Pac having blood taken 20 days before the Clottey fight..

[InTheNeutralCorner]

CFH is right. Why do people have to keep ressurecting this issue?

A thread is started based on a link that isn't even in the English language and posters come out here disparaging Manny. Do you people even understand what is being said or did you just made the comments based on the title?

They talked about the blood test being REQUIRED of all professional boxers, and about it being obvious that Manny is not comfortable with the test. Manny explained in there why it's hard to have blood test taken near the fight, that he need strength, that if blood is taken it will weaken him and that it will take him 3 - 4 days to recover. He said it's okey to undergo the blood test as long as it's not near the fight date.

[Gandalf]

CFH is right. Why do people have to keep ressurecting this issue?

A thread is started based on a link that isn't even in the English language and posters come out here disparaging Manny. Do you people even understand what is being said or did you just made the comments based on the title?

They talked about the blood test being REQUIRED of all professional boxers, and about it being obvious that Manny is not comfortable with the test. Manny explained in there why it's hard to have blood test taken near the fight, that he need strength, that if blood is taken it will weaken him and that it will take him 3 - 4 days to recover. He said it's okey to undergo the blood test as long as it's not near the fight date.

The "weaken me" excuse is absurd as anyone who has taken a blood test will tell you. A 14 day window was plenty of time before the fight too and Manny turned it down and here he is once again giving blood, but this time 20 days out. The guy is full of crap. Nothing he says ever seems to add up. Politics might well be the job for him.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

CFH is right. Why do people have to keep ressurecting this issue?

A thread is started based on a link that isn't even in the English language and posters come out here disparaging Manny. Do you people even understand what is being said or did you just made the comments based on the title?

They talked about the blood test being REQUIRED of all professional boxers, and about it being obvious that Manny is not comfortable with the test. Manny explained in there why it's hard to have blood test taken near the fight, that he need strength, that if blood is taken it will weaken him and that it will take him 3 - 4 days to recover. He said it's okey to undergo the blood test as long as it's not near the fight date.

The "weaken me" excuse is absurd as anyone who has taken a blood test will tell you. A 14 day window was plenty of time before the fight too and Manny turned it down and here he is once again giving blood, but this time 20 days out. The guy is full of crap. Nothing he says ever seems to add up. Politics might well be the job for him.

It may be absurd to a number of people but there are some who truly believe it.

Here's a video from an interview of Manny taken sometime in 2005 after the first Erik Morales fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_97MccjZwV4

[knodaledge]

CFH is right. Why do people have to keep ressurecting this issue?

A thread is started based on a link that isn't even in the English language and posters come out here disparaging Manny. Do you people even understand what is being said or did you just made the comments based on the title?

They talked about the blood test being REQUIRED of all professional boxers, and about it being obvious that Manny is not comfortable with the test. Manny explained in there why it's hard to have blood test taken near the fight, that he need strength, that if blood is taken it will weaken him and that it will take him 3 - 4 days to recover. He said it's okey to undergo the blood test as long as it's not near the fight date.

The "weaken me" excuse is absurd as anyone who has taken a blood test will tell you. A 14 day window was plenty of time before the fight too and Manny turned it down and here he is once again giving blood, but this time 20 days out. The guy is full of crap. Nothing he says ever seems to add up. Politics might well be the job for him.

It may be absurd to a number of people but there are some who truly believe it.

Here's a video from an interview of Manny taken sometime in 2005 after the first Erik Morales fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_97MccjZwV4

But to be fair, in regards to the video, he did lose that fight. What do you expect him to say?

Pacquiao & his people have a history of relying on excuses after they don't get the outcome they wanted. Remember the "wrong kind of socks" fiasco after the first JMM fight?

I'm not saying it didn't make him weak & that was the reason he lost the fight to Morales. I'm just raising the question would he have said all this if he had won that fight? Would the blood tests have been an issue if he had won?

[InTheNeutralCorner]

The "weaken me" excuse is absurd as anyone who has taken a blood test will tell you. A 14 day window was plenty of time before the fight too and Manny turned it down and here he is once again giving blood, but this time 20 days out. The guy is full of crap. Nothing he says ever seems to add up. Politics might well be the job for him.

It may be absurd to a number of people but there are some who truly believe it.

Here's a video from an interview of Manny taken sometime in 2005 after the first Erik Morales fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_97MccjZwV4

But to be fair, in regards to the video, he did lose that fight. What do you expect him to say?

Pacquiao & his people have a history of relying on excuses after they don't get the outcome they wanted. Remember the "wrong kind of socks" fiasco after the first JMM fight?

I'm not saying it didn't make him weak & that was the reason he lost the fight to Morales. I'm just raising the question would he have said all this if he had won that fight? Would the blood tests have been an issue if he had won?

Your statement implies the possibility that it may have made him weak. That is what I was trying to say in this forum all along, that there are a lot of speculations and possibilities with regards to the Pacquiao-Mayweather fiasco nor in any other fights. As boxing fans, we owe it to the boxers to at least give them the benefit of the doubt in the absence of credible evidence. They put their lives at risk for our entertainment. (I will jump ahead of myself and comment on those thinking that they get paid millions anyway. A select few of them do but they deserved it. However, they all started from the bottom.).

This forum will be a harmonious place if we just all agree. But then again, it will also make it boring.

I rest my case.

[killersheep]

It may be absurd to a number of people but there are some who truly believe it.

Here's a video from an interview of Manny taken sometime in 2005 after the first Erik Morales fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_97MccjZwV4

But to be fair, in regards to the video, he did lose that fight. What do you expect him to say?

Pacquiao & his people have a history of relying on excuses after they don't get the outcome they wanted. Remember the "wrong kind of socks" fiasco after the first JMM fight?

