Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date

[Beanflicker]

They should talk about this crap after their fights, because the way I see it both have a chance of being beat (albiet a small one IMO)

[InTheNeutralCorner]

If this is true, then it's like saying that there in never going to be a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight at all (of course, provided that they beat their respective opponents). I agree that neither of them deserves more than a 50/50 split. With regards as to who gives in to the blood test cut-off date will depend on the success of their respective matches.

It is obvious to me that Mayweather-Mosley will definitely outsell the Pacquiao-Clottey fight. But if the later even gets half the PPV buys of the former, then I'll still consider that a success. Quite a number of advantages are stacked up in favor of Floyd & Shane. They are both well known American boxers fighting on American soil whereas Pac is primarily the one who will carry his bout with Clottey.

And yes, they should not even be talking about a Pac-Mayweather bout until they're done with their respective fights.

[piye]

To be honest Mayweather is a bigger PPV draw and he only agreed to 50/ 50 as pacs last PPV against a largely successful ppv opponent did well.

[skel1983]

To be honest Mayweather is a bigger PPV draw and he only agreed to 50/ 50 as pacs last PPV against a largely successful ppv opponent did well.

Have to disagree there mate, Pac deserves at least 50/50 here's a look at there PPV numbers before and after there fights with Dela Hoya

Mayweather's Highest PPV before De la Hoya:

Zab Judah - 374,000
Arturo Gatti - 365,000
Carlos Baldomir - 325,000

TOTAL : 1,064,000


Pacquiao's Highest PPV Fights before De la Hoya:

Juan Manuel Marquez Rematch - 400,000
Erik Morales 3rd Match - 360,000
Marco Antonio Barrera Rematch - 350,000

TOTAL: 1,110,000


Mayweather Fights after De la Hoya

Juan Manuel Marquez - 1,050,000
Ricky Hatton - 925,000

TOTAL: 1,975,000

Pacquiao Fights after De la Hoya

Miguel Cotto - 1,250,000
Ricky Hatton - 850,000

TOTAL: 2,100,000


The Mosley fight will probably do a couple of hundred thousand more but the same argument for comparing Pac/Cotto - Mayweather/JMM, could be used with the two fights coming up, with Mayweather having the less attractive ppv then and now Pac having the same situation.

But on the other hand you can look at these numbers below and say Floyd deserves more:

Marquez-Pacquiao 400k
Marquez-Mayweather 1.1Mill

Hatton-Pacquiao 850k
Hatton-Mayweather 950k

De La Hoya-Pacquiao 1.6Mill
De La Hoya-Mayweather 2.4Mill


But the timing of these fights had a big bearing, and the situation for instance Dela Hoya v Mayweather was seen as alot closer fight on paper than Pac Dela Hoya, everyone thought Pac would get blown away. Hard to say but looking at all figures 50/50 is fair imo.

[ElTerribleMorales]

To be honest Mayweather is a bigger PPV draw and he only agreed to 50/ 50 as pacs last PPV against a largely successful ppv opponent did well.

Have to disagree there mate, Pac deserves at least 50/50 here's a look at there PPV numbers before and after there fights with Dela Hoya

Mayweather's Highest PPV before De la Hoya:

Zab Judah - 374,000
Arturo Gatti - 365,000
Carlos Baldomir - 325,000

TOTAL : 1,064,000


Pacquiao's Highest PPV Fights before De la Hoya:

Juan Manuel Marquez Rematch - 400,000
Erik Morales 3rd Match - 360,000
Marco Antonio Barrera Rematch - 350,000

TOTAL: 1,110,000


Mayweather Fights after De la Hoya

Juan Manuel Marquez - 1,050,000
Ricky Hatton - 925,000

TOTAL: 1,975,000

Pacquiao Fights after De la Hoya

Miguel Cotto - 1,250,000
Ricky Hatton - 850,000

TOTAL: 2,100,000


The Mosley fight will probably do a couple of hundred thousand more but the same argument for comparing Pac/Cotto - Mayweather/JMM, could be used with the two fights coming up, with Mayweather having the less attractive ppv then and now Pac having the same situation.

