James Toney signs multi fight deal with the UFC

[HattonTheHammer]

This is awful news, I'm very disappointed in Dana.

Apart from Kimbo, I cant think of another Heavyweight or Light-Heavyweight within the UFC that isnt going to take Toney down and beat the shit out of him. Kimbo would be a joke match-up as well, he's a back-street brawler with limited MMA skills, who favours standing. Toney would murder him, their stand-up skillsets are obviously light years apart.

I really wish they wouldnt mix these two sports. They are both completely different ball games. I have always liked James Toney as a BOXER, as an MMA fighter it's just plain ridiculous. And Toney is completely naive if he thinks just because he has world class hands he can live with these multi-dimentional athletes.

The thing is, Dana has always been a huge boxing fan, I think he has sold out here again in the hope of using Toneys name to lift the name of the UFC. Cheap shot. And I'm a big Dana White fan.

The day vitali klitschko enters the ring in spandex shorts and starts dry humping his opponent is the very day i call time on watching this sport!!

[Hornfinger]

I dunno man, yeah it's easy to say Toney's going to suck, but it all depends on how he trains, who trains him etc etc.

Toney fighting in UFC and doing alright for himself is just as rediculous as saying Mosely has a chance against Floyd.

you never fully know whats going to happen till they get in the ring and do it.

I'm going to reserve judgement....

[HattonTheHammer]

I dunno man, yeah it's easy to say Toney's going to suck, but it all depends on how he trains, who trains him etc etc.

Toney fighting in UFC and doing alright for himself is just as rediculous as saying Mosely has a chance against Floyd.

you never fully know whats going to happen till they get in the ring and do it.

I'm going to reserve judgement....

mayorga...toney

no doubt white will put the spin on this and tell all that boxers are now joining the revolution completely ignoring the fact both guys peaked years ago

once they are inevitably both knocked out white will again claim victory in that it`ll somehow prove how martial arts is the superior sport

[rjj tszyu]

I dunno man, yeah it's easy to say Toney's going to suck, but it all depends on how he trains, who trains him etc etc.

Toney fighting in UFC and doing alright for himself is just as rediculous as saying Mosely has a chance against Floyd.

you never fully know whats going to happen till they get in the ring and do it.

I'm going to reserve judgement....

mayorga...toney

no doubt white will put the spin on this and tell all that boxers are now joining the revolution completely ignoring the fact both guys peaked years ago

once they are inevitably both knocked out white will again claim victory in that it`ll somehow prove how martial arts is the superior sport

That's his plan! Otherwise he'd be trying to get someone with really good wheels who could circle away from all the takedowns and clinches and could fire lighning bolts everytime the opponent comes forward with that gay stance from the outside thus ending with the MMA guy unconcious. But no he'll just go for stand still and roll the shoulders James Toney. White is a tosser who pretends he like boxing, the guy doesn't even know Juan Manuel Marquez's name. How is that a boxing fan??

[HattonTheHammer]

I dunno man, yeah it's easy to say Toney's going to suck, but it all depends on how he trains, who trains him etc etc.

Toney fighting in UFC and doing alright for himself is just as rediculous as saying Mosely has a chance against Floyd.

you never fully know whats going to happen till they get in the ring and do it.

I'm going to reserve judgement....

mayorga...toney

no doubt white will put the spin on this and tell all that boxers are now joining the revolution completely ignoring the fact both guys peaked years ago

once they are inevitably both knocked out white will again claim victory in that it`ll somehow prove how martial arts is the superior sport

That's his plan! Otherwise he'd be trying to get someone with really good wheels who could circle away from all the takedowns and clinches and could fire lighning bolts everytime the opponent comes forward with that gay stance from the outside thus ending with the MMA guy unconcious. But no he'll just go for stand still and roll the shoulders James Toney. White is a tosser who pretends he like boxing, the guy doesn't even know Juan Manuel Marquez's name. How is that a boxing fan??

