Edwin Valero...BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!!!

[Kirkland Laing]

When was the last time a boxer was so nationalistic?

I mean the guy has the president (ehh dictator) tattooed on his chest. It's one thing to have "Brixton" or "Westside" on your back but having the president of the country in a flag on your chest? It's a little frightening in a bad way.

Chavez is a mytical figure for a lot of Venezuelans. The country used to be owned by half a dozen families, it was a kleptocracy. Now the people get some of the oil money, electricity, healthcare, education etc. Chavez is democratically elected too.

Back to boxing, I can see Erik Morales fighting Valero or Khan at some point. Probably depends who gets to him first, can't see him continuing after he gets beat the first time. Gary Shaw says he'd even go to Mexico to make Bradley-Valero, that's how confident he is. It'd be a hell of a fight and Arum seems to want it too.

That's all fine and dandy. I wasn't trying to debate the merit of Chavez (that's a whole different conversation, clearly). However, can we can agree that it is one nationalistic tattoo? Are there any other fighters who have a tattoo as nationalistic?

Yep, no two ways about it, you get a giant flag on your chest with the president's mug on it and you've got a nationalistic tat.

[Rantcatrat]

Chavez is a mytical figure for a lot of Venezuelans. The country used to be owned by half a dozen families, it was a kleptocracy. Now the people get some of the oil money, electricity, healthcare, education etc. Chavez is democratically elected too.

Back to boxing, I can see Erik Morales fighting Valero or Khan at some point. Probably depends who gets to him first, can't see him continuing after he gets beat the first time. Gary Shaw says he'd even go to Mexico to make Bradley-Valero, that's how confident he is. It'd be a hell of a fight and Arum seems to want it too.

That's all fine and dandy. I wasn't trying to debate the merit of Chavez (that's a whole different conversation, clearly). However, can we can agree that it is one nationalistic tattoo? Are there any other fighters who have a tattoo as nationalistic?

Yep, no two ways about it, you get a giant flag on your chest with the president's mug on it and you've got a nationalistic tat.

I sense sarcasm. Maybe tattooing a picture of the president of your country on your chest is not showing national pride.

Nevertheless, I'll change my tone because from your reaction it appears that I've touched a nerve, which wasn't my intention. I was genuinely curious if there were any other fighters that have the president of their country tattooed on their chest?

[Kirkland Laing]

That's all fine and dandy. I wasn't trying to debate the merit of Chavez (that's a whole different conversation, clearly). However, can we can agree that it is one nationalistic tattoo? Are there any other fighters who have a tattoo as nationalistic?

Yep, no two ways about it, you get a giant flag on your chest with the president's mug on it and you've got a nationalistic tat.

I sense sarcasm. Maybe tattooing a picture of the president of your country on your chest is not showing national pride.

Nevertheless, I'll change my tone because from your reaction it appears that I've touched a nerve, which wasn't my intention. I was genuinely curious if there were any other fighters that have the president of their country tattooed on their chest?

No, no sarcasm honestly, I'm agreeing with you.