But on the other hand you can look at these numbers below and say Floyd deserves more:

Marquez-Pacquiao 400k
Marquez-Mayweather 1.1Mill

Hatton-Pacquiao 850k
Hatton-Mayweather 950k

De La Hoya-Pacquiao 1.6Mill
De La Hoya-Mayweather 2.4Mill


But the timing of these fights had a big bearing, and the situation for instance Dela Hoya v Mayweather was seen as alot closer fight on paper than Pac Dela Hoya, everyone thought Pac would get blown away. Hard to say but looking at all figures 50/50 is fair imo.

you can also throw in that Barrera, Morales, and Marquez have a bigger fan base than Judah and Baldomir

[mnmc10]

you can also throw in that Barrera, Morales, and Marquez have a bigger fan base than Judah and Baldomir

also proving that pac had better opposition than pbf.

[eagle]

you can also throw in that Barrera, Morales, and Marquez have a bigger fan base than Judah and Baldomir

also proving that pac had better opposition than pbf.

Haha and lost to one and drew with another. So your now saying drawing power is directly linked to a fighters quality?
The thread is about who is the bigger draw and when u look a common opponents Floyd by far outsells Pac.

[match]

Fact is, when Floyd beats Shane, die hard Pac fans will be the only people on the planet who would still have Floyd p4p #2. Floyd will be the consensus #1 fighter in the world, and we all know Mayweather-Mosley will sell more than Pacquiao-Clottey. When you're the top dog, the odds on favorite to win, AND the bigger draw, you will get, and deserve to get, more money. And people need to stop going back 4 and 5 years looking at their ppv numbers. The bigger draw means who's consistently been drawing more lately. If Freddie Roach and Manny are gonna cry that Mosley is a bigger draw than Clottey that's their own fault, since they had their pick of the litter on who Pacquiao was going to fight before Floyd and could have challenged Shane.

[Youngblood]

Fact is, when Floyd beats Shane, die hard Pac fans will be the only people on the planet who would still have Floyd p4p #2. Floyd will be the consensus #1 fighter in the world, and we all know Mayweather-Mosley will sell more than Pacquiao-Clottey. When you're the top dog, the odds on favorite to win, AND the bigger draw, you will get, and deserve to get, more money. And people need to stop going back 4 and 5 years looking at their ppv numbers. The bigger draw means who's consistently been drawing more lately. If Freddie Roach and Manny are gonna cry that Mosley is a bigger draw than Clottey that's their own fault, since they had their pick of the litter on who Pacquiao was going to fight before Floyd and could have challenged Shane.

anyone want to elaborate on this?

[Dench]

To be honest Mayweather is a bigger PPV draw and he only agreed to 50/ 50 as pacs last PPV against a largely successful ppv opponent did well.

Have to disagree there mate, Pac deserves at least 50/50 here's a look at there PPV numbers before and after there fights with Dela Hoya

Mayweather's Highest PPV before De la Hoya:

Zab Judah - 374,000
Arturo Gatti - 365,000
Carlos Baldomir - 325,000

TOTAL : 1,064,000


Pacquiao's Highest PPV Fights before De la Hoya:

Juan Manuel Marquez Rematch - 400,000
Erik Morales 3rd Match - 360,000
Marco Antonio Barrera Rematch - 350,000

TOTAL: 1,110,000


Mayweather Fights after De la Hoya

Juan Manuel Marquez - 1,050,000
Ricky Hatton - 925,000

TOTAL: 1,975,000

Pacquiao Fights after De la Hoya

Miguel Cotto - 1,250,000
Ricky Hatton - 850,000

TOTAL: 2,100,000


The Mosley fight will probably do a couple of hundred thousand more but the same argument for comparing Pac/Cotto - Mayweather/JMM, could be used with the two fights coming up, with Mayweather having the less attractive ppv then and now Pac having the same situation.

