Has Manny Paquiao's reputation taken a serious hit as a result of recent goings on?

[Gandalf]

I like polls so make sure you get your votes in. BTW, Mossad members are not allowed to vote because they are not very nice people.

[generalbulldog]

Nah, not really. People are just pissed that the FLoyd fight was off, I'm pretty sure it would die down.

Holyfield was more than likely on PEDs when he whipped Tyson's ass, but people still love him. Roy Jones failed a drug test but in a recent thread he got nothing but love from the people and every other boxing forum I've been too.

Shane Mosley was connected to Balco and admitted to using PEDs, and yet he still has a load of fans including this forum hoping that he will beat Floyd.

Then there's Trinidad who tried to load up his gloves/wraps in the Hopkins fight but he still has fans, even the ones on here.

[mnmc10]

im pretty much disgusted that pac refused pbf's terms, he shouldve taken the tests.

but here in the philippines it didnt affected pacs stature. oh yes not at all! people here think that pbf made too many excuses and thought the if pbf really wanted it then he should accept whatever pac presented on the table.

i also saw in the news that even foreign fans still line up to meet pac. its as if nothing happened!

even here in saddo im surprised that a lot still defends pac. yes its been mentioned a million times that pac is a cheat thanks to the haters ofcourse. but to most all are just allegations. and to some(like 4 forumers) pac is already guilty.

[amat]

Trinidad did not try to load his gloves up, at least not in the same sense as Margarito. Naazim Richardson clarified it himself, it was just a different method of wrapping that wasn't approved here.

Anyways, Sugar Ray Leonard was a cokehead and that was in the public, and his reputation didn't take a serious long term hit, Pacquiao will be fine. In the present though, his approval numbers would definitely be down if he had them.

[ross]

I was neutral on Floyd and Manny before hand, in fact if you check my history youll see iv "hated" on Floyd

So I have absolutely no bias towards Floyd but manny has made himself look a cuunt!!

I hate the little turd now, the only people defending him are Phillipino because hes their hero but even then they are doing it blindly knowing or thinking deep down why he was so against random blood testing.

Hes just done it for Clottey but 20 days out, whos to say he hasnt taken something the very next day?

Thats why he was so against randoms because he wouldnt be able to do that

[Gandalf]

I was neutral on Floyd and Manny before hand, in fact if you check my history youll see iv "hated" on Floyd

So I have absolutely no bias towards Floyd but manny has made himself look a cuunt!!

I hate the little turd now, the only people defending him are Phillipino because hes their hero but even then they are doing it blindly knowing or thinking deep down why he was so against random blood testing.

Hes just done it for Clottey but 20 days out, whos to say he hasnt taken something the very next day?

Thats why he was so against randoms because he wouldnt be able to do that

If having a dislike of both fighters can be classed as neutral then I guess I was pretty neutral. After the Cotto fight I really did say to hell with it and decided I would even support him against Floyd, but after this whole debacle I have gone the other way. I hold Manny with deep suspicion and don't trust anything that comes out of his camp because of the appalling inconsistency and contradictions.

There is no doubt in my eyes that he has fallen, but I was curious to know where others were at, whence the thread.

[Bomp]

I was neutral on Floyd and Manny before hand, in fact if you check my history youll see iv "hated" on Floyd

So I have absolutely no bias towards Floyd but manny has made himself look a cuunt!!

I hate the little turd now, the only people defending him are Phillipino because hes their hero but even then they are doing it blindly knowing or thinking deep down why he was so against random blood testing.

Hes just done it for Clottey but 20 days out, whos to say he hasnt taken something the very next day?

Thats why he was so against randoms because he wouldnt be able to do that

If having a dislike of both fighters can be classed as neutral then I guess I was pretty neutral. After the Cotto fight I really did say to hell with it and decided I would even support him against Floyd, but after this whole debacle I have gone the other way. I hold Manny with deep suspicion and don't trust anything that comes out of his camp because of the appalling inconsistency and contradictions.

There is no doubt in my eyes that he has fallen, but I was curious to know where others were at, whence the thread.

It's undoubtedly taken a hit in the short term, to early to tell long term. Whether it SHOULD or not is a matter of opinion. Generalbulldogs list of other fighters is one reason why I dont think he should, another reason is who the hell knows how many are on PEDs, could be talking about a massive majority due to poor testing, hell even with random tests Marion Jones flew past hundreds with flying colours, hence I dont see why any fighter's entire career should be discredited so handily.

On the bolded part I'd argue his camp have always been like that on any issue, signing with Golden boy for example and the crazy entourage he has on 24/7, not even Roach seems to get any sense out of them.

[Lance Uppercut]

Passing up 40 million dollars in order to avoid being tested for PEDs; I think this will hurt his legacy.

[blegit]

Trinidad did not try to load his gloves up, at least not in the same sense as Margarito. Naazim Richardson clarified it himself, it was just a different method of wrapping that wasn't approved here.

Anyways, Sugar Ray Leonard was a cokehead and that was in the public, and his reputation didn't take a serious long term hit, Pacquiao will be fine. In the present though, his approval numbers would definitely be down if he had them.

Yeah, if I recall correctly Trinidad tried to put tape directly on his skin in his palm. Basically he was trying to put excess tape under his gauze. This makes for a harder fist. Its like holding something and making a fist. Its against the rules but its not what you think of as loading.