"Slick" Fighters?

[Mattyhitman]

Yeah Floyd and Guzman (although he wasn't so slick the last fight) are fighters I would consider the epitome of slick.

What about the guys I listed?

Is Hopkins slick?

Same really as Jimmy mentioned, as for Hopkins, personally no. He is awkward, but not slick, he leaves himself in the pocket for his opponent to miss then counter with a headbutt or shoulder butt for example, maybe the odd punch, but imo he is plain dirty rather than slick.

I would place Lennox lewis in that mould of slick, rarely did he look troubled and most things he done looked effortless. Slick is getting in to range/ the pocket get ya shots off then get out without taking damage, Lewis opitomised this for me above all else, bar Mayweather.

[Pugilistic]

Yeah Floyd and Guzman (although he wasn't so slick the last fight) are fighters I would consider the epitome of slick.

What about the guys I listed?

Is Hopkins slick?

Same really as Jimmy mentioned, as for Hopkins, personally no. He is awkward, but not slick, he leaves himself in the pocket for his opponent to miss then counter with a headbutt or shoulder butt for example, maybe the odd punch, but imo he is plain dirty rather than slick.

I would place Lennox lewis in that mould of slick, rarely did he look troubled and most things he done looked effortless. Slick is getting in to range/ the pocket get ya shots off then get out without taking damage, Lewis opitomised this for me above all else, bar Mayweather.

Define your meaning of awkward because i personally feel "awkward" fighters are like Ricardo Mayorga, Emmanuel Augustus,etc.

Hopkins is not "awkward"

The check list for being a slick fighter imo is:

Good footwork/movement
Elusive/defensively sound
good counter puncher

Hopkins gets a tick in all those catergories.

Hopkins is dirty, but no where near as bad as you make out. The guy has a excellent right hand and his left hook is sneaky and accurate also. He score points with those, Not headbutts and shoulders.

[Mattyhitman]

Yeah Floyd and Guzman (although he wasn't so slick the last fight) are fighters I would consider the epitome of slick.

What about the guys I listed?

Is Hopkins slick?

Same really as Jimmy mentioned, as for Hopkins, personally no. He is awkward, but not slick, he leaves himself in the pocket for his opponent to miss then counter with a headbutt or shoulder butt for example, maybe the odd punch, but imo he is plain dirty rather than slick.

I would place Lennox lewis in that mould of slick, rarely did he look troubled and most things he done looked effortless. Slick is getting in to range/ the pocket get ya shots off then get out without taking damage, Lewis opitomised this for me above all else, bar Mayweather.

Define your meaning of awkward because i personally feel "awkward" fighters are like Ricardo Mayorga, Emmanuel Augustus,etc.

Hopkins is not "awkward"

The check list for being a slick fighter imo is:

Good footwork/movement
Elusive/defensively sound
good counter puncher

Hopkins gets a tick in all those catergories.

Hopkins is dirty, but no where near as bad as you make out. The guy has a excellent right hand and his left hook is sneaky and accurate also. He score points with those, Not headbutts and shoulders.

I was wondering when ya would pick up my Hopkins bashing, evaluation - My definition of awkward in relation to Hopkins ; hard to deal with, difficult to handle or manage, causing inconvenience. This for me is not slick. Listen mate he should have been DQ'ed against Calzaghe for the consistant fouling he done, he is a dirty boxer and he takes it to the limit and beyond. It makes me laugh when Hatton gets slated for wrestling and holding, when Hopkins is the opitomy of this.

I appreciate he is YOUR hero and fave boxer, but hey thats my take on him and my opinion on his style

[generalbulldog]

As someone brought it up, I can't remember when was the last time I saw a slick non-black boxer. It's pretty much like an white NFL running back, I don't think I've ever seen one in modern times.

[ICB]

As someone brought it up, I can't remember when was the last time I saw a slick non-black boxer. It's pretty much like an white NFL running back, I don't think I've ever seen one in modern times.

Currently i'll say Kevin Mitchell is pretty slick, although he hasn't always shown it. But he made Breidis Prescott basically miss every big shot for 12 rounds, just using his upper body movement.

[OumaFan]

I just think of it as good skills with an emphasis on defensive skills. So yeah Hopkins is an obvious one, Floyd, etc. But its one of those terms that means different things to different people I guess.

[johnmaff36]

As someone brought it up, I can't remember when was the last time I saw a slick non-black boxer. It's pretty much like an white NFL running back, I don't think I've ever seen one in modern times.

before yiz all laugh, i understand this guy isnt on the level of the guys mentioned here but i would say damaen kelly was pretty slick for a lower weights white guy

[Pugilistic]

Same really as Jimmy mentioned, as for Hopkins, personally no. He is awkward, but not slick, he leaves himself in the pocket for his opponent to miss then counter with a headbutt or shoulder butt for example, maybe the odd punch, but imo he is plain dirty rather than slick.

I would place Lennox lewis in that mould of slick, rarely did he look troubled and most things he done looked effortless. Slick is getting in to range/ the pocket get ya shots off then get out without taking damage, Lewis opitomised this for me above all else, bar Mayweather.

Define your meaning of awkward because i personally feel "awkward" fighters are like Ricardo Mayorga, Emmanuel Augustus,etc.

Hopkins is not "awkward"

The check list for being a slick fighter imo is:

Good footwork/movement
Elusive/defensively sound
good counter puncher

Hopkins gets a tick in all those catergories.

Hopkins is dirty, but no where near as bad as you make out. The guy has a excellent right hand and his left hook is sneaky and accurate also. He score points with those, Not headbutts and shoulders.

I was wondering when ya would pick up my Hopkins bashing, evaluation - My definition of awkward in relation to Hopkins ; hard to deal with, difficult to handle or manage, causing inconvenience. This for me is not slick. Listen mate he should have been DQ'ed against Calzaghe for the consistant fouling he done, he is a dirty boxer and he takes it to the limit and beyond. It makes me laugh when Hatton gets slated for wrestling and holding, when Hopkins is the opitomy of this.

I appreciate he is YOUR hero and fave boxer, but hey thats my take on him and my opinion on his style

I now see what you mean by Hopkins being awkward. I think Mayweather and other slick fighters belongs in a similar catergory also because they have a similar effect on his opponents. I personally feel all slick fighters have a awkwardness about them because they tend to move well and are tough to hit which is frustrating for alot of boxers.

I disagree on the Calzaghe fight. Hopkins has been alot more dirty than that in his career (Look at his second fight with Elchols) and to be fair, Calzaghe did his fair share of rabbit punches and low blows on the inside. Hopkins wasn't all to blame when it came to fighting dirty in that fight.

As far as Hopkins and Hatton are concerned, Hopkins has a excuse for hitting and holding. He is old, really old in boxing years. Holding was never part of Hopkins game in his younger days and his prime.

Hatton doesn't have that excuse.

[sumkalambay]

Hopkins is definitely slick. the prime Hopkins that is.

Sergio Martinez defitely is not slick. he's there to be hit.

top 3 slicksters of the decade:

1) Floyd
2) Hopkins
3) Mijares