Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date

[generalbulldog]

Who gives a shit if someone likes Manny or not, it's their prerogative to not like any fighter they want.

But I will say something about the fight with Cotto, there was a thread here before the fight that half of the board predicted Cotto would win. After the fight those same people backing Cotto said he was shot from the Margarito beating and weight drained. That was the excuse used.

But I did give Manny his due for that fight and I didn't believe the excuses.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Who gives a shit if someone likes Manny or not, it's their prerogative to not like any fighter they want.

But I will say something about the fight with Cotto, there was a thread here before the fight that half of the board predicted Cotto would win. After the fight those same people backing Cotto said he was shot from the Margarito beating and weight drained. That was the excuse used.

But I did give Manny his due for that fight and I didn't believe the excuses.

look up my posts and in not one did i say that Margarito ruined Cotto, only thing i said was that Cotto's corner didn't help the matter much and that if he ever hopes to bounce back he better get new people around him

[cnote111]

Who gives a shit if someone likes Manny or not, it's their prerogative to not like any fighter they want.

But I will say something about the fight with Cotto, there was a thread here before the fight that half of the board predicted Cotto would win. After the fight those same people backing Cotto said he was shot from the Margarito beating and weight drained. That was the excuse used.

But I did give Manny his due for that fight and I didn't believe the excuses.

look up my posts and in not one did i say that Margarito ruined Cotto, only thing i said was that Cotto's corner didn't help the matter much and that if he ever hopes to bounce back he better get new people around him

I most definitely retract my statements of you not giving PAC credit, but i stand by the fact i think you go out of your way to Hate on him any chance you get...

[fan johnny]

It doesn't matter what either fighter does in pvv unless Floyd is beats Mosley and there is no guarantee that Pacquiao is going to beat Clottey.

[Rantcatrat]

Listen, the two camps are not going to be able to come to agree as much as we all want to see the fight. It's not going to happen.

The best-case scenario for a clear p4p and welterweight champion (and for boxing) to emerge from this mess is if Mosley beats Mayweather and Pacquiao beats Clottey because there are no obstacles to a Mosley-Pacquiao fight and it is a mega event.

On another note, Mayweather-Mosley is a more significant fight than Pacquiao-Clottey. No doubt about it. It would be very surprising if Pacquiao-Clottey outsells Mayweather-Mosley.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Listen, the two camps are not going to be able to come to agree as much as we all want to see the fight. It's not going to happen.

The best-case scenario for a clear p4p and welterweight champion (and for boxing) to emerge from this mess is if Mosley beats Mayweather and Pacquiao beats Clottey because there are no obstacles to a Mosley-Pacquiao fight and it is a mega event.

On another note, Mayweather-Mosley is a more significant fight than Pacquiao-Clottey. No doubt about it. It would be very surprising if Pacquiao-Clottey outsells Mayweather-Mosley.

not really lol Mosley already proposed the fight to Pacquiao and he tucked ass and ran from the fight, i wouldn't be shocked if he went ahead and retired after the Clottey fight

[UKPH]

Listen, the two camps are not going to be able to come to agree as much as we all want to see the fight. It's not going to happen.

The best-case scenario for a clear p4p and welterweight champion (and for boxing) to emerge from this mess is if Mosley beats Mayweather and Pacquiao beats Clottey because there are no obstacles to a Mosley-Pacquiao fight and it is a mega event.

On another note, Mayweather-Mosley is a more significant fight than Pacquiao-Clottey. No doubt about it. It would be very surprising if Pacquiao-Clottey outsells Mayweather-Mosley.

not really lol Mosley already proposed the fight to Pacquiao and he tucked ass and ran from the fight, i wouldn't be shocked if he went ahead and retired after the Clottey fight

This make me laugh, I guess your right maybe Pac should retire after IF he cant deal with Floyd, but remember Cotto boxed and beat Mosley the Pacquiao beat Cotto this you mean that Pacquiao will duck Mosley?

No doubt Floyd and Pac should face each other. This what people wants, no Mosley/Margarito-Pac nor Floyd-whoever. This is really sad if aint gonna happen

[Rantcatrat]

Listen, the two camps are not going to be able to come to agree as much as we all want to see the fight. It's not going to happen.

The best-case scenario for a clear p4p and welterweight champion (and for boxing) to emerge from this mess is if Mosley beats Mayweather and Pacquiao beats Clottey because there are no obstacles to a Mosley-Pacquiao fight and it is a mega event.

On another note, Mayweather-Mosley is a more significant fight than Pacquiao-Clottey. No doubt about it. It would be very surprising if Pacquiao-Clottey outsells Mayweather-Mosley.

not really lol Mosley already proposed the fight to Pacquiao and he tucked ass and ran from the fight, i wouldn't be shocked if he went ahead and retired after the Clottey fight

This make me laugh, I guess your right maybe Pac should retire after IF he cant deal with Floyd, but remember Cotto boxed and beat Mosley the Pacquiao beat Cotto this you mean that Pacquiao will duck Mosley?

No doubt Floyd and Pac should face each other. This what people wants, no Mosley/Margarito-Pac nor Floyd-whoever. This is really sad if aint gonna happen

What I meant is that a Floyd-Pac fight ain't happening. It would be great for boxing but it just ain't happening while a Pacquiao-Mosley fight would definitely happen. Mosley beating Floyd sets up a Mosley-Pacquiao show-down, which would clear up the p4p and welterweight questions.

