UFC remains king of PPV hill

[luvfightgame]

The problem with comparing money from boxing and mma is you are using the superstars of the sport.

You take a guy in ufc that's just a contender, nothing special and compare him to a light weight guy that fights on undercards, or friday night fights.

What you'll find is guys is ufc on average do better than average boxers.

The top paid boxers are way above ufc, but it's more like baseball or football being that they belong to a league and the lowest paid guy is better off than the lowest paid boxer. You don't get nearly the same highs and lows as boxing has. Most boxers don't make enough to earn a living. Only the top level and even then lots of them don't hit the million mark.

[blegit]

The problem with comparing money from boxing and mma is you are using the superstars of the sport.

You take a guy in ufc that's just a contender, nothing special and compare him to a light weight guy that fights on undercards, or friday night fights.

What you'll find is guys is ufc on average do better than average boxers.

The top paid boxers are way above ufc, but it's more like baseball or football being that they belong to a league and the lowest paid guy is better off than the lowest paid boxer. You don't get nearly the same highs and lows as boxing has. Most boxers don't make enough to earn a living. Only the top level and even then lots of them don't hit the million mark.

Were talking about PPV though. Basically the top guys and the guys you pay to see. Not FNF. The average PPV payroll for boxing is in the millions. For UFC, the average payroll is hardly even a tenth of a boxing PPV payroll. But even the FNF boxers get what a lot of UFC top fighters get. My friend Marcos Ramirez was a constant ESPN2 fighter and he was getting $20,000 to $50,000 on his televised fights. And the average UFC fighter is not like an average MMA fighter. UFC fighters are picked and signed and they are above average MMA fighters. Many of the UFC fighters get that range or less than that and only a few get more. But I do have some friends in MMA and the bottom level MMA fighters do usually get more than the bottom level boxers.

[generalbulldog]

That's kind of sad that St. Pierre got 60k for 1 of his last fights as someone pointed out and this guy is a top star in his sport. Muhammad Ali an unknown green boxer was getting around that kind of pay 56k before his Liston fight, and this was about almost 50 years ago!

[Jimmy G-Force]

That's kind of sad that St. Pierre got 60k for 1 of his last fights as someone pointed out and this guy is a top star in his sport. Muhammad Ali an unknown green boxer was getting around that kind of pay 56k before his Liston fight, and this was about almost 50 years ago!

Where is the source for this quote ? I'd be very suprised. Also GSP will have earned 4 times that amount with all the other sponsors, bonus's thrown in. There is no way on this earth that GSP earned 60k for one of his recent fights, no chance.

[generalbulldog]

That's kind of sad that St. Pierre got 60k for 1 of his last fights as someone pointed out and this guy is a top star in his sport. Muhammad Ali an unknown green boxer was getting around that kind of pay 56k before his Liston fight, and this was about almost 50 years ago!

Where is the source for this quote ? I'd be very suprised. Also GSP will have earned 4 times that amount with all the other sponsors, bonus's thrown in. There is no way on this earth that GSP earned 60k for one of his recent fights, no chance.

Don't ask me, ask blegit he pointed it out that GSP only got 60k in 1 of his last fights. It's the post before the one I made about Ali's fight purses.

[skel1983]

That's kind of sad that St. Pierre got 60k for 1 of his last fights as someone pointed out and this guy is a top star in his sport. Muhammad Ali an unknown green boxer was getting around that kind of pay 56k before his Liston fight, and this was about almost 50 years ago!

Where is the source for this quote ? I'd be very suprised. Also GSP will have earned 4 times that amount with all the other sponsors, bonus's thrown in. There is no way on this earth that GSP earned 60k for one of his recent fights, no chance.

Don't ask me, ask blegit he pointed it out that GSP only got 60k in 1 of his last fights. It's the post before the one I made about Ali's fight purses.

Ufc 100 GSP got 400k bit different to 60 k lol plus a 200k win bonus so in total 600k.

UFC 100 fighters salaries: Lesnar and St-Pierre get top paydays in $1.8 million payroll | MMAjunkie.com

[TheMacMagician]

Sorry if this is a little blunt, but I'd hazard a guess that UFC isn't "King" of any hill, and this thread should be moved, i'm bored of seeing the thread title up there. UFC, MMA or any other contest of similar ilk won't be taking over boxing anytime soon. I don't think two men spending half the time or even any time grappling each other on the floor appeals to a wide enough audience..... ha

[blegit]

That's kind of sad that St. Pierre got 60k for 1 of his last fights as someone pointed out and this guy is a top star in his sport. Muhammad Ali an unknown green boxer was getting around that kind of pay 56k before his Liston fight, and this was about almost 50 years ago!

Where is the source for this quote ? I'd be very suprised. Also GSP will have earned 4 times that amount with all the other sponsors, bonus's thrown in. There is no way on this earth that GSP earned 60k for one of his recent fights, no chance.

You're right GSP made 70k and 80k in 2 of his last 6 fights. But I did say in my quote that the fighters have to make their bonuses to make a decent payday. So GSP did win those fights and earned double those figures but we are talking about one of the best MMA fighters ever. Frank Mirs' last fight with Brock Lesner in the recordbreaking UFC 100, fighter payroll of 1.8 million, he never made a bonus because he lost and he walked away with 45k. Brock made out good in that event due to great negotiations of a cut of the PPV sales. The UFC 100 made over $5 million in live gate alone. If you factor in bonuses, which aren't guaranteed, then you have to factor in the deductions like trainer fees, gym fees, sparring partner fees, and taxes. And sponsorship, which is not a fixture, is coming from an outside entity not UFC. Here is a link where Heath Herring is complaining about that only a certain few make decent salaries. Heath Herring Attacks UFC Salary Structure - Watch Kalib RunAnd the link also shows that the UFC made over $357 million in 2009 in just PPV revenue not the live gate. Considering that there were 15 UFC PPV events in 2009 and the fighters' payroll averaged about $1 million per event then you are talking about roughly 4% going to the fighters for the 2009 year. In comparison MLB, NFL, NBA, and the NHL all give more than 50% to the athletes. There are a few select UFC fighters who make a decent payday at some events but even those guys aren't getting their fair share. But back to the point. As long as UFC can get away with paying their fighters a total payroll of 4% of just their PPV take then they will remain the PPV king with no competition in sight. Simple business.