Quote Originally Posted by mnmc10 View Post
hornfinger,

you hate pac so your opinions and views are different, to you he lost both fights with jmm but to many and most importantly on his record he beat him.

to you hatton and cotto are beat up wasted talents that anyone can cherry pick. well guess what? MOST doesnt think the same.

he dodged the ped test yes, is he automatically guilty of using? no!

you hate pac what can we do? one things for sure,

pac doesnt need to please YOU anyway!
Any intelligent person can see that Manny didn't win either of his fights with Marquez. The win on the record doesn't mean more than the fight most fans saw with their own eyes and boxing writers too for that matter.

I will agree with you to an extent on Hatton and Cotto, though it is true to say they did come in on rather heavy losses.

He definitely did duck the PED test and on that basis alone, and supposedly as a sportsman of the highest level willing to prove himself clean....he failed big time.

As for Pac not needing to please the fans. Well, I would argue that he has shown that he really couldn't give a shit either way. He has shown that by refusing the fight of a generation over a blood test.

You used the word "We" and that really indicates some kind of mass produced cyborg Pac hugger clone army at work. It's hilarious, but also quite sad too. Oh, but Manny doesn't need to please you! WTF?