But on the other hand you can look at these numbers below and say Floyd deserves more:

Marquez-Pacquiao 400k
Marquez-Mayweather 1.1Mill

Hatton-Pacquiao 850k
Hatton-Mayweather 950k

De La Hoya-Pacquiao 1.6Mill
De La Hoya-Mayweather 2.4Mill


But the timing of these fights had a big bearing, and the situation for instance Dela Hoya v Mayweather was seen as alot closer fight on paper than Pac Dela Hoya, everyone thought Pac would get blown away. Hard to say but looking at all figures 50/50 is fair imo.

you can also throw in that Barrera, Morales, and Marquez have a bigger fan base than Judah and Baldomir

So as Dela hoya, Hatton and of course Mosley.

Floyd making these demands and rules this early is a testament that he really doesnt want to fight Pacman. Whatever happens on his fight vs Mosley, Floyd will never let that fight against Pacman to materialize.

Im rooting for Mosley to win, but I have a feeling the Floyd will just run and dance away while bitch-slapping mosley, and will get points for those slaps. He's good at it anyway so I must give credit to him.

[Gandalf]

Have to disagree there mate, Pac deserves at least 50/50 here's a look at there PPV numbers before and after there fights with Dela Hoya

Mayweather's Highest PPV before De la Hoya:

Zab Judah - 374,000
Arturo Gatti - 365,000
Carlos Baldomir - 325,000

TOTAL : 1,064,000


Pacquiao's Highest PPV Fights before De la Hoya:

Juan Manuel Marquez Rematch - 400,000
Erik Morales 3rd Match - 360,000
Marco Antonio Barrera Rematch - 350,000

TOTAL: 1,110,000


Mayweather Fights after De la Hoya

Juan Manuel Marquez - 1,050,000
Ricky Hatton - 925,000

TOTAL: 1,975,000

Pacquiao Fights after De la Hoya

Miguel Cotto - 1,250,000
Ricky Hatton - 850,000

TOTAL: 2,100,000


The Mosley fight will probably do a couple of hundred thousand more but the same argument for comparing Pac/Cotto - Mayweather/JMM, could be used with the two fights coming up, with Mayweather having the less attractive ppv then and now Pac having the same situation.

But on the other hand you can look at these numbers below and say Floyd deserves more:

Marquez-Pacquiao 400k
Marquez-Mayweather 1.1Mill

Hatton-Pacquiao 850k
Hatton-Mayweather 950k

De La Hoya-Pacquiao 1.6Mill
De La Hoya-Mayweather 2.4Mill


But the timing of these fights had a big bearing, and the situation for instance Dela Hoya v Mayweather was seen as alot closer fight on paper than Pac Dela Hoya, everyone thought Pac would get blown away. Hard to say but looking at all figures 50/50 is fair imo.

you can also throw in that Barrera, Morales, and Marquez have a bigger fan base than Judah and Baldomir

So as Dela hoya, Hatton and of course Mosley.

Floyd making these demands and rules this early is a testament that he really doesnt want to fight Pacman. Whatever happens on his fight vs Mosley, Floyd will never let that fight against Pacman to materialize.

Im rooting for Mosley to win, but I have a feeling the Floyd will just run and dance away while bitch-slapping mosley, and will get points for those slaps. He's good at it anyway so I must give credit to him.

You see, this is what I am talking about. Manny has already ducked Floyd. A refusal to allow random drug testing is warning sign enough and that's without getting onto the issue of money. The fight won't happen because Manny already refuses to prove himself a clean athlete. It's that simple.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Have to disagree there mate, Pac deserves at least 50/50 here's a look at there PPV numbers before and after there fights with Dela Hoya

Mayweather's Highest PPV before De la Hoya:

Zab Judah - 374,000
Arturo Gatti - 365,000
Carlos Baldomir - 325,000

TOTAL : 1,064,000


Pacquiao's Highest PPV Fights before De la Hoya:

Juan Manuel Marquez Rematch - 400,000
Erik Morales 3rd Match - 360,000
Marco Antonio Barrera Rematch - 350,000

TOTAL: 1,110,000


Mayweather Fights after De la Hoya

Juan Manuel Marquez - 1,050,000
Ricky Hatton - 925,000

TOTAL: 1,975,000

Pacquiao Fights after De la Hoya

Miguel Cotto - 1,250,000
Ricky Hatton - 850,000

TOTAL: 2,100,000


The Mosley fight will probably do a couple of hundred thousand more but the same argument for comparing Pac/Cotto - Mayweather/JMM, could be used with the two fights coming up, with Mayweather having the less attractive ppv then and now Pac having the same situation.