I'm not saying it didn't make him weak & that was the reason he lost the fight to Morales. I'm just raising the question would he have said all this if he had won that fight? Would the blood tests have been an issue if he had won?

Your statement implies the possibility that it may have made him weak. That is what I was trying to say in this forum all along, that there are a lot of speculations and possibilities with regards to the Pacquiao-Mayweather fiasco nor in any other fights. As boxing fans, we owe it to the boxers to at least give them the benefit of the doubt in the absence of credible evidence. They put their lives at risk for our entertainment. (I will jump ahead of myself and comment on those thinking that they get paid millions anyway. A select few of them do but they deserved it. However, they all started from the bottom.).

This forum will be a harmonious place if we just all agree. But then again, it will also make it boring.

I rest my case.

That case and the test he just had for Clottey are more invasive than the one Mayweather was requiring. And by saying there is a possibility it weakened him you must also admit there is a possibility it didn't and Morales was simply in fact the better man that night.

Damit I didn't mean to get sucked back into this, disregard..............

[InTheNeutralCorner]

But to be fair, in regards to the video, he did lose that fight. What do you expect him to say?

Pacquiao & his people have a history of relying on excuses after they don't get the outcome they wanted. Remember the "wrong kind of socks" fiasco after the first JMM fight?

I'm not saying it didn't make him weak & that was the reason he lost the fight to Morales. I'm just raising the question would he have said all this if he had won that fight? Would the blood tests have been an issue if he had won?

Your statement implies the possibility that it may have made him weak. That is what I was trying to say in this forum all along, that there are a lot of speculations and possibilities with regards to the Pacquiao-Mayweather fiasco nor in any other fights. As boxing fans, we owe it to the boxers to at least give them the benefit of the doubt in the absence of credible evidence. They put their lives at risk for our entertainment. (I will jump ahead of myself and comment on those thinking that they get paid millions anyway. A select few of them do but they deserved it. However, they all started from the bottom.).

This forum will be a harmonious place if we just all agree. But then again, it will also make it boring.

I rest my case.

That case and the test he just had for Clottey are more invasive than the one Mayweather was requiring. And by saying there is a possibility it weakened him you must also admit there is a possibility it didn't and Morales was simply in fact the better man that night.

Damit I didn't mean to get sucked back into this, disregard..............

For me, Morales was the better man that night. I highlighted that statement to consider the possibility that the 'weaken me' excuse for the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight may actually be valid (even though it may be erroneous).

Damit also, I already said that I rest my case .............

[skel1983]

CFH is right. Why do people have to keep ressurecting this issue?

A thread is started based on a link that isn't even in the English language and posters come out here disparaging Manny. Do you people even understand what is being said or did you just made the comments based on the title?

They talked about the blood test being REQUIRED of all professional boxers, and about it being obvious that Manny is not comfortable with the test. Manny explained in there why it's hard to have blood test taken near the fight, that he need strength, that if blood is taken it will weaken him and that it will take him 3 - 4 days to recover. He said it's okey to undergo the blood test as long as it's not near the fight date.

So why did he not take the fight with Floyd??

[Kirkland Laing]

These test don't test for PEDs and they're scheduled not random anyway. As far as getting blood goes I read that the Brazilian MMA champ Silva (?) gets a blood sample taken at the end of every sparring round when he's building up to a fight to check his lactic acid levels, which puts Pacneedle's refusal in perspective. And before all the testing thing blew up it would have been more like $60 million each, not $40 million. If they'd done 3 million PPVs at sixty dollars a pop that would have been $45 million each just from the PPV money without the gate, site fee, British PPV, foreign TV, sponsorship etc.

[amat]

Manny looks a little bloated there there isn't the usual crazy definition in his midsection. As far as the blood test, nothing surprising everyone knew the excuses Roach gave were bullshit anyways. He was just protecting his fighter with that I don't think anybody believed it.

[rjj tszyu]

CFH is right. Why do people have to keep ressurecting this issue?

A thread is started based on a link that isn't even in the English language and posters come out here disparaging Manny. Do you people even understand what is being said or did you just made the comments based on the title?

They talked about the blood test being REQUIRED of all professional boxers, and about it being obvious that Manny is not comfortable with the test. Manny explained in there why it's hard to have blood test taken near the fight, that he need strength, that if blood is taken it will weaken him and that it will take him 3 - 4 days to recover. He said it's okey to undergo the blood test as long as it's not near the fight date.

So why did he not take the fight with Floyd??

Maybe he thinks he needs PED's for Floyd but not Clottey

Just a theory and I don't even believe it myself. I don't think Pac really juices but I have to say some of his behaviour is quite strange.

[djcione]

CFH is right. Why do people have to keep ressurecting this issue?

A thread is started based on a link that isn't even in the English language and posters come out here disparaging Manny. Do you people even understand what is being said or did you just made the comments based on the title?

They talked about the blood test being REQUIRED of all professional boxers, and about it being obvious that Manny is not comfortable with the test. Manny explained in there why it's hard to have blood test taken near the fight, that he need strength, that if blood is taken it will weaken him and that it will take him 3 - 4 days to recover. He said it's okey to undergo the blood test as long as it's not near the fight date.

So why did he not take the fight with Floyd??

not enough time to prepare for fight-Roach even came out and said that. Floyd presents a lot of problems 4 Manny; and he's not the typical slow, in your face, battle worn fighter that he's been feasting on since JMM 2. Counter punchers as skilled and as fast as Floyd clearly give MP trouble and Roach knows he needs more than 2 months.

Maybe, his mind is on the elections; needed a bit of time to rest from Cotto fight...waiting a bit may make the stakes bigger