It kills me when UFC fans state how theyre sport is superior because you can work the legs etc

The sport is essentially full of guys who failed to make it as a boxer hence the reason they do this sport. What the fuck do you think would happen to brock lesnar if he ever got in the ring with a klitschko or if couture fought calzaghe.

Every single UFC fighter of note at some point has dreamed of being a boxer because this is still the millionaire making sport. If you offered mayweather, mosley, pacquiao $70,000 dollars for a fight they`d laugh at you in the face. Ive no probs with dana white trying to compete and lets face it he does a far superior job of promoting UFC than anything boxing can possibly offer.

But this whole mixed martial arts is the superior sport thing has got to stop. Just ask couture, silva etc if theyve ever tried to become a boxer and whether they honestly believe they could go toe to toe with a second or 3rd rate fighter and not get banged out within 20seconds

[rjj tszyu]

mayorga...toney

no doubt white will put the spin on this and tell all that boxers are now joining the revolution completely ignoring the fact both guys peaked years ago

once they are inevitably both knocked out white will again claim victory in that it`ll somehow prove how martial arts is the superior sport

That's his plan! Otherwise he'd be trying to get someone with really good wheels who could circle away from all the takedowns and clinches and could fire lighning bolts everytime the opponent comes forward with that gay stance from the outside thus ending with the MMA guy unconcious. But no he'll just go for stand still and roll the shoulders James Toney. White is a tosser who pretends he like boxing, the guy doesn't even know Juan Manuel Marquez's name. How is that a boxing fan??

It kills me when UFC fans state how theyre sport is superior because you can work the legs etc

The sport is essentially full of guys who failed to make it as a boxer hence the reason they do this sport. What the fuck do you think would happen to brock lesnar if he ever got in the ring with a klitschko or if couture fought calzaghe.

Every single UFC fighter of note at some point has dreamed of being a boxer because this is still the millionaire making sport. If you offered mayweather, mosley, pacquiao $70,000 dollars for a fight they`d laugh at you in the face. Ive no probs with dana white trying to compete and lets face it he does a far superior job of promoting UFC than anything boxing can possibly offer.

But this whole mixed martial arts is the superior sport thing has got to stop. Just ask couture, silva etc if theyve ever tried to become a boxer and whether they honestly believe they could go toe to toe with a second or 3rd rate fighter and not get banged out within 20seconds

Exactly. Anderson Silva found out the hard way when he tried boxing!

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Jack of all trades, master of.....

[Jimmy G-Force]

mayorga...toney

no doubt white will put the spin on this and tell all that boxers are now joining the revolution completely ignoring the fact both guys peaked years ago

once they are inevitably both knocked out white will again claim victory in that it`ll somehow prove how martial arts is the superior sport

That's his plan! Otherwise he'd be trying to get someone with really good wheels who could circle away from all the takedowns and clinches and could fire lighning bolts everytime the opponent comes forward with that gay stance from the outside thus ending with the MMA guy unconcious. But no he'll just go for stand still and roll the shoulders James Toney. White is a tosser who pretends he like boxing, the guy doesn't even know Juan Manuel Marquez's name. How is that a boxing fan??

It kills me when UFC fans state how theyre sport is superior because you can work the legs etc

The sport is essentially full of guys who failed to make it as a boxer hence the reason they do this sport.What the fuck do you think would happen to brock lesnar if he ever got in the ring with a klitschko or if couture fought calzaghe.

Every single UFC fighter of note at some point has dreamed of being a boxer because this is still the millionaire making sport. If you offered mayweather, mosley, pacquiao $70,000 dollars for a fight they`d laugh at you in the face. Ive no probs with dana white trying to compete and lets face it he does a far superior job of promoting UFC than anything boxing can possibly offer.

But this whole mixed martial arts is the superior sport thing has got to stop. Just ask couture, silva etc if theyve ever tried to become a boxer and whether they honestly believe they could go toe to toe with a second or 3rd rate fighter and not get banged out within 20seconds

Lol, your ignorance holds no boundries.

