scots racist against english?

[ono]

What a load of nonsense. If someone wants to make a stupid t-shirt backing against England then so be it. It's just what the Scots do. I have a Scotish friend who always backs against England, but that's just part and parcel of who he is. Why would you get irate about it? Nobody is getting hurt and it's just a sport at the end of the day. The police have no business getting involved in the first place, they would be much better suited trying to catch the hordes of drug dealers.

There is too much political correctness in the UK from what I read in the media and it seems you can't even make a tongue in cheek joke anymore without people getting up in arms and calling you sexist, racist or whatever the latest -ist word is this week. It's all a bit sad really.

That's what I've read too. Is it true that you guys can't say Merry Christmas because it may offend other groups? I'm not a religious guy, hell I don't even believe in any religion but I do like the secular aspect of Christmas and just use it to greet people during that time of the year. I just find it odd since the UK is a majority Protestant nation.

TBH I really have no idea what is acceptable or not anymore. I've only spent a few weeks in the UK in the past seven plus years. I had heard about the Merry Christmas thing too, but surely people are still saying Merry Christmas. They do pretty much everywhere else in the world!

The UK seems to have turned a bit strange really having become a rather tedious and pointless nanny state where you cannot speak in fear of upsetting other people. Maybe that's an exaggeration, I don't know. I will be going home for a holiday in the summer, so I will be able to see for myself how bad it's become. Surely, it's just the media that makes it seem so ridiculous.

It's the media.

[ryanman]

That's what I've read too. Is it true that you guys can't say Merry Christmas because it may offend other groups? I'm not a religious guy, hell I don't even believe in any religion but I do like the secular aspect of Christmas and just use it to greet people during that time of the year. I just find it odd since the UK is a majority Protestant nation.

TBH I really have no idea what is acceptable or not anymore. I've only spent a few weeks in the UK in the past seven plus years. I had heard about the Merry Christmas thing too, but surely people are still saying Merry Christmas. They do pretty much everywhere else in the world!

The UK seems to have turned a bit strange really having become a rather tedious and pointless nanny state where you cannot speak in fear of upsetting other people. Maybe that's an exaggeration, I don't know. I will be going home for a holiday in the summer, so I will be able to see for myself how bad it's become. Surely, it's just the media that makes it seem so ridiculous.

It's the media.

Yep.
I can say 'merry christmas' whenever i want.
Merry Christmas!!
Hold on...someones knocking at the door...

[ono]

TBH I really have no idea what is acceptable or not anymore. I've only spent a few weeks in the UK in the past seven plus years. I had heard about the Merry Christmas thing too, but surely people are still saying Merry Christmas. They do pretty much everywhere else in the world!

The UK seems to have turned a bit strange really having become a rather tedious and pointless nanny state where you cannot speak in fear of upsetting other people. Maybe that's an exaggeration, I don't know. I will be going home for a holiday in the summer, so I will be able to see for myself how bad it's become. Surely, it's just the media that makes it seem so ridiculous.

It's the media.

Yep.
I can say 'merry christmas' whenever i want.
Merry Christmas!!
Hold on...someones knocking at the door...

Lol

[HattonTheHammer]

Absoloutely cringeworthy story

The scots dont like the english - someone in inner mongolia would be able to tell you that.

We are there as per usual and as per usual they arent. Thats more than enough satisfaction for me

[Gandalf]

That's what I've read too. Is it true that you guys can't say Merry Christmas because it may offend other groups? I'm not a religious guy, hell I don't even believe in any religion but I do like the secular aspect of Christmas and just use it to greet people during that time of the year. I just find it odd since the UK is a majority Protestant nation.

TBH I really have no idea what is acceptable or not anymore. I've only spent a few weeks in the UK in the past seven plus years. I had heard about the Merry Christmas thing too, but surely people are still saying Merry Christmas. They do pretty much everywhere else in the world!

The UK seems to have turned a bit strange really having become a rather tedious and pointless nanny state where you cannot speak in fear of upsetting other people. Maybe that's an exaggeration, I don't know. I will be going home for a holiday in the summer, so I will be able to see for myself how bad it's become. Surely, it's just the media that makes it seem so ridiculous.

It's the media.

Political correctness is just so gay.

I only heard the expression "a person of colour" quite recently on TV and thought it quite bizarre. What's wrong with calling a dark skinned person "black"? Maybe I'm old fashioned, but a spade is a spade. Language is an odd thing and I just don't see the point in getting so worked up about it. Some words will insult, but it's down to the individual to decide how they express themselves. You can't be dictated from above on how to use language. If a man wants to wear a T-Shirt with "Bugger the Queen" on the front, I really don't see the problem. It could say "Bugger miles" and I would still say fair enough. Not that I want to be buggered mind.

[Drago]

yeah all seems a bit pathetic to me!

[ono]

TBH I really have no idea what is acceptable or not anymore. I've only spent a few weeks in the UK in the past seven plus years. I had heard about the Merry Christmas thing too, but surely people are still saying Merry Christmas. They do pretty much everywhere else in the world!

The UK seems to have turned a bit strange really having become a rather tedious and pointless nanny state where you cannot speak in fear of upsetting other people. Maybe that's an exaggeration, I don't know. I will be going home for a holiday in the summer, so I will be able to see for myself how bad it's become. Surely, it's just the media that makes it seem so ridiculous.

It's the media.

Political correctness is just so gay.

I only heard the expression "a person of colour" quite recently on TV and thought it quite bizarre. What's wrong with calling a dark skinned person "black"? Maybe I'm old fashioned, but a spade is a spade. Language is an odd thing and I just don't see the point in getting so worked up about it. Some words will insult, but it's down to the individual to decide how they express themselves. You can't be dictated from above on how to use language. If a man wants to wear a T-Shirt with "Bugger the Queen" on the front, I really don't see the problem. It could say "Bugger miles" and I would still say fair enough. Not that I want to be buggered mind.

I agree to an extent but some form of political correctness is required imo.
For example Hatton the Hammer might believe that Bernard Manning telling a joke about a black man is ok because it's funny and harmless, wheras somebody else might take offence to it.

Choosing to take offence over something and being offended are two different things, and claiming to be offended when in effect you aren't, isn't right. But it's also not right to decide that something isn't offensive, just because you don't find it to be so.

[Mark TKO]

if they want to make these t shirts then yes - who really gives a fuck ? Hardly consider it racist. Is it any different to local rivalry eg Man U \ Man City , Rangers \ Celtic etc...

I used to back them and the Irish in tournaments till mid 90s when I realised how much they hated us and wanted us to lose to anyone we played. Since then fuck 'em I hope everyone beats them - they usually do.

When Andy Murray made his comments about having a Paraguay shirt last world cup I would have respected him more if he had come out and said "of course I don't want England to win I'm Scottish" rather than trying to cover it over saying he didn't really mean it.

We know they don't want us to win - we don't care !