As an aside, Doug Fischer in his blog at RingTV below said that Floyd negotiated for an immediate rematch with Shane should Shane win. Is there any truth to this?

"Hi Dougie,
Long time reader here. First off, let me say that I sincerely hope I am wrong and you are right about Shane beating Floyd. I'm a big Mosley fan and have been for years. That said, speed kills - and I think people will be surprised at how slow Floyd will make Shane look. My greatest wish is for Shane to grind him down and stop him, but it just ain't happening. When's the last time you saw anyone able to consistently get to Floyd's body? Do you think it's because nobody's thought of that or tried? As much crap as the guy gets (most of it deserved), Money's absolutely brilliant about not getting in positions where he can get touched up to the body - or head for that matter.

Interesting fight for 3-4 rounds until Floyd solves Shane and shuts him out with annoying but scoring counters en route to a wide UD. -- Scott

You are so wrong, Scott. I can’t believe how many fans and members of the media are sleeping on Sugar Shane. It’s sad. It really is.

Dude, Floyd didn’t want this fight. He was forced to take it because it’s the only fight (outside of the Pacquiao showdown) that would guarantee him $15-$20 million-plus and it’s the only bout that fans and the media (including his apologists) would accept in lieu of the Pac-Man fight. Mayweather’s side wanted an immediate rematch clause in the contract. What does that tell you about his confidence going into this bout? "

[UKPH]

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What I meant is that a Floyd-Pac fight ain't happening. It would be great for boxing but it just ain't happening while a Pacquiao-Mosley fight would definitely happen. Mosley beating Floyd sets up a Mosley-Pacquiao show-down, which would clear up the p4p and welterweight questions.

As an aside, Doug Fischer in his blog at RingTV below said that Floyd negotiated for an immediate rematch with Shane should Shane win. Is there any truth to this?

"Hi Dougie,
Long time reader here. First off, let me say that I sincerely hope I am wrong and you are right about Shane beating Floyd. I'm a big Mosley fan and have been for years. That said, speed kills - and I think people will be surprised at how slow Floyd will make Shane look. My greatest wish is for Shane to grind him down and stop him, but it just ain't happening. When's the last time you saw anyone able to consistently get to Floyd's body? Do you think it's because nobody's thought of that or tried? As much crap as the guy gets (most of it deserved), Money's absolutely brilliant about not getting in positions where he can get touched up to the body - or head for that matter.

Interesting fight for 3-4 rounds until Floyd solves Shane and shuts him out with annoying but scoring counters en route to a wide UD. -- Scott

You are so wrong, Scott. I can’t believe how many fans and members of the media are sleeping on Sugar Shane. It’s sad. It really is.

Dude, Floyd didn’t want this fight. He was forced to take it because it’s the only fight (outside of the Pacquiao showdown) that would guarantee him $15-$20 million-plus and it’s the only bout that fans and the media (including his apologists) would accept in lieu of the Pac-Man fight. Mayweather’s side wanted an immediate rematch clause in the contract. What does that tell you about his confidence going into this bout? "
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Agree with you, i was referring the other, well that was i've thinkin also that regarding Floyd.

If Shane wins or Pac wins
As Roach said it will be easier to deal with.

also we cant go wrong the expectation of the fans and media members coz they know Shane is inconsistent he could be good and sometimes goes bad recently his relying too much on his power punch his last few fight as we can see in Mayorga Shane look bad until he stop his opponent in last round, Cotto is able box him and Margarito is slouch no defense at all tailor made for him. If the fight with Shane-Floyd happens 5 or 8 years ago it will be a competitive as is.
I like Shane but a year layoff and fighting a younger defensive as Floyd could tell something.
Tho we cant go bad also in Shane this is boxing it could happen anything.

[Chino]

Mosley accepted the blood test procedures to clear his name out of accusations

Why can't Pac do the same specially after all his silly contradicting excuses for not taking a blood test? That just make him look even more suspicious.

Manny asked 10million fine for each pound that goes beyond 147, yes, but that is simply to force Floyd to make the weight

Floyd is asking for a blood test that he is also willing to take to force Manny to train clean and also come clean on fight night. Both would take the test to make it fair FOR BOTH SIDES.

That was the stand of Pacman's camp on these drug test procedures. They will allow blood test or whatever tests if it will be required by the commission alone

Actually, that was one of the many excuses he said such as being afraid of needles (how did he get his tattoos?), he collapses after giving blood and it is unfair (Mayweather would take the very same tests, is that unfair?), can't be random tests that will totally distract him from training (Mayweather would do the same, so what? It's only a few minutes), saying they won't let Mayweather make the rules (all rules were made by Pac and his team and Mayweather agreed to all of them. Mayweather asks for only one: blood test, and hell breaks loose for Pac?), etc. etc. etc. Aaaaaall these silly contradicting excuses and one of them was that if its not part of the comission then it is a no no. Really raises an eyebrow. Is he hiding something? Mosley totally agreed with this and the fight is on.

Mayweather vs Mosley makes more sense as a competitive fight than Pac vs Clottey which seems more like a stepping stone for Pac.