Pac having blood taken 20 days before the Clottey fight..

[cnote111]

It was the "Mayweather" aspect that really soured the taste in the PAC Camp. There were a lot of different reasons floating around on why PAC wouldn't take the tests, but i think it really boils down to one.. The Mayweather camp. EGO(Camp) VS EGO(Camp)

MONEY HAS NO BEARING ON THE FIGHTS DRUG TESTING DECISIONS!!!

I'm so sick of hearing, "if it were me and there was 40 million dollars on the table i would sell my soul to get the fight" (exaggerating of course).

If you are already a multi-millionaire and you can get millions using multiple different avenues, does a "big money" fight matter nearly as much to you as it does to an up and coming fighter or a fighter who hasn't had his big break, let alone a poster on a freaking boxing forum. I highly doubt it...

Who gives a sh!t about a 40 Million dollar payday when you don't need the money?!?!

[CFH]

[CFH]

It was the "Mayweather" aspect that really soured the taste in the PAC Camp. There were a lot of different reasons floating around on why PAC wouldn't take the tests, but i think it really boils down to one.. The Mayweather camp. EGO(Camp) VS EGO(Camp)

MONEY HAS NO BEARING ON THE FIGHTS DRUG TESTING DECISIONS!!!

I'm so sick of hearing, "if it were me and there was 40 million dollars on the table i would sell my soul to get the fight" (exaggerating of course).

If you are already a multi-millionaire and you can get millions using multiple different avenues, does a "big money" fight matter nearly as much to you as it does to an up and coming fighter or a fighter who hasn't had his big break, let alone a poster on a freaking boxing forum. I highly doubt it...

Who gives a sh!t about a 40 Million dollar payday when you don't need the money?!?!

I think this is a very good post.

[cnote111]

I still sit quietly and hope the fight does happen though... I would feel like i missed out on something special in my lifetime no matter what the outcome...

Maybe that is the core reason why some people on here are so bitter about these two fighters, whether you blame one or the other is irrelevant. True boxing fans come off feeling a bit short changed... But the flip side to that is a year or two ago no one ever thought these two would've fought in the first place. So i'm trying to hold onto no harm no foul, but its not easy...

[MMASUX]

This really shows that Pac never wanted the fight with Floyd. I hope it will happen, but i highly doubt it.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

CFH is right. Why do people have to keep ressurecting this issue?

A thread is started based on a link that isn't even in the English language and posters come out here disparaging Manny. Do you people even understand what is being said or did you just made the comments based on the title?

They talked about the blood test being REQUIRED of all professional boxers, and about it being obvious that Manny is not comfortable with the test. Manny explained in there why it's hard to have blood test taken near the fight, that he need strength, that if blood is taken it will weaken him and that it will take him 3 - 4 days to recover. He said it's okey to undergo the blood test as long as it's not near the fight date.

[Gandalf]

CFH is right. Why do people have to keep ressurecting this issue?

A thread is started based on a link that isn't even in the English language and posters come out here disparaging Manny. Do you people even understand what is being said or did you just made the comments based on the title?

They talked about the blood test being REQUIRED of all professional boxers, and about it being obvious that Manny is not comfortable with the test. Manny explained in there why it's hard to have blood test taken near the fight, that he need strength, that if blood is taken it will weaken him and that it will take him 3 - 4 days to recover. He said it's okey to undergo the blood test as long as it's not near the fight date.

The "weaken me" excuse is absurd as anyone who has taken a blood test will tell you. A 14 day window was plenty of time before the fight too and Manny turned it down and here he is once again giving blood, but this time 20 days out. The guy is full of crap. Nothing he says ever seems to add up. Politics might well be the job for him.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

CFH is right. Why do people have to keep ressurecting this issue?

A thread is started based on a link that isn't even in the English language and posters come out here disparaging Manny. Do you people even understand what is being said or did you just made the comments based on the title?

They talked about the blood test being REQUIRED of all professional boxers, and about it being obvious that Manny is not comfortable with the test. Manny explained in there why it's hard to have blood test taken near the fight, that he need strength, that if blood is taken it will weaken him and that it will take him 3 - 4 days to recover. He said it's okey to undergo the blood test as long as it's not near the fight date.