For the record, an MMA fighter is a far more dangerous proposition to face than a boxer. These guys arent boxers, they are martial artists, and now multi-dimentional. Of course they dont have the striking abilities of boxers, but they can punch, they can kick, they wrestle, they can grapple, they can submit. They can basically kick ass in every area possible.

Go and Youtube Cain Valesquez's recent KO of Nogueria at UFC 110 and tell me that 3 punch combination wasnt beautifully tight, crisp and short. And this is from a guy who excels in wrestling and smashing your face in once he gets you to the ground. It was very impressive indeed.

[Hornfinger]

I'm yet to see any UFC fighter with anywhere close to half decent boxing skills.

It's not hard to look like a good puncher when you're Ko'ing a guy with with even worse skill.

[HattonTheHammer]

That's his plan! Otherwise he'd be trying to get someone with really good wheels who could circle away from all the takedowns and clinches and could fire lighning bolts everytime the opponent comes forward with that gay stance from the outside thus ending with the MMA guy unconcious. But no he'll just go for stand still and roll the shoulders James Toney. White is a tosser who pretends he like boxing, the guy doesn't even know Juan Manuel Marquez's name. How is that a boxing fan??

It kills me when UFC fans state how theyre sport is superior because you can work the legs etc

The sport is essentially full of guys who failed to make it as a boxer hence the reason they do this sport.What the fuck do you think would happen to brock lesnar if he ever got in the ring with a klitschko or if couture fought calzaghe.

Every single UFC fighter of note at some point has dreamed of being a boxer because this is still the millionaire making sport. If you offered mayweather, mosley, pacquiao $70,000 dollars for a fight they`d laugh at you in the face. Ive no probs with dana white trying to compete and lets face it he does a far superior job of promoting UFC than anything boxing can possibly offer.

But this whole mixed martial arts is the superior sport thing has got to stop. Just ask couture, silva etc if theyve ever tried to become a boxer and whether they honestly believe they could go toe to toe with a second or 3rd rate fighter and not get banged out within 20seconds

Lol, your ignorance holds no boundries.

For the record, an MMA fighter is a far more dangerous proposition to face than a boxer. These guys arent boxers, they are martial artists, and now multi-dimentional. Of course they dont have the striking abilities of boxers, but they can punch, they can kick, they wrestle, they can grapple, they can submit. They can basically kick ass in every area possible.

Go and Youtube Cain Valesquez's recent KO of Nogueria at UFC 110 and tell me that 3 punch combination wasnt beautifully tight, crisp and short. And this is from a guy who excels in wrestling and smashing your face in once he gets you to the ground. It was very impressive indeed.

If you swapped the pay of both sports and mixed martial artists were earning millions of dollars dont you think the likes of floyd mayweather and bernard hopkins wouldnt just jump over to that?

And if they did they would no doubt own every single division and once agan the white frat boys who cant take getting beat f*ck out of would simply devise ANOTHER contact sport that they could get their shoe in.

Tell floyd mayweather that randy couture is a better allround athlete. floyd wouldnt give 2 shits he`d merely compare both mens bank balances and that would be the end of the story. UFC fighters arent idiots, they all know they could potentially make millions in the sport of boxing but the difference being our sport is full to the brim with world quality operators wanting those million dollar paydays while UFC is an expanding franchise full of young untapped talent that simply played the numbers game and realised theyd be better keeping to a safe little payday fighting guys with 21-4 rather than compete in a sport with hundreds of world class athletes.

Randy Couture fights guys with records of 18-4, in boxing that record wouldnt even get you on the card as a filler fight let alone a main eventer!!

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Go and Youtube Cain Valesquez's recent KO of Nogueria at UFC 110 and tell me that 3 punch combination wasnt beautifully tight, crisp and short. And this is from a guy who excels in wrestling and smashing your face in once he gets you to the ground. It was very impressive indeed.