But on the other hand you can look at these numbers below and say Floyd deserves more:

Marquez-Pacquiao 400k
Marquez-Mayweather 1.1Mill

Hatton-Pacquiao 850k
Hatton-Mayweather 950k

De La Hoya-Pacquiao 1.6Mill
De La Hoya-Mayweather 2.4Mill


But the timing of these fights had a big bearing, and the situation for instance Dela Hoya v Mayweather was seen as alot closer fight on paper than Pac Dela Hoya, everyone thought Pac would get blown away. Hard to say but looking at all figures 50/50 is fair imo.

you can also throw in that Barrera, Morales, and Marquez have a bigger fan base than Judah and Baldomir

So as Dela hoya, Hatton and of course Mosley.

Floyd making these demands and rules this early is a testament that he really doesnt want to fight Pacman. Whatever happens on his fight vs Mosley, Floyd will never let that fight against Pacman to materialize.

Im rooting for Mosley to win, but I have a feeling the Floyd will just run and dance away while bitch-slapping mosley, and will get points for those slaps. He's good at it anyway so I must give credit to him.

ummm, the fight didn't happen cause Pacquiao was too much of a bitch to take a simple blood test, the same type of blood tests Mosley had accepted, nice try though

[CountryBoy]

Floyd will not make it past Mosley.

[Zilla]

To be honest Mayweather is a bigger PPV draw and he only agreed to 50/ 50 as pacs last PPV against a largely successful ppv opponent did well.

Have to disagree there mate, Pac deserves at least 50/50 here's a look at there PPV numbers before and after there fights with Dela Hoya

Mayweather's Highest PPV before De la Hoya:

Zab Judah - 374,000
Arturo Gatti - 365,000
Carlos Baldomir - 325,000

TOTAL : 1,064,000


Pacquiao's Highest PPV Fights before De la Hoya:

Juan Manuel Marquez Rematch - 400,000
Erik Morales 3rd Match - 360,000
Marco Antonio Barrera Rematch - 350,000

TOTAL: 1,110,000


Mayweather Fights after De la Hoya

Juan Manuel Marquez - 1,050,000
Ricky Hatton - 925,000

TOTAL: 1,975,000

Pacquiao Fights after De la Hoya

Miguel Cotto - 1,250,000
Ricky Hatton - 850,000

TOTAL: 2,100,000


The Mosley fight will probably do a couple of hundred thousand more but the same argument for comparing Pac/Cotto - Mayweather/JMM, could be used with the two fights coming up, with Mayweather having the less attractive ppv then and now Pac having the same situation.

But on the other hand you can look at these numbers below and say Floyd deserves more:

Marquez-Pacquiao 400k
Marquez-Mayweather 1.1Mill

Hatton-Pacquiao 850k
Hatton-Mayweather 950k

De La Hoya-Pacquiao 1.6Mill
De La Hoya-Mayweather 2.4Mill


But the timing of these fights had a big bearing, and the situation for instance Dela Hoya v Mayweather was seen as alot closer fight on paper than Pac Dela Hoya, everyone thought Pac would get blown away. Hard to say but looking at all figures 50/50 is fair imo.

I say if anyone deserves more it would be Floyd. I think the statement is just a ploy to get Pac to agree to what he walked away from. Floyd is the bigger draw, let's be honest, Marquez is not a PPV draw, Miguel Cotto is. Mayweather had higher numbers against common opponents

[InTheNeutralCorner]

If Pacquiao & Mayweather do win their respective matches, don't we want them to meet and settle once & for all who really is the P4P king? And we know that neither of them would give in to a lesser purse. It should either be a 50/50 or a 55/45, 60/40 with the remaining amount going to the winner. Why should we insist that one fighter gets more? We won't be getting a cut from their share. So what benefit would we get from favoring a higher split for a certain boxer?