The "weaken me" excuse is absurd as anyone who has taken a blood test will tell you. A 14 day window was plenty of time before the fight too and Manny turned it down and here he is once again giving blood, but this time 20 days out. The guy is full of crap. Nothing he says ever seems to add up. Politics might well be the job for him.

It may be absurd to a number of people but there are some who truly believe it.

Here's a video from an interview of Manny taken sometime in 2005 after the first Erik Morales fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_97MccjZwV4

[skel1983]

CFH is right. Why do people have to keep ressurecting this issue?

A thread is started based on a link that isn't even in the English language and posters come out here disparaging Manny. Do you people even understand what is being said or did you just made the comments based on the title?

They talked about the blood test being REQUIRED of all professional boxers, and about it being obvious that Manny is not comfortable with the test. Manny explained in there why it's hard to have blood test taken near the fight, that he need strength, that if blood is taken it will weaken him and that it will take him 3 - 4 days to recover. He said it's okey to undergo the blood test as long as it's not near the fight date.

So why did he not take the fight with Floyd??

[Kirkland Laing]

These test don't test for PEDs and they're scheduled not random anyway. As far as getting blood goes I read that the Brazilian MMA champ Silva (?) gets a blood sample taken at the end of every sparring round when he's building up to a fight to check his lactic acid levels, which puts Pacneedle's refusal in perspective. And before all the testing thing blew up it would have been more like $60 million each, not $40 million. If they'd done 3 million PPVs at sixty dollars a pop that would have been $45 million each just from the PPV money without the gate, site fee, British PPV, foreign TV, sponsorship etc.

[rjj tszyu]

CFH is right. Why do people have to keep ressurecting this issue?

A thread is started based on a link that isn't even in the English language and posters come out here disparaging Manny. Do you people even understand what is being said or did you just made the comments based on the title?

They talked about the blood test being REQUIRED of all professional boxers, and about it being obvious that Manny is not comfortable with the test. Manny explained in there why it's hard to have blood test taken near the fight, that he need strength, that if blood is taken it will weaken him and that it will take him 3 - 4 days to recover. He said it's okey to undergo the blood test as long as it's not near the fight date.

So why did he not take the fight with Floyd??

Maybe he thinks he needs PED's for Floyd but not Clottey

Just a theory and I don't even believe it myself. I don't think Pac really juices but I have to say some of his behaviour is quite strange.

[djcione]

CFH is right. Why do people have to keep ressurecting this issue?

A thread is started based on a link that isn't even in the English language and posters come out here disparaging Manny. Do you people even understand what is being said or did you just made the comments based on the title?

They talked about the blood test being REQUIRED of all professional boxers, and about it being obvious that Manny is not comfortable with the test. Manny explained in there why it's hard to have blood test taken near the fight, that he need strength, that if blood is taken it will weaken him and that it will take him 3 - 4 days to recover. He said it's okey to undergo the blood test as long as it's not near the fight date.

So why did he not take the fight with Floyd??

not enough time to prepare for fight-Roach even came out and said that. Floyd presents a lot of problems 4 Manny; and he's not the typical slow, in your face, battle worn fighter that he's been feasting on since JMM 2. Counter punchers as skilled and as fast as Floyd clearly give MP trouble and Roach knows he needs more than 2 months.

Maybe, his mind is on the elections; needed a bit of time to rest from Cotto fight...waiting a bit may make the stakes bigger

[Themantonio]

This really shows that Pac never wanted the fight with Floyd. I hope it will happen, but i highly doubt it.

NO IT DOESN'T?!? It means Pac was happy to prove himself clean, just not on Myaweather's terms...

[killersheep]

This really shows that Pac never wanted the fight with Floyd. I hope it will happen, but i highly doubt it.

NO IT DOESN'T?!? It means Pac was happy to prove himself clean, just not on Myaweather's terms...

That is a ridiculous argument even if it is true. Furthermore, it is not what Pacquiao's team claimed was the reason.

[Nameless]

This really shows that Pac never wanted the fight with Floyd. I hope it will happen, but i highly doubt it.

NO IT DOESN'T?!? It means Pac was happy to prove himself clean, just not on Myaweather's terms...

in Pedsland 20 days is 2 times the eternity to juice yourself and to clean it afterward, if he would be really clean he could easily take some 10 days prior to the fight, especially as blood won't weakened for such small drops.