needs to improve his defense, but i think he did show he can avoid punches quite well. But personally i would like him just to tighten up his guard.

Im in the same boat as you Wacko, i've never really been high on Edwin Valero. He reminds me of a very raw Manny Pacquiao although not being as good. And your right he shows more skill in sparring than he does when he fights, the Erik Morales sparring session comes to mind.

But i have to say he looked the real deal vs Antonio DeMarco. And he showed some of the skills he has in sparring. Im not ready yet to jump on the Edwin Valero bandwagon. But if he can show me the same skill he did against Antonio DeMarco. And build on that then im for certain jumping on it, he could be the new Manny Pacquiao.

He fights with the same raw intensity as Manny Pacquiao, and lets be honest here who is gonna be disappointed. About seeing a possibly new Manny Pacquiao ?

[miron_lang]

Valero is a beast. Who's next? Wouldn't a Robert Guerrero fight be a fun one to watch? Or one with Nate Campbell?

Humberto Sotto.


ARUM should make that happen

[Hulk]

I'm not a fan. I do think he has an a pretty wife, although she looks like a 16 year old.

I dunno bout 16, she looks to be in her early 20's.

And she is a cutie for sure.

Very pretty.

[Rantcatrat]

When was the last time a boxer was so nationalistic?

I mean the guy has the president (ehh dictator) tattooed on his chest. It's one thing to have "Brixton" or "Westside" on your back but having the president of the country in a flag on your chest? It's a little frightening in a bad way.

[Kirkland Laing]

When was the last time a boxer was so nationalistic?

I mean the guy has the president (ehh dictator) tattooed on his chest. It's one thing to have "Brixton" or "Westside" on your back but having the president of the country in a flag on your chest? It's a little frightening in a bad way.

Chavez is a mytical figure for a lot of Venezuelans. The country used to be owned by half a dozen families, it was a kleptocracy. Now the people get some of the oil money, electricity, healthcare, education etc. Chavez is democratically elected too.

Back to boxing, I can see Erik Morales fighting Valero or Khan at some point. Probably depends who gets to him first, can't see him continuing after he gets beat the first time. Gary Shaw says he'd even go to Mexico to make Bradley-Valero, that's how confident he is. It'd be a hell of a fight and Arum seems to want it too.

[Spicoli]

Completely missed this fight and regret it...I was wrong on all accounts.Sounds as if Valero had some versatility? and showed a nice mix in with young DeMarco.Much congrats on huge win.I still have hope for DeMarco,has some nice skills and is very much developing.Need to see this one.

[Rantcatrat]

When was the last time a boxer was so nationalistic?

I mean the guy has the president (ehh dictator) tattooed on his chest. It's one thing to have "Brixton" or "Westside" on your back but having the president of the country in a flag on your chest? It's a little frightening in a bad way.

Chavez is a mytical figure for a lot of Venezuelans. The country used to be owned by half a dozen families, it was a kleptocracy. Now the people get some of the oil money, electricity, healthcare, education etc. Chavez is democratically elected too.

Back to boxing, I can see Erik Morales fighting Valero or Khan at some point. Probably depends who gets to him first, can't see him continuing after he gets beat the first time. Gary Shaw says he'd even go to Mexico to make Bradley-Valero, that's how confident he is. It'd be a hell of a fight and Arum seems to want it too.

That's all fine and dandy. I wasn't trying to debate the merit of Chavez (that's a whole different conversation, clearly). However, can we can agree that it is one nationalistic tattoo? Are there any other fighters who have a tattoo as nationalistic?

[Kirkland Laing]

When was the last time a boxer was so nationalistic?

I mean the guy has the president (ehh dictator) tattooed on his chest. It's one thing to have "Brixton" or "Westside" on your back but having the president of the country in a flag on your chest? It's a little frightening in a bad way.

Chavez is a mytical figure for a lot of Venezuelans. The country used to be owned by half a dozen families, it was a kleptocracy. Now the people get some of the oil money, electricity, healthcare, education etc. Chavez is democratically elected too.

Back to boxing, I can see Erik Morales fighting Valero or Khan at some point. Probably depends who gets to him first, can't see him continuing after he gets beat the first time. Gary Shaw says he'd even go to Mexico to make Bradley-Valero, that's how confident he is. It'd be a hell of a fight and Arum seems to want it too.

That's all fine and dandy. I wasn't trying to debate the merit of Chavez (that's a whole different conversation, clearly). However, can we can agree that it is one nationalistic tattoo? Are there any other fighters who have a tattoo as nationalistic?

Yep, no two ways about it, you get a giant flag on your chest with the president's mug on it and you've got a nationalistic tat.

[Rantcatrat]

Chavez is a mytical figure for a lot of Venezuelans. The country used to be owned by half a dozen families, it was a kleptocracy. Now the people get some of the oil money, electricity, healthcare, education etc. Chavez is democratically elected too.

Back to boxing, I can see Erik Morales fighting Valero or Khan at some point. Probably depends who gets to him first, can't see him continuing after he gets beat the first time. Gary Shaw says he'd even go to Mexico to make Bradley-Valero, that's how confident he is. It'd be a hell of a fight and Arum seems to want it too.

That's all fine and dandy. I wasn't trying to debate the merit of Chavez (that's a whole different conversation, clearly). However, can we can agree that it is one nationalistic tattoo? Are there any other fighters who have a tattoo as nationalistic?

Yep, no two ways about it, you get a giant flag on your chest with the president's mug on it and you've got a nationalistic tat.

I sense sarcasm. Maybe tattooing a picture of the president of your country on your chest is not showing national pride.

Nevertheless, I'll change my tone because from your reaction it appears that I've touched a nerve, which wasn't my intention. I was genuinely curious if there were any other fighters that have the president of their country tattooed on their chest?