Barry Mcguigan thinks Valero should not fight agian..

[ross]

I dont know, something happened 6 months ago here in Guernsey thats a similar type of thing.

A woman with epilepsy had just passed a load of tests to say she was fit to drive, the next day she had a fit and jammed her foot on the throttle and smashed a young bloke on a motor scooter while he was in a queue of traffic, the man died instantly, the woman was fine.

She had epilepsy but passed the relevant tests, Valero has passed tests to fight but it might not be long before he has an injury.

[skel1983]

I dont know, something happened 6 months ago here in Guernsey thats a similar type of thing.

A woman with epilepsy had just passed a load of tests to say she was fit to drive, the next day she had a fit and jammed her foot on the throttle and smashed a young bloke on a motor scooter while he was in a queue of traffic, the man died instantly, the woman was fine.

She had epilepsy but passed the relevant tests, Valero has passed tests to fight but it might not be long before he has an injury.

How the hell is that even similar?? The woman is putting other people at risk not only herself she is accountable for everyone around her when she drives, Valero like VD said is a grown man if he has passed the tests but still knows the risks and he is happy with that imo it's up to him. He has only himself to answer to.

[AdamGB]

At the end of the day it's not up to Barry Mcguigan, I agree - it's not his health.

But it is a valid point - I doubt that the Scooter/Car industry has came under much fire because of that colision, think the point he was making was more about the reliability of such complex tests/conditions.

Can't say I agree with Barry Mcguigan but I do get were he is shooting from... boxing isn't exactly enjoying the popularity it once was (does seem to be growing again mind...) a fatality isn't really what it needs right now... whether it's right or not, or more risky than other sports doesn't matter... reactionary types always jump on it at any chance they can.

I do wonder why, if he is really bothered - does he have to say this publicly? If he was genuinley concerned why not say so privately? This seems like he's wanting to help his image to help his promotions perhaps?

[ross]

How the hell is that even similar??

For fucks sakes

The woman passed the tests required to drive but knew she has eplilepsy, Valero has passed the tests to fight but knows he has a brain injury, something could happen to him as he ups the class of opponent.

[knodaledge]

I dont know, something happened 6 months ago here in Guernsey thats a similar type of thing.

A woman with epilepsy had just passed a load of tests to say she was fit to drive, the next day she had a fit and jammed her foot on the throttle and smashed a young bloke on a motor scooter while he was in a queue of traffic, the man died instantly, the woman was fine.

She had epilepsy but passed the relevant tests, Valero has passed tests to fight but it might not be long before he has an injury.

How the hell is that even similar?? The woman is putting other people at risk not only herself she is accountable for everyone around her when she drives, Valero like VD said is a grown man if he has passed the tests but still knows the risks and he is happy with that imo it's up to him. He has only himself to answer to.

Well yes & no. The physical consequences would only hurt Valero. But could you imagine the psychological consequences his opponent would suffer if he seriously hurts or (God forbid) kills Valero because of this? Everyone wants to win but nobody wants to pay that price.

It is a very complex subject though.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

everyone who throws and takes a punch knows this. No one goes in expecting it to happen and the chances are very slim that it ever will.

[JonnyFolds]

I think the writer is speaking to all boxing fans and doctors/commisioners/licensers et al. None of us have the right to restrict Valeros right to box, but the people in power listen to the public for moral guidance.

I'll be the first to say I would not grant him a boxing licence if it were up to me. No way in hell I am playing God. Look at HolmCall's recent post about upsets, and there's another scenario I wouldn't go for, professionals beating the tar out of guys who've never laced gloves up in Thailand.

Honestly people put yourselves in the shoes of the man granting. Do you think you could do it?

Lastly, of COURSE it would have a huge impact on boxing if Valero died in the ring. The scrutiny would go well past all this PED stuff. I really like watching this guy fight, and at the end of the day it's good that it's up to him. I'm just glad he trains hard, looks good and fights to win.

I dont know, something happened 6 months ago here in Guernsey thats a similar type of thing.

A woman with epilepsy had just passed a load of tests to say she was fit to drive, the next day she had a fit and jammed her foot on the throttle and smashed a young bloke on a motor scooter while he was in a queue of traffic, the man died instantly, the woman was fine.

She had epilepsy but passed the relevant tests, Valero has passed tests to fight but it might not be long before he has an injury.

How the hell is that even similar?? The woman is putting other people at risk not only herself she is accountable for everyone around her when she drives, Valero like VD said is a grown man if he has passed the tests but still knows the risks and he is happy with that imo it's up to him. He has only himself to answer to.

Well yes & no. The physical consequences would only hurt Valero. But could you imagine the psychological consequences his opponent would suffer if he seriously hurts or (God forbid) kills Valero because of this? Everyone wants to win but nobody wants to pay that price.

It is a very complex subject though.

[stebs]

I dont know, something happened 6 months ago here in Guernsey thats a similar type of thing.

A woman with epilepsy had just passed a load of tests to say she was fit to drive, the next day she had a fit and jammed her foot on the throttle and smashed a young bloke on a motor scooter while he was in a queue of traffic, the man died instantly, the woman was fine.

She had epilepsy but passed the relevant tests, Valero has passed tests to fight but it might not be long before he has an injury.

If she was driving a Toyota she has an out and can blame it on the car

[Gandalf]

He shouldn't be fighting. The guy has had a serious accident and that has had an impact upon his life. He can pretend to be a boxer, whilst ignoring his own accident, but that would not be wise. Maybe we should leave him to his own devices, but is that fair if it goes wrong? I don't think so.

[shooter]

I believe Barry had the misfortune to have an opponent die before he was a champ. He has always been in favour of conservative stoppages.

He has experienced something that would see a lot of us think differently