Jeeeezus... I could hang my washing out on that chin... No wonder he got knocked the fuck out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg8su_YjT0s

[TheMacMagician]

I'm actually quite intrigued to see how Toney performs in this. I listened to a really interesting interview with, I think his Step Father of about 15 - 16 years. He was a mixed martial arts expert for years fighting in all kinds off rough places. The link is below. I think James Toney might be a little better equipped for UFC than people are giving him credit for......

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I dunno man, yeah it's easy to say Toney's going to suck, but it all depends on how he trains, who trains him etc etc.

Toney fighting in UFC and doing alright for himself is just as rediculous as saying Mosely has a chance against Floyd.

you never fully know whats going to happen till they get in the ring and do it.

I'm going to reserve judgement....

Seriously, check out the interview with Toney's Step Dad if anyone doubts or is interested how he is being trained. Its quite an insight.... I think he's been in training for a while too....

[DaxxKahn]

I dunno man, yeah it's easy to say Toney's going to suck, but it all depends on how he trains, who trains him etc etc.

Toney fighting in UFC and doing alright for himself is just as rediculous as saying Mosely has a chance against Floyd.

you never fully know whats going to happen till they get in the ring and do it.

I'm going to reserve judgement....

I know that Toney is working out in the same Gym as Audley Harrison in CA and very reliable sources say Toney is down to 200 lbs and is serious about this all.......


And you are right the idea of Toney doing well in MMA and Mosley beating Mayweather is Rediculous...........But Mosley beating Mayweather is far from Ridiculous

[Hornfinger]

I dunno man, yeah it's easy to say Toney's going to suck, but it all depends on how he trains, who trains him etc etc.

Toney fighting in UFC and doing alright for himself is just as rediculous as saying Mosely has a chance against Floyd.

you never fully know whats going to happen till they get in the ring and do it.

I'm going to reserve judgement....

But Mosley beating Mayweather is far from Ridiculous

Not in my world. An old man who's been out the ring for 18 months and only had one decent fight in 6 years ain't going to KO the pound for pound best fighter on the planet.

[DaxxKahn]

I dunno man, yeah it's easy to say Toney's going to suck, but it all depends on how he trains, who trains him etc etc.

Toney fighting in UFC and doing alright for himself is just as rediculous as saying Mosely has a chance against Floyd.

you never fully know whats going to happen till they get in the ring and do it.

I'm going to reserve judgement....

But Mosley beating Mayweather is far from Ridiculous

Not in my world. An old man who's been out the ring for 18 months and only had one decent fight in 6 years ain't going to KO the pound for pound best fighter on the planet.

One decent fight in 6 years?...Well lets put them side by side shall we...

PBF since 2003 he has faced...N'Dou, Corley, Bruseles, Gatti, Mitchell, Judah, Baldom ir, DLH, Hatton and JMM

N'Dou and Bruseles are B fighters even in their primes, Corley and Mitchell waaay past it when PBF fought them, JMM much much smaller then PBF and past his best days as we all seen in the Diaz fight...Gatti too easy to hit and the DLH fight was close......Judah was on a meltdown losing to Baldomir before they fought and Hatton again smaller and all offense...The DLH fight was close and in no way did Floyd dominate..

Mosley since 2003 has faced...DLH when DLH was DLH, Winky Wright 2X when Wright was the most avoided fighter from 147-168, Estrada and Cruz though not world class certainly at the time top prospects, 2 beatdown of Vargas who was on a 4 fight win streak and one of the 154lb best at the time pretty much nailing Vargas career shut, Collazo who is tough for anyone, Gave Cotto a good run when Cotto was considered one of the sports best and undefeated, Mayorga who was past his best and had been away from the 147 lb division a while and the destruction of the man many people thought to have an Iron chin in Margarito

So to say Mosley has only had 1 decent or meaningful fight in 6 years is silly...in fact though Mosley may have lost a few in the last 6yrs he has fought better opp and men bigger then him